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pcressie 20 March 2016 12:09 PM

Log burners, let's see them
 
Thinking of having a clearview 500 8kw. Looking to keep it traditional to keep in keeping with the rest of the house. Trouble is when the extention was put on the chimney was lost, so we'll have to have a twin wall system. Has any body run theirs boxed in inside the house to try and heat the upstairs?

Going to put a fake chimney breast where the mirror is, roughly same width

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...02a848e2c2.jpg


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alcazar 20 March 2016 04:17 PM

Do as much research as you can, and get loads of quotes.

There's rogues out there.

Continental stoves are usually beter than UK ones...ours in France is a Hunter, and useless...every time I open the door to load it, bits of the fire fall out:rolleyes:

The twin-wall stuff is very expensive. Think of a hearth for it to stand on.

And lastly, can you source decent wood at a decent price and have somewhere decent to store it? You can't just burn anything on one.......

JackClark 20 March 2016 05:11 PM

Westfire One. **** picture, awesome stove.
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...4d5d86cc4.jpeg

S204Darren 20 March 2016 06:50 PM

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...176e74ada8.jpg

Our little beauty in the family room.

PaulC72 20 March 2016 09:11 PM

Get a professional in, the stove will need to be fitted correctly as will the flue and liners etc.

You should check if you are in a smoke free zone too as that will change what you can go for with a stove, we are and we have a 5kW multifuel (can burn certain coals and wood).

It'll need sweeping once a year but I would check as some require a 6 months or sooner sweep depending on what is being burnt / used.

It's not a job to have a cowboy do or do yourself as if done wrong you could die from carbon monoxide poisoning. (they should also fit a detector)

pcressie 20 March 2016 09:17 PM

Yeah don't worry it's not something I'd tackle. Got a good freind who fits them for a living. We're in smoke free zone. Some nice looking stoves. I take it its like everything in life you get what you pay for with burners. My other concern was that even though the room is long at 26 foot, at roughly 12 foot wide your going to be sat pretty close on the three seater settee. The hope is that the heat will go out of the French doors and into the dining room and heat that room as well

ScoobyWon't 21 March 2016 01:48 AM

I have an Aarow i400S (http://www.aradastoves.com/stoves/i400s).

We only want it to heat one room, so went for the smallest we could have as an inset. Our Newfoundland likes the rest of the house to be cold.

I got it half price too :)

njkmrs 21 March 2016 12:29 PM

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If I have attached picture right this one is a Franco Belge.
About 9kw I think from memory.


Looks like it did.
I will post another shortly of the one I have recently fitted in my man cave with a twin wall flue system.

merlin24 21 March 2016 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by S204Darren (Post 11811461)
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...176e74ada8.jpg

Our little beauty in the family room.

Nice log burner and I see the dog has the best spot too :D

Mick

hodgy0_2 21 March 2016 10:32 PM

we have a 9kw Yeomans Devon and it is brilliant

when at full chat the heat output is awesome

I reckon it saves me about 500 a year in heating Oil

S204Darren 21 March 2016 10:36 PM


Originally Posted by merlin24 (Post 11811917)
Nice log burner and I see the dog has the best spot too :D

Mick

Its a dogs life Mick! :thumb:

njkmrs 22 March 2016 12:59 PM

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And here is a 13kw burner in the shed.(much cheaper than the other but not used much yet so not sure how long it will last)
To be used as a bit of a patio heater on cooler summer evenings.(yes most of them !).
Will leave doors open and use a fan to blow warm air out.

hodgy0_2 22 March 2016 01:53 PM

yes, I like that internal flew

we have had some work done on our house recently and think of puuting another log burner in - but freestanding like that one

looks good nkjmrs


or thinking about it could just relocate our patio heater indoors lol

njkmrs 22 March 2016 02:01 PM

Hi Hodgy,
Cheers,
very easy to fit. Just sit each piece on top of each other and close the fixing clip to keep them tight together.
Double skinned but still gets a bit hot on the outside skin which allows some of the heat to be kept in the room as a bit of extra "bonus" heat..!
Closing plate at the top neatens up the exit through the shed roof. All nice and tidy.
Bought the granite from a local supplier to make the hearth.
Simples..

hodgy0_2 22 March 2016 02:17 PM

yes, I like the sound of that hot(ish) flew radiating all the heat

A trick my brother did in his house in Italy was to give his burner a cold air feed from outside, - so it draws cold air directly from outside

this means it does not suck the cold air through the room - makes a difference

njkmrs 22 March 2016 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11812121)
yes, I like the sound of that hot(ish) flew radiating all the heat

A trick my brother did in his house in Italy was to give his burner a cold air feed from outside, - so it draws cold air directly from outside

this means it does not suck the cold air through the room - makes a difference

Yep makes a lot of sense...
I put a vent in ,but to be honest 13kw in a 5m x 3.5m x 2.3m shed means I welcome the cool air being drawn in.
Otherwise im sat there in my undercrackers...!! Not good for the neighbours.
I did insulate the roof and floor so it holds the heat well.

LSherratt 22 March 2016 09:54 PM

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I've got a long running thread on Detailing World forums for log burners :).

