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I meant total output of everything ( economy) COB
I wonder when we'll finish sending them aid |
I just wonder how long into the future we can trade on heritage and being some stable for foreigners to stash their cash .
Saw program few nights ago ,some Beijing estate agents flogging off London and now Brighton - 800 % increase in interest just this last 12 months .. Couple months ago dropped girlfriends daughter/family Heathrow . They were clingfilming bags , cos they were bound for S.A. .. In the queue were some dainty Chinese ladies ready to wrap their newly purchased goods in Selfridges cardboard carrier bags - 30 quid each Couldn't believe it , maybe they contained diamonds - more likely some heritage tat God only knows how the ordinary uk folk will survive / what the place will look like in another 25 years/ generation time |
Andy: don't fall for the left-wing bull**** about cheap Chinese steel. It's NOT subsidised either.
There is just EXPENSIVE UK steel, cuased by higher energy prices, green taxes, eco-add-ons etc etc. If we were no longer in the EU we could get rid of most of the problems, and ours would be cheaper. VOTE OUT ON THE 23rd!!! |
Steel imported from China, amounts of which are very limited, has little to do with the predicament of the UK’s steel industry. In both volume and value, steel from China makes up only a fraction of the UK’s total steel imports.
In 2015, for example, of the UK’s 6.66m tons of imports, only 11pc, or 760,000 tons, were from China. If put in value, that was $457m, only 7.6pc of the $5.98bn total. Moreover, steel products from China are mostly low value-added, such as ordinary steel rods and plates, which Britain no longer makes and would have to import from other countries anyway. Therefore, imports from China have no impact upon the British steel market. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11819639)
Andy: don't fall for the left-wing bull**** about cheap Chinese steel. It's NOT subsidised either.
There is just EXPENSIVE UK steel, cuased by higher energy prices, green taxes, eco-add-ons etc etc. If we were no longer in the EU we could get rid of most of the problems, and ours would be cheaper. VOTE OUT ON THE 23rd!!! |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819660)
We'd still be bound by Kyoto, so there's no reason to believe the green taxes etc will go away.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-keep-falling- |
I am not sure if it's been mentioned yet but with all the subsidies and incentives given to TATA Jaguar/Landrover perhaps UK Plc should insist on UK steel and parts being used in their products?
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So this new lot from the city , are they guaranteed not asset strippers ?
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Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11819784)
So this new lot from the city , are they guaranteed not asset strippers ?
Of course they are. They bought it for a quid. Says it all. MG-Rover all over again. Remember what RBS did when trying "save" struggling companies? |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11819704)
Germany seem to have both clean and cheap power
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...-keep-falling- |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819809)
That's because the bulk of Germany's electricity comes from low carbon/green sources. Where as the UK still heavily uses fossil fuels.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 11819812)
The UK have NIMBYs that soon stop green initiatives happening.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819815)
Yup, a short sightedness that causes all kinds of problems long term.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819809)
That's because the bulk of Germany's electricity comes from low carbon/green sources. Where as the UK still heavily uses fossil fuels.
According to this they are burning an awful lot of (dirty) lignite topped up by normal coal (and a steady stream of gas). Another big chunk is nuclear, but that is being phased out (after the panic about Fukushima). mb |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819660)
We'd still be bound by Kyoto, so there's no reason to believe the green taxes etc will go away.
We ASKED permission, the EU denied it and here we are..... |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11819809)
That's because the bulk of Germany's electricity comes from low carbon/green sources. Where as the UK still heavily uses fossil fuels.
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This is what I don't understand :wonder:
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Because THEY don't follow every EU rule/law or whatever unless it benefits THEM, plus the Paris agreement allows them to PAY for someone to have part of THEIR emissions quota, allowing them to emit more, while the country gaining their emissions and some cash, can emit less....and guess who are the suckers? yep...UK plc.
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