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dpb 05 August 2015 09:43 AM

Ted heath etc
 
http://theukdatabase.com/jimmy-savil...ile-yachtsmen/

What an appalling place we live in if even some of that is true

Blue by You 05 August 2015 12:19 PM

Jesus that is grim reading.
I find it almost impossible to comprehend the mindset of a person that could do this to anyone - let alone a child. How do you look yourself in the mirror with this on your conscience?

wayne9t9 05 August 2015 01:30 PM

Don`t see the point in investigating Ted Heath, he`s been dead 15 years and apparently whatever he did was 25 years ago. At least we can thank him for openening the doors for the European Union.

kevo10 05 August 2015 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by wayne9t9 (Post 11720430)
Don`t see the point in investigating Ted Heath, he`s been dead 15 years and apparently whatever he did was 25 years ago. At least we can thank him for openening the doors for the European Union.

Im only guessing ,but ,as with Saville and all the cronies he associated with, we may find Heath was in a similar situation, and he is just the tip of the iceberg. Im hoping im wrong, as behind every perpetrator , theres a victim and families to consider

legb4rsk 05 August 2015 06:14 PM


Originally Posted by wayne9t9 (Post 11720430)
Don`t see the point in investigating Ted Heath, he`s been dead 15 years and apparently whatever he did was 25 years ago. At least we can thank him for openening the doors for the European Union.


Unfortunately the victims of abuse can endure a lifetime of suffering,sometimes with tragic consequences. They are still out there.Should we forget about them?

S204Darren 05 August 2015 06:25 PM

These vile creatures were protected! Thats what makes me sick. Grim reading indeed, what those poor children must of been put through only God knows.

dpb 05 August 2015 06:40 PM

The disturbing thing is that , apparently these creatures are safe from investigation whilst they're alive

markjmd 05 August 2015 11:57 PM

Seriously nauseating stuff. I find myself wondering sometimes about what this says about the women in this country, if such rich and powerful people resort to predating on teenage kids to get their sexual kicks. Or does that just mean the problem is equally well hidden in other parts of the world?

kevo10 06 August 2015 07:13 AM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11720607)
The disturbing thing is that , apparently these creatures are safe from investigation whilst they're alive

Bloody amazing !!!!! if it was some person off a council estate im sure that wouldnt be the case.

stipete75 06 August 2015 07:37 PM


Originally Posted by dpb (Post 11720607)
The disturbing thing is that , apparently these creatures are safe from investigation whilst they're alive

Exactly this.
This goes right to the top, politicians, judges, actors, royalty etc etc.
Some very well known names in all the above circles being protected as we speak.

Paben 06 August 2015 08:07 PM

Heath's BG would have been with him night and day and even on his yacht, they should be able to affirm or deny any incorrect behaviour on his part.

Blue by You 07 August 2015 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11721126)
Heath's BG would have been with him night and day and even on his yacht, they should be able to affirm or deny any incorrect behaviour on his part.

Surely he would have had this level of security for a relatively short part of his adult life though. What about the times when he was a lowly party member and then MP, and again after his retirement?
I don't know the security measures offered to public figures pre- and post- service, but I can't see the public purse forking out for personal security when he was out of public service.

Paben 07 August 2015 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Blue by You (Post 11721259)
Surely he would have had this level of security for a relatively short part of his adult life though. What about the times when he was a lowly party member and then MP, and again after his retirement?
I don't know the security measures offered to public figures pre- and post- service, but I can't see the public purse forking out for personal security when he was out of public service.


