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Boyakasha 10 October 2016 07:08 PM

Hard Turbo Inlet Pipe, APS/AP/AMS etc
 
Folks does anyone have a hard Turbo inlet pipe for sale, as I've got a Samco on at the mo but it's starting to get sucked in above 5.5k rip in 5th gear.

Cheers

Marc

bustaMOVEs 10 October 2016 07:36 PM

Best bet is to get a custom one made from any ally welder

Boyakasha 10 October 2016 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11883324)
Best bet is to get a custom one made from any ally welder

Was thinking that, as its the best part of £300 from the states for the AP one.

bustaMOVEs 10 October 2016 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11883333)
Was thinking that, as its the best part of £300 from the states for the AP one.

Yep I know and don't see them pop up that often and if you don't get the correct silicone coupler it can cause a bad kink in it which will restrict flow, they only a straight pipe with silicone joiners.
The Subaru manifolds have a offset turbo to inlet depending what manifold is fitted, so best making a copy of your current Samco out of a ally pipe.

Boyakasha 11 October 2016 06:37 AM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11883361)
Yep I know and don't see them pop up that often and if you don't get the correct silicone coupler it can cause a bad kink in it which will restrict flow, they only a straight pipe with silicone joiners.
The Subaru manifolds have a offset turbo to inlet depending what manifold is fitted, so best making a copy of your current Samco out of a ally pipe.

:thumb:

WUZ 11 October 2016 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11883361)
The Subaru manifolds have a offset turbo to inlet depending what manifold is fitted, so best making a copy of your current Samco out of a ally pipe.

Sounds familiar eh Marc...........

Boyakasha 11 October 2016 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by WUZ (Post 11883438)
Sounds familiar eh Marc...........

Shut it :P

imprezagaz 12 October 2016 07:11 AM

Is there anywhere in the U.K. That sell the ap pipes?

Boyakasha 12 October 2016 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by imprezagaz (Post 11883787)
Is there anywhere in the U.K. That sell the ap pipes?

Not that I've found, and I've emailed AP about posting to the UK and heard feck all back.

bustaMOVEs 12 October 2016 09:35 PM

I wouldn't buy one tbh, the way the coupler sits it not encouraging

bustaMOVEs 12 October 2016 09:43 PM

As said, depends on inlet manifold clearance.
But just an example


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f7317e7b9.jpeg


Be a dam site cheaper to get one made than paying the hefty price of them, custom will be a better kink

WUZ 13 October 2016 07:26 AM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11883998)
As said, depends on inlet manifold clearance.
But just an example


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f7317e7b9.jpeg


Be a dam site cheaper to get one made than paying the hefty price of them, custom will be a better kink

That is a F*****G DISASTER!

EPIC FAIL,,,,,,,

domino46 13 October 2016 07:46 AM

Doesn't need to be solid just good quality as mine all silicone and doesn't collapse at all

jody0702 14 October 2016 12:05 AM


Originally Posted by domino46 (Post 11884059)
Doesn't need to be solid just good quality as mine all silicone and doesn't collapse at all

I got an aps one on nasioc a few years back, they pop up more over there for sale. Mine came with two couplers that are offset as shown on bustas pics. One of them is larger for bigger turbos. I did mine in situ which I would advise against and would take the inlet off and put spacers in that too while at it. The offset coupler actually works well when fitted correctly as it has to get round the inside back edge of manifold. As busta said best do it custom. Take off the inlet and put spacers in, 2 benefits as keeps the manifold cool and more clearance for intake. Once the inlets off you can really see and plan how u want ur intake. Also check and replace with new or better the fuel lines that run under the inlet once off. As I left my inlet on and had to twist n turn n swear n shout tryin to get the inlet in I caught one of the fuel lines but didn't notice til id put it mostly back together again. I also managed to brake a pipe off the purge control solenoid so that's why I say about taking the inlet off!! The spacers with the o rings in are good as u don't need 2 sets of gaskets for each side!

domino46 14 October 2016 07:03 AM


Originally Posted by jody0702 (Post 11884292)
I got an aps one on nasioc a few years back, they pop up more over there for sale. Mine came with two couplers that are offset as shown on bustas pics. One of them is larger for bigger turbos. I did mine in situ which I would advise against and would take the inlet off and put spacers in that too while at it. The offset coupler actually works well when fitted correctly as it has to get round the inside back edge of manifold. As busta said best do it custom. Take off the inlet and put spacers in, 2 benefits as keeps the manifold cool and more clearance for intake. Once the inlets off you can really see and plan how u want ur intake. Also check and replace with new or better the fuel lines that run under the inlet once off. As I left my inlet on and had to twist n turn n swear n shout tryin to get the inlet in I caught one of the fuel lines but didn't notice til id put it mostly back together again. I also managed to brake a pipe off the purge control solenoid so that's why I say about taking the inlet off!! The spacers with the o rings in are good as u don't need 2 sets of gaskets for each side!


Iv done plenty of them now without removing the inlet or using spacers lol , my current one is a forced performance one and is a 83mm inlet and still didn't have any problems fitting it with everything still in place ,, running 531bhp without any sign of collapse :thumb:

Boyakasha 10 November 2016 07:38 PM

Well tried fitting an RCM pipe and had no luck as it kept popping off the Turbo as we tried to line up the Inlet manifold. In the end put the sh1te Samco one back on that turned out to be only 3 layer and put some steel pipe inside it to make do for the time being. Power dropped from 470 to 420 just by fitting the rings inside.

