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bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:08 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917707)
Yes you stated that you can have anyone as a fact. Then added it depends on the company.... make your mind up....

What by saying if obliged to do so, dependant on company means fact? Just stop it again, read again please ffs.
I suggest you seriously change your glasses that connects to your brain :thumb:

Give up while your ahead instead of the last word.
You look like a bellend that I've proven you to be, now stop quoting my posts and ignore me please.

You act like you're 25

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:11 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917706)
yawn.



yawn.



yawn.

I have said it many many times to you before, don't like it then **** off and stop reading. You are so very very boring....

You said about your company, not any company. Maybe English is not your strong point? Jog on fella, I shall reply as and where I wish. You don't have to read it or reply....

You took enough pleasure in harassing me at every opportunity, and now you're crying because I pointed out your error. Get over yourself....

Don't reply to MY POSTS. you opened up the discussion with me first. I've learned to ignore your crap. I advise you to do same.

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:15 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917711)
See, you resort to name calling and insults. No where did I insult or name call; just goes to show you are a childish and pretty hostile individual.

go find some help....

I'm calling you a prick because you had no need to quote any of my posts and prove to you what I actually said. Not what you skim read.
Prick!

Now don't talk to me again ffs.

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917719)
What by saying if obliged to do so means fact? I suggest you seriously change your glasses that connects to your brain :thumb:

Give up while your ahead instead of the last word.
You look like a bellend that I've proven you to be, now stop quoting my posts and ignore me please.

You act like you're 25

The English language is obviously not a strong point. Nor has anything you posted been relevant to the actual question the OP had. Other than to share your experience which is totally irrelevant....


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917722)
Don't reply to MY POSTS. you opened up the discussion with me first. I've learned to ignore your crap. I advise you to do same.

LOL. Or you shall what exactly fella? Come on, grow up a little..... You don't own the post and actually one an reply to anything they wish....

If you do not want me to reply, go join another forum?

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:19 PM

It's idiots like you that give this place a bad name. There was absolutely no need to question my posts on what you 'skim' read.
The sooner idiots like you leave the marque the better imo.

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:23 PM

I'm asking for you to simply not speak to me, stop trying to be hard about.
It's a simple request no?
As you, I can post anything on any forum relevant or not, just like the other posters have.

If you have an issue with my to chase me up on stuff, why don't you do it in person instead of chasing me down like some troll?

I'm not going to reply now as I'm wasting valuable time talking to a prick.

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917727)
It's idiots like you that give this place a bad name. There was absolutely no need to question my posts on what you 'skim' read.
The sooner idiots like you leave the marque the better imo.


Lol. You are a sad individual.... unfortunately for you, I am not going anywhere, I find you far too amusing :lol:

Again with the insults like a little school child. You really are pathetic. Maybe you should have thought about that before you started following me around like a little lost puppy a while back?

I will reply as and where I wish. Ignore or not, your choice fella, it matters not a single thing to me....

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:25 PM

Sorry op for ruining your thread.

elgassi 08 February 2017 07:38 PM

^ :lol:
I can see another 2 people going to a disciplinary meeting soon :confused:

Chill out at the back there in the 'penny seats' boys

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by elgassi (Post 11917741)
^ :lol:
I can see another 2 people going to a disciplinary meeting soon :confused:

Chill out at the back there in the 'penny seats' boys


LOL.

To actually add something useful to the thread, because I can....

There is no issue or rules to stop them been present at each others hearing because they are not allowed to participate in the hearing.

My regional union man confirmed it, and commented something along the lines of what a waste and if they are trying to be clever it will backfire and could give the company more ammunition.

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917733)
Lol. You are a sad individual.... unfortunately for you, I am not going anywhere, I find you far too amusing :lol:

Again with the insults like a little school child. You really are pathetic. Maybe you should have thought about that before you started following me around like a little lost puppy a while back?

I will reply as and where I wish. Ignore or not, your choice fella, it matters not a single thing to me....

Ah, so you are holding a grudge where you insulted my mother?
Is that why you're now following me around? Pot n kettle.
I used to pull you up on your in factual comments actually hence correcting you a while back if you care to remember. But now as I ignore you since I gave you the option to sort it out but then you come back as a clever dick, means I don't bother with you anymore as you just talk the talk.

I've just proved you can't read properly, not my problem is it?

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917747)
Ah, so you are holding a grudge where you insulted my mother?
Is that why you're now following me around? Pot n kettle.
I used to pull you up on your in factual comments actually hence correcting you a while back if you care to remember. But now as I ignore you since I gave you the option to sort it out but then you come back as a clever dick, means I don't bother with you anymore as you just talk the talk.

I've just proved you can't read properly, not my problem is it?


Are you still here?

