Bought some wheels off eBay grrrrr..
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Well Mrs wanted a new set of wheels for her Mini Cooper S so bought these off eBay
Attachment 41633 Now problem is I've taken them to a wheel place to have tyres fitted where they've told me the wheels have been welded after being cracked!!! Attachment 41634 Now I've contacted the buyer as this was his description from the listing Attachment 41635 I've kindly asked him to refund me as he never mentioned they had previously been repaired which he's replied if I can provide a professional report saying they are unsafe then he's not willing to accept the return... What I want to know is after opening a case through eBay where would I stand with this one? I obviously don't want to keep the wheels and wouldn't dare put my wife and kids at risk with these but the guy insists they are safe :cuckoo: What would you guys suggest? Will I win the case through eBay for miss sold or not fit for purpose? Martin |
stick with it on eBay, mis sold as damage has not been declared
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Originally Posted by Cpt Jack Sparrow
(Post 11748904)
stick with it on eBay, mis sold as damage has not been declared
Martin |
They will make you return them at your cost though, had the same issue few yrs back
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Originally Posted by cuprajake
(Post 11748909)
They will make you return them at your cost though, had the same issue few yrs back
Infact I have his address I'll drive and deliver them personally Martin |
Originally Posted by M2RTXhawkeye
(Post 11748915)
Thats fine Jake I don't mind loosing out the £30 I paid him £260 for them..
Infact I have his address I'll drive and deliver them personally Martin |
Originally Posted by M2RTXhawkeye
(Post 11748896)
Well Mrs wanted a new set of wheels for her Mini Cooper S so bought these off eBay
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...86544D5785.png Now problem is I've taken them to a wheel place to have tyres fitted where they've told me the wheels have been welded after being cracked!!! http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...D0A9B84042.jpg Now I've contacted the buyer as this was his description from the listing http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/...F9BB8ADD9A.png I've kindly asked him to refund me as he never mentioned they had previously been repaired which he's replied if I can provide a professional report saying they are unsafe then he's not willing to accept the return... What I want to know is after opening a case through eBay where would I stand with this one? I obviously don't want to keep the wheels and wouldn't dare put my wife and kids at risk with these but the guy insists they are safe :cuckoo: What would you guys suggest? Will I win the case through eBay for miss sold or not fit for purpose? Martin The new eBay process is for buyers, for damaged or not as described good is. Set up a return process via eBay, seller has so many days to reply to provide a return label postage paid by seller, if he doesn't by the time frame, then you can ask eBay to step in and eBay will create a postage label at cost of buyer then you return free of charge and get refund on return. Do not open dispute in PayPal as you will have to pay return postage. It's a drawn out process but it's a good thing eBay have now done. Traders hate the new procedure lol. Seller has no choice in the matter lol |
Originally Posted by M2RTXhawkeye
(Post 11748915)
Thats fine Jake I don't mind loosing out the £30 I paid him £260 for them..
Infact I have his address I'll drive and deliver them personally Martin |
I can't really see the photo of the weld too clearly on my phone but it doesn't really look like a weld to me. Very messy. Looks a bit like corrosion under the coating and possibly the site of an old balancing weight?
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 11748995)
No, to get refund has to be done properly with proof of delivery sent into returns dispute.
Martin |
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Closer pic, I'll take some better ones.. The weld is like a patch covering up what was a crack... I'll take a pic of the front as you can tell it's had a bump.. The seller says he didt spot anything on them, which I think is lies as he knew they had been repaired. I think he was hoping the tyre place would not pick up on it and nothing would be said Martin |
I had a supra TT a few years back and after a year of ownership went to change the wheels for some others and when swapping tyres over the chaps at tyre place noticed the set on the car had been repaired / welded (just the 1). TO be fair I never noticed anything odd when driven and it balanced up straight and true and didnt lose air etc.
I did however advertise and sell them to a chap (and mentioned the repair in the ad) and he still bought them to use on his car. So I guess if repaired properly shouldnt be too much of an issue - However the pic you give looks a little rough for a repair. As mentioned looks more like paint bubbles. |
Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
(Post 11748994)
Nope.
