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JTaylor 01 July 2016 11:02 PM

Who's the artist?
 
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...f62b80e49.jpeg

Scooby.Newbie 01 July 2016 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853805)

Mr Taylor, this may bet the pale emperor, or the guy that was never in the Wonder Years?

albob 01 July 2016 11:31 PM

is the pale emperor Marilyn Manson ??

Scooby.Newbie 01 July 2016 11:40 PM


Originally Posted by albob (Post 11853814)
is the pale emperor Marilyn Manson ??


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...372669f3a7.png

And this?

hodgy0_2 02 July 2016 12:04 AM

Marilyn Manson

Ahh beaten to it

JTaylor 02 July 2016 05:34 AM

Correct. One of my pastor's favourite pieces of art. Weird eh? :freak3:

yabbadoo4 02 July 2016 10:37 AM

i thought it was prince?

neil-h 02 July 2016 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853836)
Correct. One of my pastor's favourite pieces of art. Weird eh? :freak3:

It's true what they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.

Turbohot 02 July 2016 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11853890)
It's true what they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.


LOL :D

JTaylor 02 July 2016 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by neil-h (Post 11853890)
It's true what they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.


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neil-h 02 July 2016 12:57 PM

Have to say he makes a very good point. Although that being said, when appreciating a piece of art one often reflects on the motivation of the artist whilst making the piece.

As a side, a lot the behaviour/imagery used by Manson was purely for a stage persona. The man behind that is actually quite normal :lol1:

Turbohot 02 July 2016 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853911)

Perhaps the pastor didn't know that the art was produced by a Satanist.

He perhaps does know they by now, therefore, all he has to do is ask for God's forgiveness each time he feels anything great about that art. God will forgive him every time. :thumb:

Turbohot 02 July 2016 01:14 PM

Oh, charge your phone. 7% charge remaining is a disgrace! Get yourself a power bank, they're only cheap these days. :D

Turbohot 02 July 2016 01:28 PM

I'd also like to say that divorcing a product from the author is a liberating thought but the product is a reflection of the author; that's if it's an honest one. Therefore, the author can not be excluded from the product. Specially with a piece of such an endogenous art.

JTaylor 02 July 2016 01:52 PM

I find myself in agreement with Swati. I think the Pastor's assertion that one must "divorce the product from the author" is convenient in this instance and wrong. The art is the author, otherwise it's fraudulent, a facsimile.

JTaylor 02 July 2016 01:56 PM


Originally Posted by Turbohot (Post 11853929)
Perhaps the pastor didn't know that the art was produced by a Satanist.

He perhaps does know they by now, therefore, all he has to do is ask for God's forgiveness each time he feels anything great about that art. God will forgive him every time. :thumb:

He did and does. Though Manson isn't a theistic Satanist and that's fairly key. Theistic Satanists are particularly sinister. Literally. ;)

Turbohot 02 July 2016 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853962)
He did and does. Though Manson isn't a theistic Satanist and that's fairly key. Theistic Satanists are particularly sinister. Literally. ;)

Ok. MM must be a pretend Satanist; kind of metaphorically, I guess.

However, that doesn't cut it. If one likes a Satanist art form, there is an identification with that art form. In my view, accepting that one is merely a human with some Satan and some God in him/her is much more realistic than having to ask for God's forgiveness for something as innocent. One has a right to be somewhat Satanic. :cool:

JTaylor 02 July 2016 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by Turbohot (Post 11853966)
Ok. MM must be a pretend Satanist; kind of metaphorically, I guess.

He is a Satanist, just not a theistic Satanist.


However, that doesn't cut it. If one likes a Satanist art form, there is an identification with that art form. In my view, accepting that one is merely a human with some Satan and some God in him/her is much more realistic than having to ask for God's forgiveness for something as innocent. One has a right to be somewhat Satanic. :cool:
We're all fallen, but Christ's disciples are commanded to become imitators of Christ and that involves shedding, through prayer and other rites, the old man.

Turbohot 02 July 2016 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853977)
He is a Satanist, just not a theistic Satanist.

Ok.




We're all fallen, but Christ's disciples are commanded to become imitators of Christ and that involves shedding, through prayer and other rites, the old man.
Ok.

Turbohot 02 July 2016 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by JTaylor (Post 11853959)
I find myself in agreement with Swati. I think the Pastor's assertion that one must "divorce the product from the author" is convenient in this instance and wrong. The art is the author, otherwise it's fraudulent, a facsimile.

Yes.


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