You have said at least 3 times you're not going to reply, but here you are still talking crap :lol: You don't bother with me, yet you are the only one here bothered... :lol:

I'm not following anyone, I pointed out an inaccuracy, you got butt hurt.... I don't hold grudges, no time for that business, let it go fella, you are making yourself look daft...


JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917449)
You can have anyone you want if obliged to do so, depends on company really, I've had my wife at one who has nothing to do with company.

It's just an outside witness sort of thing so you can be treated fairly.


let's just look at this statement.... You have said that you can have anyone in with you. The use of the word oblige is key here, see below;

o·blige

(ə-blīj′)
v. o·bliged, o·blig·ing, o·blig·es
v.tr.
1. To compel or require (someone) to do something, as by circumstance or legality: When the power went out, we were obliged to fetch water with a bucket. The contract obliges you to meet the deadline.

As you can see, you have used a word, that would construe this as a fact, or legal standing.

As I then pointed put that this is not the case.

You second statement, then tries to allude to the fact that it is company dependant. Whilst having no basis for the comment in the context of the original post to believe this is possible or acceptable.

So at best, you have contradicted yourself by accident and your statement is incorrect. Or at worst, you do not have a clue and have nothing useful to contribute here as you actually do not have a clue...

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917500)
You can't have anyone you want. There is some very poor knowledge of employment law here...

if the company are daft enough to let you have anyone you want that is their choice.

but the law is it has to be a colleague or approved union rep.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/wo...inary-meeting/


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917595)
Yes and if you read, a companion is a union rep or colleague not a friend.... A companion is a legal term for been accompanied by the defined persons.

I never said that you can't, I said that any company that allows you to do that is crazy. So before going and giving it the big one, read what is written.


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917756)
Are you still here?

You have said at least 3 times you're not going to reply, but here you are still talking crap :lol: You don't bother with me, yet you are the only one here bothered... :lol:

I'm not following anyone, I pointed out an inaccuracy, you got butt hurt.... I don't hold grudges, no time for that business, let it go fella, you are making yourself look daft...

Dementia?

There was no inaccuracy as you quoted I said as a fact, you can't prove I even said fact can you?
You just skim read and thought you'd have a go at me because of your grudge against me, you know the time when you insulted my mother?
Everything I have written is of my experience so I shared it, and so did alcazar, his son went to one also so that means it's not just my company as you stated other 'cant' either.
You obviously listen to what someone's told you like you do as usual without actually experiencing or being in the situation yourself no?
All you've done here after me proving what I've said to which you thought I didn't is to then pick on something else I've said and turn it to it's not relevant to the op's question, but as you put it, you can post anything you like, so does that mean your superior than me?
And you tell me to grow up looool.
I can carry on posting if I wish to entertain you for longer as I'm now settled on my sofa :lol1:

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917399)
No you cannot. It's a colleague or union rep. They are not obliged to let anyone else in.

oh and another no you can't post :lol1:

But apparently you never said that did you :lol:

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917763)
Dementia?

There was no inaccuracy as you quoted I said as a fact, you can't prove I even said fact can you?
You just skim read and thought you'd have a go at me because of your grudge against me, you know the time when you insulted my mother?
Everything I have written is of my experience so I shared it, and so did alcazar, his son went to one also so that means it's not just my company as you stated other 'cant' either.
You obviously listen to what someone's told you like you do as usual without actually experiencing or being in the situation yourself no?
All you've done here after me proving what I've said to which you thought I didn't is to then pick on something else I've said and turn it to it's not relevant to the op's question, but as you put it, you can post anything you like, so does that mean your superior than me?
And you tell me to grow up looool.
I can carry on posting if I wish to entertain you for longer as I'm now settled on my sofa :lol1:

Lol. You are talking about circumstantial evidence. I work on the legalities of it.

apart from the fact that I even posted the link to the relevant information for you....

LOL. You make such wild assumptions. Yet obviously you have not got a single clue about this. Let alone needing your wife to stick up for you in a meeting....

You obviously fancy me or something as you seem to have a major hard on for me even though you repeatedly say you weren't going to talk anymore :lol:

JGlanzaV 08 February 2017 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917766)
oh and another no you can't post :lol1:

But apparently you never said that did you :lol:


reading is not a strong point of yours.....

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917761)
let's just look at this statement.... You have said that you can have anyone in with you. The use of the word oblige is key here, see below;

o·blige

(ə-blīj′)
v. o·bliged, o·blig·ing, o·blig·es
v.tr.
1. To compel or require (someone) to do something, as by circumstance or legality: When the power went out, we were obliged to fetch water with a bucket. The contract obliges you to meet the deadline.

As you can see, you have used a word, that would construe this as a fact, or legal standing.

As I then pointed put that this is not the case.

You second statement, then tries to allude to the fact that it is company dependant. Whilst having no basis for the comment in the context of the original post to believe this is possible or acceptable.

