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salsa-king 10 April 2016 03:03 PM

Idiots guide to fitting wheel nuts - McGard Black Edition's
 
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For a while I've wanted to swap my OE chrome wheel nuts to something better as they are starting to look tired. After seeing the write ups about alloy nuts sheering off I knew I wanted quality. The only ones to go for are McGard - obviously IMO.

When I went to the International Autosports show at the NEC earlier this year I came across the*McGard stand,*where I soon asked about their wheel nuts for my Subaru STi 330s which I wanted in Black.

A deal was hammered out for a FULL set (inc wheel locking nut) of the Black Edition that were subaru fitment.

Today I've had chance to fit them.

So here you go with an idiots guide to swapping your OE ones for the new Black Edition's.

Attachment 35537

Start with removing the OE locking nut
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to be on the safe side use some lube/oil so you can get them off either next time round
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1st one fitted.
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2nd one will be the opposite side, then the 3rd opposite to that one.
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4th & 5th again done as opposing sides like doing the ones previous
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Don't forget to*Torque*them up to just a shade under 100Nm
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I just need to full detail my car now ready for the show season ;)

hedgecutter 10 April 2016 06:28 PM

Yeah, you really let the side down with those dirty wheels:norty:
Good guide though; do they do just the locking nuts on their own?

salsa-king 10 April 2016 10:42 PM

car was washed once they were fitted. I wiped them out as I removed each one of the old OE nuts :)

you can buy just the locking nuts.
http://www.halfords.com/motoring/car...l-nuts-24152su

salsa-king 11 February 2019 09:01 PM

https://www.performancealloys.com/mc...t-kit-84862sub

you can still get these nutts

Rusti 28 September 2020 03:09 PM

Hey @salsa-king how are these holding up after 18 months + of wear and tear?

salsa-king 28 September 2020 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rusti (Post 12090303)
Hey @salsa-king how are these holding up after 18 months + of wear and tear?

@Rusti Like new, they still look shiny black gloss.

Unlike cheaper ones on my Forester that seemed to go a flat dry matt finish.

hedgecutter 29 September 2020 07:40 AM

The real question is how many miles have those nuts driven? I'm betting not more than 1000.

Don Clark 29 September 2020 12:19 PM


Originally Posted by hedgecutter (Post 12090324)
The real question is how many miles have those nuts driven? I'm betting not more than 1000.

:lol1:

The benefit of McGard wheel nuts is that you have a lifetime guarantee.
Register the items at McGard Europe and if any corrode you can return them for replacement.
I had half a set of Chrome spline drives on my previous Forester replaced FOC.
Both my "Black Chrome" spline drive sets (one plain set - winter use, and one set branded STI - summer set) are almost like new still, having been purchased back in 2011/12
Car now at just under 63k miles.

The only visible sign of corrosion I've seen is with the security nuts, where the lock pattern is cut into it for the locking nut tool and then it's only light surface rust.

Rusti 29 September 2020 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Don Clark (Post 12090341)
:lol1:

The benefit of McGard wheel nuts is that you have a lifetime guarantee.
Register the items at McGard Europe and if any corrode you can return them for replacement.
I had half a set of Chrome spline drives on my previous Forester replaced FOC.
Both my "Black Chrome" spline drive sets (one plain set - winter use, and one set branded STI - summer set) are almost like new still, having been purchased back in 2011/12
Car now at just under 63k miles.

The only visible sign of corrosion I've seen is with the security nuts, where the lock pattern is cut into it for the locking nut tool and then it's only light surface rust.

That is great customer service and faith in their product, If only I could get hold of the STI ones in the UK cant seem to find them anywhere!

Don Clark 29 September 2020 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by Rusti (Post 12090344)
That is great customer service and faith in their product, If only I could get hold of the STI ones in the UK cant seem to find them anywhere!

The days of the £99 set is long gone - surprised Scoobyworld still have them on their website.
The slightly more expensive ones in either black gold or blue are still available, as are the full kits (with locking nuts and box ST28170ST060) but not in the UK.

https://www.japanparts.com/parts/detail/11657


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...760737b2a0.png

https://www.sti.jp/en/parts/wrxsti_v.../ST28170ST000/
https://www.sti.jp/en/parts/wrxsti_v.../ST28170ST060/


Rusti 29 September 2020 03:53 PM

Thanks Don, I will probably get a set through Japanparts, not sure I understand the need for the more expensive ones with a locking wheel nut, surely the splines are enough of a deterrent?

Don Clark 29 September 2020 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by Rusti (Post 12090352)
Thanks Don, I will probably get a set through Japanparts, not sure I understand the need for the more expensive ones with a locking wheel nut, surely the splines are enough of a deterrent?

