Who's the artist?
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is the pale emperor Marilyn Manson ??
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Originally Posted by albob
(Post 11853814)
is the pale emperor Marilyn Manson ??
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...372669f3a7.png And this? |
Marilyn Manson
Ahh beaten to it |
Correct. One of my pastor's favourite pieces of art. Weird eh? :freak3:
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i thought it was prince?
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11853836)
Correct. One of my pastor's favourite pieces of art. Weird eh? :freak3:
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11853890)
It's true what they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11853890)
It's true what they say, the Lord works in mysterious ways.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...630941ca8e.png |
Have to say he makes a very good point. Although that being said, when appreciating a piece of art one often reflects on the motivation of the artist whilst making the piece.
As a side, a lot the behaviour/imagery used by Manson was purely for a stage persona. The man behind that is actually quite normal :lol1: |
He perhaps does know they by now, therefore, all he has to do is ask for God's forgiveness each time he feels anything great about that art. God will forgive him every time. :thumb: |
Oh, charge your phone. 7% charge remaining is a disgrace! Get yourself a power bank, they're only cheap these days. :D
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I'd also like to say that divorcing a product from the author is a liberating thought but the product is a reflection of the author; that's if it's an honest one. Therefore, the author can not be excluded from the product. Specially with a piece of such an endogenous art.
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I find myself in agreement with Swati. I think the Pastor's assertion that one must "divorce the product from the author" is convenient in this instance and wrong. The art is the author, otherwise it's fraudulent, a facsimile.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
(Post 11853929)
Perhaps the pastor didn't know that the art was produced by a Satanist.
He perhaps does know they by now, therefore, all he has to do is ask for God's forgiveness each time he feels anything great about that art. God will forgive him every time. :thumb: |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11853962)
He did and does. Though Manson isn't a theistic Satanist and that's fairly key. Theistic Satanists are particularly sinister. Literally. ;)
However, that doesn't cut it. If one likes a Satanist art form, there is an identification with that art form. In my view, accepting that one is merely a human with some Satan and some God in him/her is much more realistic than having to ask for God's forgiveness for something as innocent. One has a right to be somewhat Satanic. :cool: |
Originally Posted by Turbohot
(Post 11853966)
Ok. MM must be a pretend Satanist; kind of metaphorically, I guess.
However, that doesn't cut it. If one likes a Satanist art form, there is an identification with that art form. In my view, accepting that one is merely a human with some Satan and some God in him/her is much more realistic than having to ask for God's forgiveness for something as innocent. One has a right to be somewhat Satanic. :cool: |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11853977)
He is a Satanist, just not a theistic Satanist.
We're all fallen, but Christ's disciples are commanded to become imitators of Christ and that involves shedding, through prayer and other rites, the old man. |
Originally Posted by JTaylor
(Post 11853959)
I find myself in agreement with Swati. I think the Pastor's assertion that one must "divorce the product from the author" is convenient in this instance and wrong. The art is the author, otherwise it's fraudulent, a facsimile.
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