So at best, you have contradicted yourself by accident and your statement is incorrect. Or at worst, you do not have a clue and have nothing useful to contribute here as you actually do not have a clue...

Oh the spell police :lol1:
I did say I can have anyone I wished to be there yes, because I could.
And apparently so did another poster on here.
The fact it says in my contract to which the word that you pick on was used.(if you search my posts I do believe I've also pointed this out that there maybe more option on this in the works contract)
But the difference is I can read, maybe I need to go to school and learn English again, perhaps you can teach me?

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 09:03 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917772)
Lol. You are talking about circumstantial evidence. I work on the legalities of it.

apart from the fact that I even posted the link to the relevant information for you....

LOL. You make such wild assumptions. Yet obviously you have not got a single clue about this. Let alone needing your wife to stick up for you in a meeting....

You obviously fancy me or something as you seem to have a major hard on for me even though you repeatedly say you weren't going to talk anymore :lol:

Yes I love you really, can we meet? :luvlove:
My wife was there to be a witness if anything happened as my employer has a habit of kicking off but that's irrelevant to you but as you asked :thumb:
Nah I'd rarther carry on and see how far off topic you go seen as I've answered all my quotes that you never read properly, which your starting to already :lol1:

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917774)
reading is not a strong point of yours.....

Much like yourself then :lol:

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 09:07 PM

Can somebody be a union for me here LOL

elgassi 08 February 2017 11:06 PM

Ant & Dec move over we have your replacement now

come on down it's the
Busta & Glanza show :lol:

bustaMOVEs 08 February 2017 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by elgassi (Post 11917804)
Ant & Dec move over we have your replacement now

come on down it's the
Busta & Glanza show :lol:

:lol1:
We do love a good old chin wagg on here don't we.
These 25 year olds do love to try be superior dont they.

Ask him how much boost he's running :lol1::lol1:

Lisawrx 09 February 2017 12:24 AM

Nothing changes here, I see......

In summary, then.

1. Law states a colleague or union rep
2. Individual company policy may extend that to just anyone

I take it your company policy doesn't specify, so I would just go with point 1. As they are colleagues, I suppose it is therefore ok, however, it does seem like a bit of a 'conflict of interest', for want of a better way of putting it. Being witness for one another, it is certainly preparing the second to be disciplined for what is coming. As the witness can't actually get involved in proceedings, it doesn't really matter who it is.

That said, I would have an independant witness/note taker in on these. I always look at that as a sensible option (not sure if it is law) so as you don't have people claiming x,y or z was or wasn't said. I've never understood why hearings aren't just recorded.

JGlanzaV 09 February 2017 05:53 AM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11917811)
:lol1:
We do love a good old chin wagg on here don't we.
These 25 year olds do love to try be superior dont they.

Ask him how much boost he's running :lol1::lol1:

YAWN. So much original material, you are worse than sky for repeats....

ditchmyster 09 February 2017 07:19 AM

:lol1:

You two are comedy gold :lol1: ... one thing though... It's nice to be on the outside looking in for a change. :lol1:

You're like a pair of faggots c0@k jousting. :lol1: :D

It's quite enlightening watching you two go at it... it's almost like you're twins separated at birth... both got modded sheds, both weekend racers and think you're going to be discovered by a racing team and be the new Lewis of the shed racers, and neither wants to give in. :hjtwofing :norty: :lol1: :D


Welcome back Lisa, some things do change.... ^ look it's not me^ :lol1:

JGlanzaV 09 February 2017 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11917828)
:lol1:

You two are comedy gold :lol1: ... one thing though... It's nice to be on the outside looking in for a change. :lol1:

You're like a pair of faggots c0@k jousting. :lol1: :D

It's quite enlightening watching you two go at it... it's almost like you're twins separated at birth... both got modded sheds, both weekend racers and think you're going to be discovered by a racing team and be the new Lewis of the shed racers, and neither wants to give in. :hjtwofing :norty: :lol1: :D


Welcome back Lisa, some things do change.... ^ look it's not me^ :lol1:


I suppose the difference is mine is modded properly, not a half arsed job that broke after a few months :lol:

I'm no good at racing, I just find it fun :lol:

ditchmyster 09 February 2017 08:32 AM

:lol1:

Sorry couldn't resist. :D

He's got a point MR 'What you say bout my moma' :lol1: :D

Lisawrx 09 February 2017 10:26 AM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11917828)
Welcome back Lisa, some things do change.... ^ look it's not me^ :lol1:

True :lol1:

Also, thank you. I still won't be able to be around a lot, but thought I should at least pop my head in. :eek:

bustaMOVEs 09 February 2017 12:42 PM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11917823)
YAWN. So much original material, you are worse than sky for repeats....

Morning mr 2.75 bar..........you live in fairly land. Original but pure classics never go old, even on sky:lol1::lol1:


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