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14500rpm 14 September 2015 02:55 PM

Identifying Bilstein Coilovers on Blobeye Wagon...
 
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Hello All,

I have these coilovers on my Blobeye wagon and wondered if anyone knows what they are? I've Googled the part number on them and not got much back. I don't think they are anything exotic as they don't appear to be adjustable apart from height. Does anybody recognise them?

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BBB3 14 September 2015 03:08 PM

They are B14 by the look of them, they are a awesome kit for the money.

I have them on my hawk spec c, they don't come with top mount but that don't mean they are not great better than any other coilovers for the money.

14500rpm 14 September 2015 04:57 PM


Originally Posted by BBB3 (Post 11736866)
They are B14 by the look of them, they are a awesome kit for the money.

I have them on my hawk spec c, they don't come with top mount but that don't mean they are not great better than any other coilovers for the money.

Yep I thought they probably were but the Nurburgring stickers and the number on them made me wonder as it didn't show up in any of the pics I could find. I think these ones are past their best as they are knocking at the rear and the ride isn't great (maybe due to their age) so I'm thinking about getting them refurbed or swapping them out for some KYB's and springs :wonder:

BBB3 14 September 2015 05:38 PM

get them refurbed, you sure its not the rear top mounts knocking?

BBB3 14 September 2015 05:41 PM

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these are mine...

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14500rpm 14 September 2015 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by BBB3 (Post 11736948)
get them refurbed, you sure its not the rear top mounts knocking?

I thought that too so fitted new ones but it hasn't helped unfortunately, the car was ok until I fitted the shocks so the ARB bushes, etc. must be fine. How do you find the ride with them on your car? Mine seems ok but not great, I'm wondering how much is down to them needing a refurb and how much is just how they are.

BBB3 14 September 2015 11:44 PM

I find them spot on for a road car and there are a few on here running them now.

2pot 15 September 2015 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by 14500rpm (Post 11737101)
I thought that too so fitted new ones but it hasn't helped unfortunately, the car was ok until I fitted the shocks so the ARB bushes, etc. must be fine. How do you find the ride with them on your car? Mine seems ok but not great, I'm wondering how much is down to them needing a refurb and how much is just how they are.

Good for smooth, flat roads, But, not as compliant as a quality strut on uneven, undulating roads.

Post 20 sums it up, in the link below.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...e-heights.html

14500rpm 17 September 2015 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 11737350)
Good for smooth, flat roads, But, not as compliant as a quality strut on uneven, undulating roads.

Post 20 sums it up, in the link below.

https://www.scoobynet.com/suspension...e-heights.html

Road quality is not the best around here so might be wise to go for some of those repro Prodrive springs and a set of KYB Excels instead, and sell the Bilsteins on.

2pot 17 September 2015 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by 14500rpm (Post 11738559)
Road quality is not the best around here so might be wise to go for some of those repro Prodrive springs and a set of KYB Excels instead, and sell the Bilsteins on.

Good idea.

Don't know if a re-valve, by Chevron, might also be worth investigating?

Posted by InTurbo, in a similar thread:
"Speak to Simon at chevron of Stafford.
He can build custom B14 kit that has extra droop and bump travel, much more suited for uk roads and they cost no more than the standard B14's
01785 223336"

Obviously the above is referencing new struts, but worth a call?

BBB3 17 September 2015 09:12 PM

I find my B14's sport on for normal roads and country roads.

Speak to chevron

2pot 17 September 2015 09:54 PM


Originally Posted by 14500rpm (Post 11738559)
Road quality is not the best around here so might be wise to go for some of those repro Prodrive springs and a set of KYB Excels instead, and sell the Bilsteins on.

Just a thought, are your Bilsteins wagon specific?
If not you'll have lost 50% of the front negative camber - even using the camber adjustment bolts.

And, found this:

"I was also considering running Whiteline adjustable caster/camber tops to compensate for the front but it wouldn't solve the binding problems.
The reason is that the sedan clevis tab thingus stretches out further for the wider track, and putting it into a narrower wagon track forces the strut shaft in against the inside of the strut in a way that binds it:"
http://jamalb.net/gallery/d/5158-1/comparison.jpg

14500rpm 17 September 2015 11:44 PM

Good find on the possible binding, the Bilsteins were fitted to my first WRX (also a wagon) when I bought it and I just swapped them over to the current one, so no idea if they are wagon specific.

CBA getting involved in re-valving them as there is a high possibility I still wouldn't like them afterwards either. I must be getting old as ride is more important to me these days, and the car is never going on the track so a nice comfy road setup that doesn't spill my Ovaltine is the way forwards :lol1:

Ste333 18 September 2015 08:31 AM


Originally Posted by 2pot (Post 11738731)
Just a thought, are your Bilsteins wagon specific?
If not you'll have lost 50% of the front negative camber - even using the camber adjustment bolts.

And, found this:

"I was also considering running Whiteline adjustable caster/camber tops to compensate for the front but it wouldn't solve the binding problems.
The reason is that the sedan clevis tab thingus stretches out further for the wider track, and putting it into a narrower wagon track forces the strut shaft in against the inside of the strut in a way that binds it:"
http://jamalb.net/gallery/d/5158-1/comparison.jpg


Where did you find that mate? That's quite interesting about the wagon binding.... as I have a pretty much brand new HSD kit on my wagon (which isnt GGA specific) and I keep getting a bit of spring bind. We've changed the top bearings because thought they were the problem initially, and it does seem to have improved a bit since. But I still get a bit of bind on both the front left and front right.

2pot 18 September 2015 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by Ste333 (Post 11738827)
Where did you find that mate? That's quite interesting about the wagon binding.... as I have a pretty much brand new HSD kit on my wagon (which isnt GGA specific) and I keep getting a bit of spring bind. We've changed the top bearings because thought they were the problem initially, and it does seem to have improved a bit since. But I still get a bit of bind on both the front left and front right.

https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/fo...n/84691/page1/

hth

Ste333 18 September 2015 09:15 AM

thanks mate


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