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Townsend94 22 February 2017 07:20 AM

Rotating the inlet manifold
 
Does rotating the inlet manifold make any difference to performance or is it really just looks better and make the bay look a little more tidy?

JDM_Stig 22 February 2017 07:29 AM

less pipework, less lag.

stonejedi 22 February 2017 07:46 AM


Originally Posted by Townsend94 (Post 11921263)
Does rotating the inlet manifold make any difference to performance or is it really just looks better and make the bay look a little more tidy?

Less pipework and to some looks better:cool:,but I don't really subscribe to the less lag....I have run both ways and turbo spool up is about the same meaning you would not notice any difference at all really.SJ.

matt-c 22 February 2017 10:25 AM

Cooler intake in theory due to the path of the pipes

banny sti 22 February 2017 10:32 AM

SJ has it correct all for looks, nothing much to be gained performance or spool wise

neil-h 22 February 2017 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11921267)
Less pipework and to some looks better:cool:,but I don't really subscribe to the less lag....I have run both ways and turbo spool up is about the same meaning you would not notice any difference at all really.SJ.

Think the real advantage is actually in packaging, rather than performance. Rotating the throttle body frees up a hell of a lot of space that would've been filled with pipe work.

stonejedi 22 February 2017 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11921316)
Think the real advantage is actually in packaging, rather than performance. Rotating the throttle body frees up a hell of a lot of space that would've been filled with pipe work.

It does make more space in the bay mate:), but that does not answer the OP question,which was "does it give more power"and to answer that question simply "it does not!"I have it done on my car strictly for cosmetic purposes and engine bay layout,because I had plans for fitting different components and making it easier to free up more room in my engine bay for fuel swirl pot,catch can etc etc etc...SJ.

stealthbomber 22 February 2017 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11921341)
It does make more space in the bay mate:), but that does not answer the OP question,which was "does it give more power"and to answer that question simply "it does not!"I have it done on my car strictly for cosmetic purposes and engine bay layout,because I had plans for fitting different components and making it easier to free up more room in my engine bay for fuel swirl pot,catch can etc etc etc...SJ.

Stop teasing and post a picture up, I'm a sucker for a rotated inlet :thumb:

bloomydj 22 February 2017 07:29 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...4fccf90d4f.jpg

My work in progress

stonejedi 22 February 2017 07:31 PM


Originally Posted by stealthbomber (Post 11921404)
Stop teasing and post a picture up, I'm a sucker for a rotated inlet :thumb:

As you asked so nicely;)

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...ca9bccae34.jpg
.SJ.

bloomydj 22 February 2017 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11921412)

:notworthy

360ste 22 February 2017 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11921412)


That is Subaru Porn!!!!

stealthbomber 22 February 2017 09:51 PM

Thank you SJ, just looks so good :thumb:. Did you do the rotation work yourself?

gazney101 22 February 2017 09:59 PM

I've considered this for a while, so I searched through images on Google for some inspiration for the pipework routing and it seems some have managed to leave the alternator and aircon in position.

Anyone have any ideas as to how they've done it?

I was thinking set the alternator as low as possible and find a suitable belt, then use manifold spacers?
Or would there still not be enough room?

I will only do it if I can keep the aircon.

stealthbomber 22 February 2017 10:02 PM

I'm not fussed about ditching the air-conditioning and have seen a kit for reversing the alternator bracket. Would be great to know what else is involved.

stonejedi 22 February 2017 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by stealthbomber (Post 11921454)
Thank you SJ, just looks so good :thumb:. Did you do the rotation work yourself?

