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Wurzel 13 October 2017 10:03 AM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 11971537)
Left hand on mine isn't bad, and right is worse buy only outside. Was quoted nearly grand for both. Insane amount. As another guy quotes me £150 a side.

I think a grand for both is pretty reasonable, over here in Germany I was quoted €2k a side and that was by a neighbour friend of mine who runs a bodyshop.

Scoobyclinic are doing inner and outer arches on both sides.

The Rig 13 October 2017 10:33 AM

After just repairing my near side strut turret area and a bit on the arches, i think alot of people dont realise how bad the rust is.

If you have visible rust on the outside, prepare for treble the amount on the inner panel, once you start breaking away the metal it sure spreads !!

My rear arches had only started going on the inner panel so was lucky, a bit of cutting back and repairing the inner only should hopefully stem the rot for some more yrs.

Also the area inside the boot , under the carpet at the back left and right is quite thin so you can easily have rust underneath that can penetrate the boot floor pan once you start looking for it all

jaygsi 13 October 2017 11:01 AM

That's not really true. Mine has rust on the arch. I had a body shop look at it they checked all around the strut and said they had a P1 in where it had gone all around top of strut. Mine was fine. My rust has started from the lip and gone outwards. Some has gone onwards but not too far.




Originally Posted by The Rig
After just repairing my near side strut turret area and a bit on the arches, i think alot of people dont realise how bad the rust is.

If you have visible rust on the outside, prepare for treble the amount on the inner panel, once you start breaking away the metal it sure spreads !!

My rear arches had only started going on the inner panel so was lucky, a bit of cutting back and repairing the inner only should hopefully stem the rot for some more yrs.

Also the area inside the boot , under the carpet at the back left and right is quite thin so you can easily have rust underneath that can penetrate the boot floor pan once you start looking for it all


The Trooper 1815 13 October 2017 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 11971614)
That's not really true. Mine has rust on the arch. I had a body shop look at it they checked all around the strut and said they had a P1 in where it had gone all around top of strut. Mine was fine. My rust has started from the lip and gone outwards. Some has gone onwards but not too far.

I would suggest taking the inner rear wheel arch liners off and having a look for yourself, forward of the fuel filler and rear wheel brace holder, you maybe surprised.
Also take the plastic cover off the fuel filler. They go like F#*k too.

The Rig 13 October 2017 05:44 PM

As above., dont care if the body shop guys says its all good, if you get bubbling showing on the outside there is a lot more rust going on inside.

My strut turret passed every year no problem and probbaly would of kept passing, a gentle tap and poke revealed nothing, it was only when i put proper pressure onto the metal i could hear it creaking and cracking, after 20 mins of finger bleeding i had found this

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...2b90cedb4a.jpg



Not saying your car is rotten but dont go by what you cant see

The Trooper 1815 13 October 2017 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by The Rig (Post 11971716)
As above., dont care if the body shop guys says its all good, if you get bubbling showing on the outside there is a lot more rust going on inside.

My strut turret passed every year no problem and probbaly would of kept passing, a gentle tap and poke revealed nothing, it was only when i put proper pressure onto the metal i could hear it creaking and cracking, after 20 mins of finger bleeding i had found this

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...2b90cedb4a.jpg



Not saying your car is rotten but dont go by what you cant see

Exacttly.
:thumb:

jaygsi 13 October 2017 06:09 PM

Ok will have a look. I have receipts from new of the extras like under body seal protection etc so I'm sure that's helped. Not sure if that prevent wheel arch rust.




Originally Posted by The Rig
As above., dont care if the body shop guys says its all good, if you get bubbling showing on the outside there is a lot more rust going on inside.

My strut turret passed every year no problem and probbaly would of kept passing, a gentle tap and poke revealed nothing, it was only when i put proper pressure onto the metal i could hear it creaking and cracking, after 20 mins of finger bleeding i had found this

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...2b90cedb4a.jpg



Not saying your car is rotten but dont go by what you cant see


The Rig 13 October 2017 09:40 PM

Its a weird one, mine must of set in over in japan as ive owned the classic 11 yrs now and i undersealed it from the 1st month i had it and every year after that, i reckpon the layers of underseal kept it together all this time ha but the rot must of been in the metal all those yrs ago as theres no way it could of started to rust since i had it as i say with all that underseal on it

Shane 13 October 2017 10:05 PM

They tend to rot from the inside out so no amount of underseal will help, Remove the boot liners on each side and scare yourself. Paint on my arches and underseal inside the wheel arch were intact but had rusted through from the other side.

