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silver-sub 23 August 2015 01:10 PM

No more Met Office
 
Met office loses contract with the BBC, it was never very accurate anyway.
I wonder who will replace it? Reports saying maybe a foreign company.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...sting-contract

hodgy0_2 23 August 2015 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by silver-sub (Post 11727580)
it was never very accurate anyway.

what do you base that on?

Actual evidence - or just a "feeling"

Tony Harrington 23 August 2015 02:58 PM

I generally found it pretty accurate personally.

silver-sub 23 August 2015 03:22 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11727604)
what do you base that on?

Actual evidence - or just a "feeling"

Just personal experience.
Have ruined a few weekends away reading the forecast.

hodgy0_2 23 August 2015 03:32 PM

Obviously the further away the forecast the less accurate it will be

But that time/accuracy has been increased in the last 10 or so years

In reality with current technology/models the very maximum they can forecast, which any degree of confidence, is 5 days in the future, anything after that is increasingly speculative

In years past it was only 2 or 3 days

Personally (I am a sailor so have a strong interest) they are very good - they not only do a general forecast but much more focused and specialised ones - for sailing / flying

Today they had been spot on - said it would rain (where I am) at 2 o'clock and that is exactly what happened

wrx300scooby 23 August 2015 06:25 PM

I'm with silver sub on this one, I too have found their forecasts all too often unreliable.

ALi-B 23 August 2015 06:48 PM

LOL, the chairmen in the old boys/golf club must have had a falling out. Alcazar will be jumping about with glee :D I do have to admit why the the BBC or any other channel at that have so many different weather presenters; just use the news reader instead.

Just need the same to happen to the TV licensing authority (outdated money for the old boys establishment that can be easily be replaced via encryption and CAM modules using subscription smart cards; most decent TVs have a CAM slot for this purpose)

hodgy0_2 23 August 2015 07:23 PM

lol, with Alcazar's luck they will give the job to the same people the Daily Express use

BoozyDave 23 August 2015 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by wrx300scooby (Post 11727675)
I'm with silver sub on this one, I too have found their forecasts all too often unreliable.

I'd agree too.
On BBC news it says one thing, then on 'look north' it says something else :(

we have cancelled days out or not done thing's after seeing the weather forecast, only for it to be a great day

dpb 23 August 2015 09:51 PM

Magic seaweed is your friend

ALi-B 24 August 2015 12:33 AM


Originally Posted by BoozyDave (Post 11727759)
I'd agree too.
On BBC news it says one thing, then on 'look north' it says something else :(

we have cancelled days out or not done thing's after seeing the weather forecast, only for it to be a great day



On the plus side; I've cancelled road trips in the Jag because of their forecasts. So they've saved me a few hundred quid in petrol :lol1:

legb4rsk 24 August 2015 01:31 PM

I was on the south coast this weekend.On Saturday they said it would be dry Sunday morning & then rain later in the afternoon.
In fact it was the complete opposite!

silver-sub 24 August 2015 01:42 PM

It has improved somewhat over the years, early days were terrible.
Reminds me of this famous c*ck up!


alcazar 24 August 2015 03:26 PM

Finished dancing.....but yes, never found them even interested except for London and the SE..so long as THOSE were OK.......

The Trooper 1815 24 August 2015 03:26 PM

Funnily enough many of the "independent" weather outlets get their source material from the Met Office.

The Met Office now own and run the most powerful weather forecasting and pattern prediction computers in the world. Just as the BBC go elsewhere, because of whinging license payers, the service they where receieving was getting better.

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/rel...e/2014/new-hpc

hodgy0_2 24 August 2015 04:10 PM

they also (off course) publish their data around forecast accuracy

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/about-us...racy/forecasts



"Global comparisons

The World Meteorological Organization compares similar statistics among national meteorological services around the world. These show that the Met Office is consistently one of the top two operational services in the world."

Turbohot 24 August 2015 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11727974)
Finished dancing.....but yes, never found them even interested except for London and the SE..so long as THOSE were OK.......