Thanks mate:thumb:I had it done by my enginebuilder.Once you rotate the inlet it comes down to measuring and re-measuring fit and refit until you get the positioning of the pipework and other ancillaries perfect,If you have the time and patients you can get it fitted how you like as long as you work out where every other part is going to fit first without fouling and still function properly,that's why I said you have to know exactly why you want to rotate the inlet manifold as you are going to get zero performance gains from doing it,but it does clean up the look and free up space in the engine bay.SJ.

stonejedi 22 February 2017 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by bloomydj (Post 11921411)

Coming along well their mate:thumb:Good choice on the inlet;).SJ.

stealthbomber 23 February 2017 05:56 AM


Originally Posted by stonejedi (Post 11921479)
Thanks mate:thumb:I had it done by my enginebuilder.Once you rotate the inlet it comes down to measuring and re-measuring fit and refit until you get the positioning of the pipework and other ancillaries perfect,If you have the time and patients you can get it fitted how you like as long as you work out where every other part is going to fit first without fouling and still function properly,that's why I said you have to know exactly why you want to rotate the inlet manifold as you are going to get zero performance gains from doing it,but it does clean up the look and free up space in the engine bay.SJ.

Cheers. It is only for the looks, so much neater and makes some space for catch can, fuel reg gauge mounting etc. The HDÌ fmic pipework run is fugly so would sort that too. Now, any tips on finding some spare time.......

stonejedi 23 February 2017 07:08 AM


Originally Posted by stealthbomber (Post 11921485)
Cheers. It is only for the looks, so much neater and makes some space for catch can, fuel reg gauge mounting etc. The HDÌ fmic pipework run is fugly so would sort that too. Now, any tips on finding some spare time.......

Lol:lol1: I'm afraid I can't help you with that one...If you are going to rotate the inlet for looks and space then go for it buddy:thumb:let us know how you get on with it:).....SJ.

bustaMOVEs 23 February 2017 01:35 PM

Agree purely for looks, no gains to be had otherwise I would have done it, but for the work involved just for looks, I wasn't bothered.
Plus I think I'd have to use another inlet manifold as my icv will foul the bonnet on the v5 inlet so haven't bothered.
Does look boss though coupled with a rotated turbo, it's the standard procedure look.

ronjeramy 23 February 2017 11:57 PM


Originally Posted by stealthbomber (Post 11921464)
I'm not fussed about ditching the air-conditioning and have seen a kit for reversing the alternator bracket. Would be great to know what else is involved.

It's possible to keep the AC too, it's just more work

AWG 24 February 2017 06:41 PM

So is it the same manifold just turned 180?

Adrian is your FMIC pipework 2.5 inch?

ronjeramy 25 February 2017 02:27 PM


Originally Posted by AWG (Post 11921837)
So is it the same manifold just turned 180?

Adrian is your FMIC pipework 2.5 inch?

Don't think it's quite that simple, it is a Subaru after all :cry:

gussy 25 February 2017 05:29 PM

2 Attachment(s)

Originally Posted by AWG (Post 11921837)
So is it the same manifold just turned 180?

Adrian is your FMIC pipework 2.5 inch?

AWG from the pictures above those manifolds are the cosworth items not the oem items if you are going to use an oem item the best one to go for is the spec-c one piece if you can find one thats whats on mine flipped round.
Attachment 26359

Attachment 26360

stonejedi 25 February 2017 05:58 PM

What gussy said Andy:thumb:.SJ.

stealthbomber 25 February 2017 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by gussy (Post 11922028)
AWG from the pictures above those manifolds are the cosworth items not the oem items if you are going to use an oem item the best one to go for is the spec-c one piece if you can find one thats whats on mine flipped round.
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73...ps95558d65.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y73...ps81839393.jpg

Gussy, that looks like a serious engine bay :thumb:

mickywrx 25 February 2017 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by ronjeramy (Post 11921993)
Don't think it's quite that simple, it is a Subaru after all :cry:

It is that simple in it's basic form.

mickywrx 25 February 2017 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by gussy (Post 11922028)
if you are going to use an oem item the best one to go for is the spec-c one piece

Only on Phase 2 heads though, Gus. ;) Same as the Cosworth manifold.

AWG 27 February 2017 09:09 AM

Looks pretty awesome gussy. It was more out of interest, I'm unlikely to do anything to mine!

banny sti 27 February 2017 10:24 AM

2 Attachment(s)
done using a 2 piece newage inlet

Attachment 26338

Cosworth setup

Attachment 26339


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