Rotated will cure the issue, it'll also cost a few ££££

seanvx 10 November 2016 08:10 PM

I was looking at getting a samco inlet hose for my jdm blob would it collapse with 350hp and 8k rev limit

bustaMOVEs 10 November 2016 08:17 PM


Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11893538)
Well tried fitting an RCM pipe and had no luck as it kept popping off the Turbo as we tried to line up the Inlet manifold. In the end put the sh1te Samco one back on that turned out to be only 3 layer and put some steel pipe inside it to make do for the time being. Power dropped from 470 to 420 just by fitting the rings inside.

Rotated will cure the issue, it'll also cost a few ££££

Which rcm one? What car version inlet is it etc?

I'm running a lateral one, although it looks crap in blue lol but does the job well even at 2bar. It's ribbed with metal inside.

The rcm ones should be as good I'd of thought, depending if correct kink for manifold used.

bustaMOVEs 10 November 2016 08:19 PM

You fitted one of these? http://rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/st...induction-hose

Boyakasha 11 November 2016 08:51 AM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11893548)

It's this one:

http://rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/st...bo-intake-pipe

Good piece of kit but kink to connect to the turbo was no way near enough. Car is a 2.5 UK STi running an MD321V and inlet spacers. I did think about buying a Spec C manifold to give some more room and adjust the up-pipe over to the right to allow the inlet pipe to fit straight in.

I think we'll try and adjust the up-pipe to see how much wiggle room there is, if that gives us any more room then I'll look at the lateral one from mark.

Marc

SmurfyBhoy 11 November 2016 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11893538)
Well tried fitting an RCM pipe and had no luck as it kept popping off the Turbo as we tried to line up the Inlet manifold. In the end put the sh1te Samco one back on that turned out to be only 3 layer and put some steel pipe inside it to make do for the time being. Power dropped from 470 to 420 just by fitting the rings inside.

Rotated will cure the issue, it'll also cost a few ££££

You lost 50bhp from the pipe :O

Did it have 1/2" wall thickness lol.

imprezagaz 11 November 2016 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11893547)
Which rcm one? What car version inlet is it etc?

I'm running a lateral one, although it looks crap in blue lol but does the job well even at 2bar. It's ribbed with metal inside.

The rcm ones should be as good I'd of thought, depending if correct kink for manifold used.

Have you any pics of yours? I was either thinking the Perrin one or the hard pipe ap one but it put me Off of the bad kink to the turbo with the ap. is your lateral one 3"

bustaMOVEs 11 November 2016 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by Boyakasha (Post 11893724)
It's this one:

http://rogerclarkmotorsport.co.uk/st...bo-intake-pipe

Good piece of kit but kink to connect to the turbo was no way near enough. Car is a 2.5 UK STi running an MD321V and inlet spacers. I did think about buying a Spec C manifold to give some more room and adjust the up-pipe over to the right to allow the inlet pipe to fit straight in.

I think we'll try and adjust the up-pipe to see how much wiggle room there is, if that gives us any more room then I'll look at the lateral one from mark.

Marc

Have to rang rcm to tell them? Could be a few different ones as some manifolds don't come in the way as much.
I know rcm do a specific precision turbo pipe as they say in listing something todo with turbo sitting off centre.
It should fit perfectly as per their listings, if it doesn't then I'd be onto them to tell them.


Originally Posted by imprezagaz (Post 11893831)
Have you any pics of yours? I was either thinking the Perrin one or the hard pipe ap one but it put me Off of the bad kink to the turbo with the ap. is your lateral one 3"

The best imo out of all would be a custom one tig wielded, be cheaper than them ones, I was meant to be getting one made when I thought mine was collapsing under boost because I was down on power but the reason I was down on power was my hg was failing which I later confirmed so not overly bothered about one now although would look nicer as blue one I have dosent match with owt.
No, my lateral is the stock size 63 I think but you can get the bigger ones too.
The lateral one fits perfect and I'll see if I can dig one out but not sure if I got one.

imprezagaz 11 November 2016 04:31 PM

Cheers, yeah I've looked into getting one made aswell. Only thing that puts me off it that there isn't much room for error when making them.

bustaMOVEs 11 November 2016 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by imprezagaz (Post 11893848)
Cheers, yeah I've looked into getting one made aswell. Only thing that puts me off it that there isn't much room for error when making them.

Yes agree, best to copy your one slightly that has the right angles and then just buy a silicone joiner to meet the turbo.

Can't find a picture at hand, I reformatted my iPad and sent all pics over to laptop for storage so I think if I've got any, will be in my thread. Sorry.

bustaMOVEs 11 November 2016 04:46 PM

I might be able to get a few made all at once from a guy local 'apw engineering' in Barnsley.
Google of search on facebook for the quality of their work, they do all sorts from full exhausts to manifold for skyline engines etc across Europe.
But he's always busy and hard to fit me in unless I hassle him, it's only a small job mine compared to their regular work.
But if I can get a decent size order in then it may sway him if there's enough interest like say 10 people. (Group buy anyone?):D:D:D

bustaMOVEs 11 November 2016 04:47 PM

I've got my lateral one I can copy.

imprezagaz 11 November 2016 06:18 PM

I'd be interested if it's not too long away:thumb:
The few I've emailed around my area don't seem to be interested

seanvx 11 November 2016 08:21 PM

me to

Boyakasha 11 November 2016 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by SmurfyBhoy (Post 11893731)
You lost 50bhp from the pipe :O

Did it have 1/2" wall thickness lol.

Yeah, just wanted to make sure it didn't collapse!


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