:Suspiciou

Now this thread is useless without your dancing vid in it. Please post it up. :lol1:

BoozyDave 24 August 2015 09:12 PM

I've been fibreglassing a roof today, you can't fibreglass if it's raining.

Last night the forecast said rain at 3pm, I thought we would have a decent day at it. This mornings forecast said rain at 1pm. I nearly cancelled the job. I didn't cancel and we got stuck in, keeping things covered up and working in smaller areas. The rain did come.....at 9pm!

It's not like they said 1pm yesterday and 3pm today (so acknowledging the rain was getting later)

it's been a fine day for fibreglassing, and we could have got loads more done and had less worries if they had said there would be a chance of rain from 6pm

:mad:

BoozyDave 25 August 2015 09:22 PM

today it said rain from 6pm, so thought we had a good day at fibreglassing.

it p1ssed it down at 2pm and ruined 10sq metres that had just been put down and wasn't cured.

dpb 03 September 2015 05:10 AM

What a shower!
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weat...et-Office.html

alcazar 03 September 2015 07:47 AM

But they apparently don't learn.

The last SIX Winter/Summer long range forecasts have been the EXACT opposite of what we actually got. Yet still, they spout their nonsense.

As my eldest says, "If you want to know what the weather is doing, look out the fookin window...."

jonc 03 September 2015 02:04 PM

This is more accurate and far more reliable than the Met Office.

http://www.crondallweather.co.uk/ima...er-stone-d.jpg

dpb 03 September 2015 02:08 PM

Ideal :thumb:

alcazar 03 September 2015 03:04 PM

Brilliant.

hodgy0_2 03 September 2015 05:45 PM

lol, i see the thickies are out in force

a forecast deals with the future - thats why it is called a "forecast" - and not simply "looking out the fooking window"

here we go

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forecasting

educate yourselves

markjmd 03 September 2015 06:03 PM

The latest genius idea these clowns have come up with (both Met Office and BBC) is to display symbols on their forecasts that don't even match the written description directly below them. This evening in my area for example, they have a row of 10 consecutive cloud symbols for each hour from now until 5am tomorrow morning, with the following text below:
"Showers will die away for a time this evening with some clear spells for a time. Becoming cloudier late in the night with further, mainly light showers likely, especially in the east"

Anyone loading the app or the webpage and just skimming over it quickly glance might very easily think "right, no rain or showers, don't need waterproofs", which is exactly what I did on Tuesday afternoon when they did the same thing, and got a light soaking as a result.

Who have they got in charge there, some teenage work-experience bod on their summer holidays? :cuckoo:

hodgy0_2 03 September 2015 06:30 PM

All ways best to read the text

I suspect the symbols/graphics are only really there for kids, the illiterate, and the stupid

They can never impart more than a very high level view

markjmd 03 September 2015 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11731976)
All ways best to read the text

I suspect the symbols/graphics are only really there for kids, the illiterate, and the stupid

They can never impart more than a very high level view

In actual fact, after just checking a minute ago, the app doesn't have a text description at all, so anyone using that can only rely on the symbols.

They have a symbol for showers, so if they're expecting some they should ****** well use it!

hodgy0_2 03 September 2015 07:07 PM

Lol, maybe it only rained in the "East", the weather symbol has to cover quite a wide area


Put a rain symbol on and you get the fvcktards in the west saying "I took an umbrella blah blah blah met office wrong again blah blah it did not rain here blah balh blah

The weather is complicated and does not work to a script

Best understood by grown ups

markjmd 03 September 2015 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11731996)
Lol, maybe it only rained in the "East", the weather symbol has to cover quite a wide area


Put a rain symbol on and you get the fvcktards in the west saying "I took an umbrella blah blah blah met office wrong again blah blah it did not rain here blah balh blah

The weather is complicated and does not work to a script

Best understood by grown ups

Yes, and a grown up would understand that these services have THREE different symbols, one for cloud, one for showers, and one for rain. Oddly though, you seem to be struggling with that concept. I wonder why that might be.


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