Belt and braces :) relatively easy to get hold of the spline adapter.
https://www.performancealloys.com/se...uners-25354sub

Maybe worth enquiring with Scoobyworld as to what/when/if available from them.
http://scoobyworld.co.uk/catalog/pro...2rp2nnmrjt8m15

hedgecutter 29 September 2020 08:28 PM

Yes, I thought them expensive until I considered that my £80 generics rusted in a year, so they're good value

salsa-king 05 March 2022 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Rusti (Post 12090303)
Hey @salsa-king how are these holding up after 18 months + of wear and tear?


still looking like new ;)

fpan 05 March 2022 02:59 PM

I wouldn't put oil on the thread of the wheel nuts.

hedgecutter 05 March 2022 07:26 PM

I got a set of these about 16 months ago and they've already gone flat looking and lost their gloss. There was no mention of a guarantee either when they came. Not impressed considering the price.
Oil on lug nuts at 100nm is questionable as well, as you should torque 10% less, and 100nm is already quite high.

Don Clark 05 March 2022 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by hedgecutter (Post 12118090)
I got a set of these about 16 months ago and they've already gone flat looking and lost their gloss. There was no mention of a guarantee either when they came. Not impressed considering the price.
Oil on lug nuts at 100nm is questionable as well, as you should torque 10% less, and 100nm is already quite high.

Re: Guarantee

I purchased a chrome tuner installation kit back in March 2005 for my Forester and had all 16 nut replaced under guarantee in 2008.
The final part of the email conversation with McGard.de.......

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...12ea41b35e.png

HOWEVER, reading their current website info it looks as if the "lifetime" guarantee may have now been reduced to 2 years for individual purchases ( assuming you have registered the purchase with McGard).

Not sure what you are intimating with "100nm is already quite high"

100Nm - standard torque setting for MY08 onwards. Earlier models 90Nm.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...3a78cf9999.png





The Joshua Tree 06 March 2022 08:57 AM

I need to buy some wheel nuts fpor my Sti Hatch to replace the tacky, colour flaking off ones that the previous owner installed. I was getting interested in these McGard ones until Hedge said they are now flat looking and have lost their gloss, plus it doesn't seem like they have a lifetime warranty anymore from the posts above.

Are the OEM wheel nuts any good ?

hedgecutter 06 March 2022 09:30 AM

Not sure what you are intimating with "100nm is already quite high"
Quite right Don, apologies, posting late on Fridays never a good idea.

But just to add, mine were marked from new solely from rubbing on the plastic packaging, had to be replaced by Japanparts, so they certainly aren't tough.

Don Clark 06 March 2022 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by The Joshua Tree (Post 12118103)
I need to buy some wheel nuts fpor my Sti Hatch to replace the tacky, colour flaking off ones that the previous owner installed. I was getting interested in these McGard ones until Hedge said they are now flat looking and have lost their gloss, plus it doesn't seem like they have a lifetime warranty anymore from the posts above.

Are the OEM wheel nuts any good ?

Yes the OEM nuts are good, it just depends on the wheels you have fitted.
Some require the smaller diameter "tuner" nuts.
Have both a set of the "STI marked black chrome spline nuts (summer wheels) and a set of the plain black chrome spline nuts (winter wheels) purchased in 2011 and both sets are still in good condition.


The Joshua Tree 06 March 2022 10:16 AM


Originally Posted by Don Clark (Post 12118106)
Yes the OEM nuts are good, it just depends on the wheels you have fitted.
Some require the smaller diameter "tuner" nuts.
Have both a set of the "STI marked black chrome spline nuts (summer wheels) and a set of the plain black chrome spline nuts (winter wheels) purchased in 2011 and both sets are still in good condition.

Hi Don, the wheels i'm using are Prodrive GT1, 18 inch, 114.3, 8.5J and i think the ET is 53. Do you have a part number on the OEM nuts for my setup below, thanks


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...154144b1d7.jpg


fpan 06 March 2022 12:48 PM

@The Joshua Tree , as posted https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...heel-nuts.html
McGard ones, and a bargain price!
I recently accidentally damaged 2 of the wheel locking nuts as I didn't place it correctly and I bought a replacement set (4 locking nuts and a key) for £30 from McGard (with the same code)
These are the ones I have:

Don Clark 06 March 2022 01:23 PM


Originally Posted by The Joshua Tree (Post 12118107)
Hi Don, the wheels i'm using are Prodrive GT1, 18 inch, 114.3, 8.5J and i think the ET is 53. Do you have a part number on the OEM nuts for my setup below, thanks

Standard OEM wheel nuts are currently 28171AJ000

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...cd66a9a590.png

Standard fit UK (manufactured by McGard) lock nuts are SACC2160

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...6a796af2f5.png




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