The new eBay process is for buyers, for damaged or not as described good is. Set up a return process via eBay, seller has so many days to reply to provide a return label postage paid by seller, if he doesn't by the time frame, then you can ask eBay to step in and eBay will create a postage label at cost of buyer then you return free of charge and get refund on return. Do not open dispute in PayPal as you will have to pay return postage. It's a drawn out process but it's a good thing eBay have now done. Traders hate the new procedure lol. Seller has no choice in the matter lol |
it doesn't look like weld tbh, more like rust under the paint, if you could take a picture of the inside the rim from the other side where is the patch, if it's smooth then it's not a weld :-)
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Hi,
Don't forget - if he is a trader then under the distance selling regulations - you can return and get a refund just because you don't like goods - they don't even need to be faulty. Is he registered as a private seller or as a trader? If registered as a private seller - check his sale history and feedback to see what else he has sold in last 12 months. If it is obvious from his history that he is a trader but registered as private seller - then you can take some action with this regard - if he does not play ball! Best of luck Steve |
I have had a couple of alloy wheels welded and the finish was far far neater than what is shown in your picture. I guess it could just be a poor finish.
It might be worth getting a second opinion on whether the wheel has actually been welded |
Don't worry mate you'll get your money back as item not as described simple and when eBay step in they can check all messages safe or unsafe item is NOT AS DESCRIBED simples you don't need a report he is full of Shiite trying to waste time hope all goes well as eBay favours buyers 100% and as said on the thread you won't have to pay postage costs neither as eBay will sort it and he has no choice and your money's safe don't leave any feedback till issue is resolved neither good luck
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Originally Posted by M2RTXhawkeye
(Post 11749024)
Closer pic, I'll take some better ones.. The weld is like a patch covering up what was a crack... I'll take a pic of the front as you can tell it's had a bump.. The seller says he didt spot anything on them, which I think is lies as he knew they had been repaired. I think he was hoping the tyre place would not pick up on it and nothing would be said Martin
Do the wheels appear to have been painted? |
As has already been stated above, eBay is on the side of the buyer.
You don't have to provide any proof, never mind a professional report about the damage. If your tyre place says they've been repaired and his advert didn't say that, you're in a no lose place. Stick with the eBay dispute you've raised, eventually you'll get a refund plus a paid for return label. |
Originally Posted by piehole1983
(Post 11749072)
Can you get one of the other side of that patch? I'm still not sure that's a weld. The crack would go right to the edge of the rim and there'd be evidence of welding there too, which from what I can see, there's not.
Do the wheels appear to have been painted? Martin |
Was that £260 for each wheel or for the set of 4? £60 ish a wheel?
Shaun |
Originally Posted by Midlife......
(Post 11749434)
Was that £260 for each wheel or for the set of 4? £60 ish a wheel?
Shaun Martin |
Start the return process now as it takes bloody ages to sort
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Any more photos?
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eBay are now aware and will only step in on the 26th October.
Not had time to take pics but the pic I've put up is just of the one wheel I've seen not even checked the others.. Martin |
Personally I wouldn't trust welding cast aluminium, it's weird metal to work with. That's not saying it can't be done, but doing so does change the molecular structure of the metal in the repaired area, consequently the wheel's strength is unknown/unmeasurable apart from that it will be weaker than a new undamaged wheel.
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260 for 4 seems quite cheap, i know the seller is an arsehole for doing that, but if the other three are good would it not pay you to source a single wheel and just be done with it (scrapping that 'un) or are those wheels found in sets for similar money all day long?
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Why does it matter? Its on the inside and if anyone ever sees it then you have bigger worries because you have just run them over. lol
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Sign of the times,everyone is out to shaft each other,hope you get a refund .........
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 11750106)
Personally I wouldn't trust welding cast aluminium, it's weird metal to work with. That's not saying it can't be done, but doing so does change the molecular structure of the metal in the repaired area, consequently the wheel's strength is unknown/unmeasurable apart from that it will be weaker than a new undamaged wheel.
Originally Posted by riiidaa
(Post 11750115)
260 for 4 seems quite cheap, i know the seller is an arsehole for doing that, but if the other three are good would it not pay you to source a single wheel and just be done with it (scrapping that 'un) or are those wheels found in sets for similar money all day long?
Originally Posted by rb5 stu
(Post 11750120)
Why does it matter? Its on the inside and if anyone ever sees it then you have bigger worries because you have just run them over. lol
To be honest it's not even about the money, it's more principal now.. How people think it's acceptable to mug others off for the sake of a few quid :Whatever_ |
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