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Mark10sti 14 January 2017 01:11 PM

500/500+ tyres
 
I was running Yokohama prada spec 2s about 1/2 way worn, until one day just coming off a junction at <30mph traction on the back end went on a barely damp road and bang one tree later and my car became a pile of parts.

What tyres are been used for a 500/500 road car, its very easy just to pick the most expensive but I thought I could pool your knowledge to pick the best tyres according to opinion.

18" wheel fyi

Awaiting in anticipation for many replies

fpan 14 January 2017 02:51 PM

Michelin Pilot Supersports.

joe v3sti 14 January 2017 04:03 PM

Slicks!

JGlanzaV 14 January 2017 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by joe v3sti (Post 11910371)
Slicks!


This.

The problem was your driving in the damp with that much power. Doesnt really matter what tyres you have in the wet, you need to anticipate that it is going to do some lairy ****....

My car i use toyo proxes 4, ns2r 120, etc etc and have always found with that much power on the damp you are driving a death trap, best bet is to use it on dry days only with high performance tyres and enjoy it properly...

joe v3sti 14 January 2017 06:02 PM

De tune the car you cannot use that power effectively on the road

RAGGY DOO 14 January 2017 06:02 PM

Bridgestone re002

joe v3sti 14 January 2017 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO (Post 11910396)
Bridgestone re002

Are you kidding, it's a 1A list tyre which means it's not right cracking

fpan 14 January 2017 06:50 PM

Useable power is key indeed.

RAGGY DOO 14 January 2017 06:53 PM

[QUOTE=joe v3sti;11910413]Are you kidding, it's a 1A list tyre which means it's not right cracking[/QUOT

I only do 2k a year all on the road
no cracking no issues putting down 455 ponies

joe v3sti 14 January 2017 07:10 PM

They are not s good tyre I'm afraid

bustaMOVEs 14 January 2017 08:24 PM

Rs3 in wet and semi slicks in dry.

banny sti 14 January 2017 08:49 PM

Used both ad08s and ns2rs 18p compound, both are wank in wet/damp conditions spot on in the dry. All the more fun with dccd fully open lol

2pot 14 January 2017 08:55 PM

Coilovers? Big bars? No sidewall

ditchmyster 14 January 2017 09:08 PM

Only had 330bhp in a Type R but always found it quite easy to break traction, especially at this time of year when the roads are greasy and god knows how much diesel has been dripped all over the place, particularly anywhere that there's a bend in the road.

Doesn't matter how much power, cold, wet and greasy = fit winter tyres and pay more attention, half worn summer tyres aren't really up to the job. :thumb:

scoobiepaul 14 January 2017 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by fpan (Post 11910358)
Michelin Pilot Supersports.

Got Michelin sport tyres on mine and they are very good all round tyres in my opinion, but as already said with high power in damp/wet conditions no tyre will be perfect.

johnlogie 15 January 2017 02:05 AM

Using R888R in the summer and Toyo T1R's during the winter. 500bhp is far too much for any road car. Just take it easy on the loud pedal ;)

stonejedi 15 January 2017 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by JGlanzaV (Post 11910385)
THIS!
The problem was your driving in the damp with that much power. Doesnt really matter what tyres you have in the wet, you need to anticipate that it is going to do some lairy ****....

My car i use toyo proxes 4, ns2r 120, etc etc and have always found with that much power on the damp you are driving a death trap, best bet is to use it on dry days only with high performance tyres and enjoy it properly...

And THIS!

Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 11910455)
Used both ad08s and ns2rs 18p compound, both are wank in wet/damp conditions spot on in the dry. All the more fun with dccd fully open lol

Drive according to road conditions and your own talent;)Any tire will suffer in the wet with 500 brake horses to keep under control.SJ.

JGlanzaV 15 January 2017 07:50 AM


Originally Posted by johnlogie (Post 11910517)
Using R888R in the summer and Toyo T1R's during the winter. 500bhp is far too much for any road car. Just take it easy on the loud pedal ;)

Exactly this.

I doubt i even use 30% of its potential in anything other than the driest days... Even then no where near 100%

alcazar 15 January 2017 09:55 AM

I would agree with the post about power. Mine is 400+ 400+ off a 2.5 and I can unstick it in the damp.

NO tyre is going to give you unlimited grip.

Have you looked at your suspension setup?

plenty 15 January 2017 10:38 PM

Parada Spec 2s are ancient technology and pretty cack when they were new. Get a set of Pilot Super Sports if you can still find them, or wait for the PS4S which is being launched in a few weeks. Difference will be night and day, and you will indeed be able to take advantage of your power/torque responsibly even in mixed conditions.

