305bhp 267lbs how to get lbs up??
Hi I have just had the car on the dyno
It made 305bhp and 267lbs Car is a uk 2000 terzo 440s Td05 16g Fmic Power fc Full exhaust and intake Fuel pump etc etc Running uk 5 speed What do people think of these figures? What is it that improves the torque ? |
more boost or cc
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Whack a forged 2.5 in there....mine managed 342 bhp / 410 ft lbs with standard turbo / injectors. I do also have PPP exhaust set up (nothing special really)
A peach built by Subaru 4 You, then mapped by Mr Rawle. |
get a better turbo
A decent 16g would make 330bhp and torque on that setup, if its an ebay special its probably that. Either that or cheap crap headers are another way to lose power/spool etc. And ditch the apexi, theyre dated technology. Come over to the mainland for an ESL board and map, with switchable maps, mafless, antilag and launch if required. |
There's only about 10k miles on my bottom end rebuild and after the car sat for a few years I ended up doing a top end rebuild.
Am I right in saying a side entry turbo off a classic wrx is the 16g? It's a original Subaru one. I'm running just under 1.2 bar didn't want to push the limits. |
Im also running standard headers and up pipe.
Your right about the power fc it's a dated piece of kit. I'm happy enough with the 300hp mark but just wanted to know is that the usual output of torque on a uk turbo? |
Originally Posted by 53
(Post 11879062)
Bollocks on the Apexi btw it's old but good tuned correctly. Need 1.4 bar and an AVCR and someone who knows Apexi inside out. 320/320 here with similar mods on Apexi. I had simtek before and although it was marginally smoother it was shyte in every other respect compared to old skool Apexi.
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Originally Posted by Gareth333
(Post 11879074)
What Benifit would the avcr have over the manual boost control. It holds boost pretty good at the min?
Stick with the apexi. |
A terzo should have a front entry turbo, not top entry (theres no such thing as side entry).
16g came on early STI's and was top entry, so if its been converted to front entry it should be a capable unit. At that boost i'd expect your torque to match bhp if its a genuine td05. |
Originally Posted by TypeR99
(Post 11879079)
A terzo should have a front entry turbo, not top entry (theres no such thing as side entry).
16g came on early STI's and was top entry, so if its been converted to front entry it should be a capable unit. At that boost i'd expect your torque to match bhp if its a genuine td05. |
Originally Posted by Gareth333
(Post 11879086)
Yes it was converted to front entry. Any ideas what would contribute to the lower torque apart from the turbo?
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I got a huge torque boost when I switched to a good flowing 3" catless system and RCM headers, 338bhp & 351 ft lbs
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Originally Posted by mjp02wrx
(Post 11879089)
I got a huge torque boost when I switched to a good flowing 3" catless system and RCM headers, 338bhp & 351 ft lbs
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330bhp & 332 ft lbs, this was 3" down pipe & centre, 2.5" prodrive back box and japspeed equal length headers, swapped to full 3" mongoose system and RCM unequal headers.
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Originally Posted by mjp02wrx
(Post 11879097)
330bhp & 332 ft lbs, this was 3" down pipe & centre, 2.5" prodrive back box and japspeed equal length headers, swapped to full 3" mongoose system and RCM unequal headers.
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yes td05 @ 22 psi boost
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Originally Posted by mjp02wrx
(Post 11879100)
yes td05 @ 22 psi boost
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Ran 330/330 on a 1999 uk2000 with the following
front converted td05-16g 440cc injectors 255 fuel pump Front mount intercooler rcm induction kit 3 port boost solenoid Scoobyworld sports cat system stock headers/up pipe Mapped by Zen using ecutek on stock ecu I know you're limited fuel wise in N.I but that wont account for the huge torque loss. Who mapped it? Finding mappers that will do apexi are getting harder and finding ANY decent mapper in N.I is almost impossible. I know of 2 subaru places in N.I and ROI that fly in 2 different mainland mappers to do their work. The more I look at your figures vs spec the more it leans towards a mapping issue |
[QUOTE=TypeR99;11879112]Ran 330/330 on a 1999 uk2000 with the following
front converted td05-16g 440cc injectors 255 fuel pump Front mount intercooler rcm induction kit 3 port boost solenoid Scoobyworld sports cat system stock headers/up pipe Mapped by Zen using ecutek on stock ecu I know you're limited fuel wise in N.I but that wont account for the huge torque loss. Who mapped it? Finding mappers that will do apexi are getting harder and finding ANY decent mapper in N.I is almost impossible. I know of 2 subaru places in N.I and ROI that fly in 2 different mainland mappers to do their work. The more I look at your figures vs spec the more it leans towards a mapping issue I shal have to have a think about this. Who can you recommend over here? |
TypeR99
I would say it was Paul from Zen Performance, but he doesnt map normal customers cars anymore :-( |
Some folk on this thread aint got a scooby doo lol
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Originally Posted by Gareth333
(Post 11879113)
I shal have to have a think about this. Who can you recommend over here? |
Originally Posted by TypeR99
(Post 11879265)
Talk to Dave Byrne @ RSR Dublin or Murray Motorsport Newry
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Had mine dynod last weekend .. Uk2000 awd running standard td04 , new walbro pump and straight through exhaust got a graph some were its preaty bang on even
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Originally Posted by Jimmyrallye
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Had mine dynod last weekend .. Uk2000 awd running standard td04 , new walbro pump and straight through exhaust got a graph some were its preaty bang on even
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Originally Posted by banny sti
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Some folk on this thread aint got a scooby doo lol
raggy ! is that you ?? :D |
Originally Posted by Gareth333
(Post 11879336)
Cheers guys for the info. I've heard of Murray motorsport. I'm having a bit of juddering/misfiring around 3000rpm waiting for leads to arrive. Once I sort the problem I will think about getting the map looked at
Used to live in Wicklow, ROI so I know what a pain it is finding reputable people to work on a Subaru. Lot of lads make the mistake of going to places that'll map anything, then wonder why they need a new engine or have running issues shortly after. Other person to look up is Pete Simmonds, he's mapped a fair few newage Imprezas over there that I know of, and is an ecutek mapper, but not sure if he does apexi tho. Scoobyireland facebook page is a good place for advice. |
[QUOTE=TypeR99;11879379]Get it map checked by someone who knows what theyre looking at before replacing random parts chasing a misfire. A lot of lads get the ferry to Scotland and go and see Andy Forrest for a map.
Used to live in Wicklow, ROI so I know what a pain it is finding reputable people to work on a Subaru. Lot of lads make the mistake of going to places that'll map anything, then wonder why they need a new engine or have running issues shortly after. Other person to look up is Pete Simmonds, he's mapped a fair few newage Imprezas over there that I know of, and is an ecutek mapper, but not sure if he does apexi tho. Scoobyireland facebook page is a good place for advice.[/QUOTE I'm going to give Murray Motorsport a call see what he says. 2 of the leads where wore through the outter sleeve so definitely need replacing. I don't like turning my back on the fella that mapped it before he maps loads of motors and has good results could be a problem with my motor or as you say could be a problem with the map. Cheers for the info |
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