Mine is a Contura 51L, rated 3-7kw. As you can see it's a modern/contemporary design which suits my house. A few months ago I bought an ecofan airmax and a temperature gauge for the flu pipe. The fan and gauge combined are a fantastic investment and they're a must-have accessory for any log burner user. They really help you get the most from your burner.

http://i1291.photobucket.com/albums/...pskapbrzmn.jpg

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I season and split all my own wood. Only a small pile at the moment but I've got 6 50ft conifers and 1 giant oak tree that will be coming down this summer so I'm going to have a huge amount of wood later.
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Seasoned pile stacked in my open port garage.
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Lots of info on http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...d.php?t=370752

njkmrs 23 March 2016 12:05 PM

Nice set up LSherratt.
Do you use a log splitter.
Saves a great deal of work.
I source all my own wood as well, as there's no point putting one in(wood burner) then buying your fuel !

hodgy0_2 23 March 2016 02:04 PM

yes I try and get wood where I can, as you say pointless paying

I have a chainsaw and trailer (and a 4x4) so can get off-road

and have a deal with a farmer to clear fallen trees

also a good tip I use for splitting is to attach a car tyre to the cutting block, that means the logs don't fly everywhere

oh and use a chopping maul not an axe

LSherratt 23 March 2016 02:44 PM

I use my fiskars x27 axe to split wood and it's very satisfying! I don't have any intention of buying a hydraulic splitter.

Hodgy, I've got an old car tyre screwed onto my stump now, that's just a slightly older picture as I don't have a recent one with the tyre attached.

hodgy0_2 23 March 2016 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by LSherratt (Post 11812501)
I use my fiskars x27 axe to split wood and it's very satisfying! I don't have any intention of buying a hydraulic splitter.

Hodgy, I've got an old car tyre screwed onto my stump now, that's just a slightly older picture as I don't have a recent one with the tyre attached.

yep good trick the old tyre thang - saves bruised shins etc

boosted 23 March 2016 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11811936)
we have a 9kw Yeomans Devon and it is brilliant

when at full chat the heat output is awesome

I reckon it saves me about 500 a year in heating Oil

You save 2000 litres of oil a year?! wow how big is your house?

boosted 23 March 2016 03:41 PM

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Ive given up burning "free" wood with ours, by the time you collect, cut with a petrol chainsaw, using chains, 2 stroke and petrol, taking time, then split with an axe or log splitter, using more fuel and time. then sore somewhere and tidy up the mess it makes (sawdust etc) it is far easier to have a few 50kg bags of smokeless coal delievered for £17 a bag, the coal lasts hours and hours on a fill (not like most wood).
I just sold my home built splitter because of this.
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hodgy0_2 23 March 2016 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by boosted (Post 11812514)
You save 2000 litres of oil a year?! wow how big is your house?

no about £500, obviously it is difficult to get accurately because the price of oil fluctuates

500 pounds represented the saving when oil was 65p a litre a few years ago

it is much cheaper now - 24p we last paid

we have quite a big house and a 2000litre tank

in fact at much less than 24p and your right wood is prob not worth it

but and a big but - all that hassle you describe in the post above I actually enjoy

I have a "desk" job so it gets me out in the country/garden, and like a little boy I still enjoy lighting the fire

LSherratt 23 March 2016 06:32 PM

I don't purposely light my burner and think to myself "I wonder how much oil I'm saving" because I know it's hardly worth it. The burner is just a very nice accessory to have. There's no way it could heat the whole house (downstairs and up) by itself. Of course it will save a bit as it certainly heats the living room, big hallway, and slightly the kitchen and stairs. In fact, I ordered 500L of oil at 0.27p this morning :lol1:.

If I wanted to rely completely on wood, I'd defiantly need another burner in the kitchen/diner which is 7x6m and then think how much wood, maintained and hassle you would spend to keep them going.

hodgy0_2 23 March 2016 07:25 PM

i'm quite lucky the way our house is configured the chimney goes through the centre of the house - so no outside walls

mines a 9KW and when I have it on full chat it chuck out an awesome amount of heat

I can heat the wall above it so that it gets too hot to touch

this means I can turn the radiators off in the sitting room, which means the boiler is nit working nearly has hard

njkmrs 23 March 2016 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by LSherratt (Post 11812501)
I use my fiskars x27 axe to split wood and it's very satisfying! I don't have any intention of buying a hydraulic splitter.

Hodgy, I've got an old car tyre screwed onto my stump now, that's just a slightly older picture as I don't have a recent one with the tyre attached.

I did start off with an axe and a grenade (metal diamond shape you knock into wood to split it) but in new wood it kept sticking and I spent more time rawling around with a lump stuck on the end of the axe.
The splitter splits this new wood no probs then I can leave it to dry.

Nothing better than sitting in front of the real fire smug as owt thinking its costing me nothing, other than a bit of hard work now and then.
(another desk jockey who needs some exercise.):D

stipete75 27 March 2016 01:44 AM

Our little burner, a dual door villager 5kw is more than enough to heat our whole downstairs. Being a builder I get enough free wood through the year to last us each winter.
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GWJ 27 March 2016 12:33 PM

How did you get your dogs to stick to the ceiling?

stipete75 27 March 2016 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by GWJ (Post 11813828)
How did you get your dogs to stick to the ceiling?

Are the bl00dy pics upside down?


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