The Trooper 1815 13 October 2017 10:47 PM

The white mastic type bond that is used inside the car is anerobic and absorbs moisture.
No win :cry:

jaygsi 13 October 2017 11:20 PM

Had i best just forget i saw this thread :thumb:

The Trooper 1815 13 October 2017 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 11971777)
Had i best just forget i saw this thread :thumb:

It maybe an option.

jaygsi 14 October 2017 12:09 AM

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...228da381d1.jpg

AlexGC8 17 November 2017 06:12 PM

Does the guy still produce the sills and wings? If so can you pm me his details please?

jaygsi 18 November 2017 11:08 AM

Think he does i need to email him again. He's on Facebook but if you need his email let me know.

Perry Graf 20 December 2017 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by andymcf05 (Post 11916849)
hi steve. excuse my ignorance but whats the difference between a sill and rocker?

are the outer sills contoured like the originals? i need 1 for my P1

cheers

Can someone enlighten me too?

Edit..should have googled it first. For anyone else interested rockers are more complete sills...


https://www.carid.com/images/pages/r...cker-panel.jpg

I'd also like contact details of someone who can provide sills, inner arches maybe rocker ?

jaygsi 25 April 2018 07:03 PM

sales@silverline-uk.com

jaygsi 22 May 2018 12:18 AM

Removed them and no rust at all.




Originally Posted by Shane (Post 11971770)
They tend to rot from the inside out so no amount of underseal will help, Remove the boot liners on each side and scare yourself. Paint on my arches and underseal inside the wheel arch were intact but had rusted through from the other side.


jaygsi 13 September 2018 12:41 AM

Did anyone get any arches of him?

Ash Webster 13 September 2018 10:28 AM

Just a hint for this don't buy arches from Rubgy Automotive or anything that looks similar to:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IM...72.m2749.l2649

was very lucky my arches didnt need replacements in the end but my fabricator said they were trash anyway, far too flimsy and thin. Binned them in the end, as they wouldnt accept a return (unused) and eBay wouldnt refund me also.

Steve Whitehorn 13 September 2018 03:13 PM


Originally Posted by jaygsi (Post 12026635)
Did anyone get any arches of him?

Yes quite a few have, Jay
Best way to contact them these days is tap in - Automotive Repair Panels into Facebook.

Jay Cartay 13 September 2018 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn (Post 12026690)
Yes quite a few have, Jay
Best way to contact them these days is tap in - Automotive Repair Panels into Facebook.

Doesn't find anything when I try that on the mobile app. Thinking I best check my own now...

johned 14 September 2018 08:50 PM

Very interesting.

jaygsi 15 September 2018 04:03 PM

Not on Facebook. Although been on other persons account and found his page but nothing about arches.



Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn
Yes quite a few have, Jay
Best way to contact them these days is tap in - Automotive Repair Panels into Facebook.


Steve Whitehorn 23 September 2018 06:22 PM

Hopefully this link will work
https://en-gb.facebook.com/pages/biz...4084321262541/

jaygsi 25 September 2018 12:54 PM

Thanks that worked. I've just bought one off ebay and to be fair looks about the same. Thats the one off facebook.

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...c1da46165b.png

Here's the one i bought.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SUBARU-IM...53.m1438.l2649





Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn (Post 12028000)


jaygsi 27 September 2018 10:39 AM

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jaygsi 10 October 2018 11:55 PM

Look the same and mine has no flex, was half the price. Just need to check the thickness of the metal now.

ProperCarpy 07 December 2019 11:33 PM


Originally Posted by Steve Whitehorn (Post 11911473)
I thought this might be of interest to the enthusiasts here.

The rear arch replacements sold on Ebay tend to be wafer thin. Which is OK if you are a chav that wants to botch something.

My friend has sourced replacement arches and sills which are the same thickness as the originals. So if any of you are thinking of doing a proper repair job/restoration job on a classic let me know and I will put you in touch with him.

Cheers
Steve

i have PM’d you Steve I know it’s an old post but 🤞


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