2pot 15 January 2017 10:51 PM

I believe the pilot sport 4S are only being launched in 19"/20"?
The pilot sport 4 might be worth investigating - PSS with updated wet weather ability.

domino46 15 January 2017 11:37 PM

530/500 and I use eagle F1 and have found them to be quite good so far

JGlanzaV 16 January 2017 06:42 AM


Originally Posted by plenty (Post 11910786)
Parada Spec 2s are ancient technology and pretty cack when they were new. Get a set of Pilot Super Sports if you can still find them, or wait for the PS4S which is being launched in a few weeks. Difference will be night and day, and you will indeed be able to take advantage of your power/torque responsibly even in mixed conditions.


Have you used tbis on a 500+ impreza? No tyre is going to make it any less lairy in the wet....

ditchmyster 16 January 2017 08:14 AM

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plenty 16 January 2017 10:49 AM

Try them...you might be pleasantly surprised.

dazdavies 18 January 2017 06:32 PM

Sounds like you were either going too quickly or there was something on the road. My hawk is north of 600HP and up until a couple of weeks back it had 4 year old worn out average Pirellis on all the way round. Even with a bit of spirited driving it was fairly hard to break traction unless I really wanted it to. Obviously if I provoked it hard enough I could get it to slide all over the place but I really would have to intend for it to do that. Unless your tyres were proper sh!t I'd say there were other factors.

I now have Hankook Ventus Sport EVO 2 tyres on and they are pretty damn good even when it's p!ssing it down. I've used alsorts over the years and the only one I could find better than them in the dry were the Yoko AD08s but they were shocking at dealing with standing water.

Mark10sti 18 January 2017 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by dazdavies (Post 11911675)
Sounds like you were either going too quickly or there was something on the road. My hawk is north of 600HP and up until a couple of weeks back it had 4 year old worn out average Pirellis on all the way round. Even with a bit of spirited driving it was fairly hard to break traction unless I really wanted it to. Obviously if I provoked it hard enough I could get it to slide all over the place but I really would have to intend for it to do that. Unless your tyres were proper sh!t I'd say there were other factors.

I now have Hankook Ventus Sport EVO 2 tyres on and they are pretty damn good even when it's p!ssing it down. I've used alsorts over the years and the only one I could find better than them in the dry were the Yoko AD08s but they were shocking at dealing with standing water.



Cheers Daz,
This is the kind of feedback I was looking for, I too found it hard to break traction until going round this junction in 3rd at under 30, I guess it was either the tyres or something on the road albeit I didn't see anything on the road

Marietto 20 January 2017 06:56 PM


Originally Posted by Mark10sti (Post 11911701)
Cheers Daz,
This is the kind of feedback I was looking for, I too found it hard to break traction until going round this junction in 3rd at under 30, I guess it was either the tyres or something on the road albeit I didn't see anything on the road

Had Parada Spec 2s on my 477/475 Hawkeye STI (18s) - great in the dry, but absolutely terrible in the wet. They used to break traction even at 25-30mph round my local roundabout if it was even slightly damp. So don't think it was down to your poor driving mate - they were just sh1te in the wet/damp. My suspension set up was in tip top and was aligned for me by a local racing driver on his Hunter machine - does all the local Scoob lads and knows his stuff.

Changed the Paradas to Goodyear Eagle F1 AS2 and it was like night and day in terms of wet & dry grip compared to the Parada. Top marks all round Goodyear

Currently have Uniroyal Rainsport 3s on my 474/483 V5 Type R and I have to say I am very impressed overall on their performance in both wet & dry conditions and let's face it, it's more wet than dry in this country! :lol1: Very good when they are considered a mid-range tyre. Restricted by choice because of the 215 x 35 x 18, but would love to go for Michelin Pilot Sport 4 as a lot of the local Scoob lads use them and rate them very highly.

sonic93 21 January 2017 08:17 AM

Be even better on a bigger profile tyre. I run 225 40 18 or 225 45 17 on v3 type r for road/track. Once upon a time I ran 215 35 18 was awful.

Marietto 21 January 2017 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by sonic93 (Post 11912362)
Be even better on a bigger profile tyre. I run 225 40 18 or 225 45 17 on v3 type r for road/track. Once upon a time I ran 215 35 18 was awful.

Yeah they aren't very forgiving that's for sure - can I run that sort of size tyre on my 18 x 7.5 alloys - 225 40 18?


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