End of an Era
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-35124077
What a strange world we live in when it's cheaper to ship coal from abroad than dig it out the ground a few miles away from where it could be burnt. They are leaving most of the equipment down below because it has no value. I've no connection with the mining industry, but what a sad day. |
Extraction is cheaper in other countries who open cast more than deep mine.
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Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815
(Post 11772757)
Extraction is cheaper in other countries who open cast more than deep mine.
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but you can't help thinking deep coal mining is a very 19th century industry
incredibly dirty and dangerous we sort of should be moving on to better energy generation and storage capabilities |
This wil come back to bite us in years to come, the power stations that use coal produce a HUGE amount of our power now.
Anyone remember the year of the power cuts? |
As above with coming back to bite us and when you import most stuff and are reliant on imports the supplier can name their own price or refuse to supply so britain is on a loser in my opinion.
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Agree, on all counts.
Is very sad to see another industry in the UK being shut down, irrespective of how clean it was, it supported whole communities, the same as the steel industry that has also just gone the same way. Interestingly, they have just opened up a tin and titanium mine in Cornwall. Am also amazed at the cost model, get that it is cheaper to get out the ground but has to take into account all the shipping and handling costs. Personally think that we should have gone nuclear years ago, or better still looked at energy reduction which would negate the need for extra power generation. There is a lot of waste out there, you only have to drive around London at night to see all the office lights left on when empty or drive past SwissTonys house to see what can be done :thumb: |
Same with food, when Jamie Oliver went around UK hospitals he found they were importing most of the food as they thought UK suppliers would cost more. Ended up buying local food for cheaper than importers could supply.
I'd prefer to pay abit extra to buy UK products. I buy my Potatoes from local supplier which works out cheaper than super markets. |
Originally Posted by Scooby.Newbie
(Post 11772793)
Agree, on all counts.
Is very sad to see another industry in the UK being shut down, irrespective of how clean it was, it supported whole communities, the same as the steel industry that has also just gone the same way. Interestingly, they have just opened up a tin and titanium mine in Cornwall. Am also amazed at the cost model, get that it is cheaper to get out the ground but has to take into account all the shipping and handling costs. Personally think that we should have gone nuclear years ago, or better still looked at energy reduction which would negate the need for extra power generation. There is a lot of waste out there, you only have to drive around London at night to see all the office lights left on when empty or drive past SwissTonys house to see what can be done :thumb: yes its an odd world when you can catch shell fish in Scotland ship them to Poland to be processed, then ship them back to Scotland to be sold in the supermarkets and presumably cheaper than doing it all in scotland |
I too believe that it will be something that will regretted in time to come, there's plenty of coal down there.
On another note, there's a factory near me which produces ice and ship it all over Europe :eek: |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11772776)
This wil come back to bite us in years to come, the power stations that use coal produce a HUGE amount of our power now.
Anyone remember the year of the power cuts? |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11772776)
This wil come back to bite us in years to come, the power stations that use coal produce a HUGE amount of our power now.
Anyone remember the year of the power cuts? Ahhhh those were the days. |
Absolutely devastating to the local communities.
I was listen to one of the miners on his very last shift saying that there is a slump in the price of coal, now it's at £30 in the 70's it was £27. This means that the utility companies are raking in huge profits because they are not charging 70's prices! Again it affects the generations who have worked there all their lives & know nothing else. There are young guys who were told they had jobs for life a few years ago with kids & mortgages.... what now! Such a sad sad day indeed in my book |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11772761)
but you can't help thinking deep coal mining is a very 19th century industry
incredibly dirty and dangerous we sort of should be moving on to better energy generation and storage capabilities |
Left school and went down the pit and my only regret is that the pits have been closed and we did not listen hard enough to arthur scargill.
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Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 11772916)
Agreed. The U.K. Coal industry has been on borrowed time for a while.
I echo the sadness expressed by posters at workers being tossed onto the scrap heap - with the associated social costs (financial and community) |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11772798)
yes its an odd world when you can catch shell fish in Scotland
ship them to Poland to be processed, then ship them back to Scotland to be sold in the supermarkets and presumably cheaper than doing it all in scotland But is green tech, am sure they carbon offset the air miles:freak3: |
I was listen to one of the miners on his very last shift saying that there is a slump in the price of coal, now it's at £30 in the 70's it was £27. This means that the utility companies are raking in huge profits because they are not charging 70's prices! |
Originally Posted by johned
(Post 11772934)
Left school and went down the pit and my only regret is that the pits have been closed and we did not listen hard enough to arthur scargill.
The Tories said thankyou very much and used it to shut the mines. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11773073)
Sadly, the truth is that you listened too hard to a man with an agenda which wasn't keeping mines open.:(
The Tories said thankyou very much and used it to shut the mines. |
Arthur Scargill wanted to rule the world, that was the problem.
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Originally Posted by jebi se
(Post 11773095)
Arthur Scargill wanted to rule the world, that was the problem.
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Originally Posted by jebi se
(Post 11773095)
Arthur Scargill wanted to rule the world, that was the problem.
Not sure about that, think that Thatcher sold out the minors and other industries. and worst of all stole our milk! Although my daughter gets free milk at school until she is five, so maybe we going back in time :luxhello: |
Harold macmillan`s speech on selling off the family silver was a true lesson in my opinion.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 11773072)
Thank Mrs Thatcher for that...all out utilities sold off for a Tory feelgood factor, now making gazillions for the shareholders and subsidising foreign energy bills.
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11772761)
but you can't help thinking deep coal mining is a very 19th century industry
incredibly dirty and dangerous we sort of should be moving on to better energy generation and storage capabilities |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 11773352)
Like nuclear perhaps?
I am happy to admit I don't know the answer |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11773392)
sure, I would be happy to see a proper informed debate about Nuclear (fusion and fission)
I am happy to admit I don't know the answer Fusion may get there one day but there are technological/physical/financial issues which will need to be overcame and that's without the wider economic argument about replacing fossil fuels. |
Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
(Post 11772761)
but you can't help thinking deep coal mining is a very 19th century industry
incredibly dirty and dangerous we sort of should be moving on to better energy generation and storage capabilities |
Originally Posted by johned
(Post 11773477)
Whats wrong with dirty and dangerous?.
in a woman |
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