Heath retained round the clock security for many years after he ceased to be Prime Minister

andy97 07 August 2015 11:26 AM

There seems to be a bit of a storm about Wiltshire police who released his name.

pasted from the Telegraph

Patrick Geenty stepped down as chief constable of Wiltshire Police in June while facing a misconduct hearing over allegations that he withheld information and misled members of the public about the case in 2009. His decision to take early retirement means he will avoid any disciplinary action

A minister told the Telegraph that the public investigation into the former prime minister was motivated by the Wiltshire force’s desire to appear proactive in the wake of Mr Geenty’s departure.
The minister said: “They have overreacted as a compensation for their previous failure. Reasonable people are coming to the conclusion that this is a bit of a witch-hunt. We are just inviting all sorts of people making all sorts of unwarranted allegations that wouldn’t stand up to any scrutiny

It is the latest blow to the investigation, which has attracted criticism after it emerged it was based on claims made by former brothel owner Myra Ling-Ling Forde, who has since denied ever mentioning his name to the police.
Dominic Grieve, the former Attorney General, told the Telegraph: “While it is wholly right that the police should pursue all lines of inquiry, they need to keep carefully in mind the risk that sensationalised allegations will make it harder to distinguish fact from fiction.”

Blue by You 07 August 2015 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11721269)
Heath retained round the clock security for many years after he ceased to be Prime Minister

Fair enough :thumb:

And before he was PM?

markjmd 07 August 2015 01:39 PM

As an ordinary MP, definitely not, as a cabinet minister and/or leader of the Conservative Party if he was either of those before becoming PM, quite possibly.

Blue by You 07 August 2015 03:11 PM


Originally Posted by markjmd (Post 11721364)
As an ordinary MP, definitely not, as a cabinet minister and/or leader of the Conservative Party if he was either of those before becoming PM, quite possibly.

:thumb:
The point I'm making is that in his 70-odd years of adulthood, there must have been ample opportunity for him to indulge in his preferred activities without the worry of a hired gun looking over his shoulder.
I'm not saying he's guilty or not, just that the occupation of high office for a small part of his life wouldn't necessarily preclude his participation in questionable practises.

kevo10 07 August 2015 05:47 PM


Originally Posted by markjmd (Post 11720791)
Seriously nauseating stuff. I find myself wondering sometimes about what this says about the women in this country, if such rich and powerful people resort to predating on teenage kids to get their sexual kicks. Or does that just mean the problem is equally well hidden in other parts of the world?

I dont think it says anything about the women in this country, It just shows up some men as being just being dirty perverts and who cant get it up with anyone over watever age they go for.

dpb 07 August 2015 06:14 PM

Janner's another one ( still alive fortunately ), seemed capable being a lord two years ago , apparently couple psychos believe he doesn't know now where he is from one moment to the next ...

stipete75 07 August 2015 07:15 PM

David icke broke the Heath story in the 90's graphic in his descriptions including the slitting of throats and dumped overboard. Everyone write him off as a crackpot lol

Scrappy9 08 August 2015 11:41 AM

I belive all Former Prime Ministers retain a security presence.

I eat in a restaurant in Norfolk that John Major seems to like and there is always a security man sitting on the next table or sat in the reception area

As with most people l find these events appalling and feel so sorry for the children that have been abused.

Sadly these types of things will still be going on and l for one would support any increase in funding (my taxes) to investigate and arrest these vile hideous people.

53 08 August 2015 12:03 PM

Dig the cnut up and bury him with Saville ;)

David Lock 09 August 2015 04:38 PM

Now Thatcher hated Heath big time and it makes me wonder if she knew what was going on?


Stick Janner in solitary - he'll think he is in a care home if he as mad as his psychos make out :)


dl

S204Darren 09 August 2015 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by stipete75 (Post 11721483)
David icke broke the Heath story in the 90's graphic in his descriptions including the slitting of throats and dumped overboard. Everyone write him off as a crackpot lol

Maybe David Icke isn't as mad as they'd like us to believe.

Paben 09 August 2015 10:55 PM


Originally Posted by S204Darren (Post 11722027)
Maybe David Icke isn't as mad as they'd like us to believe.


Actually I think he is every bit as mad

S204Darren 09 August 2015 10:58 PM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11722178)
Actually I think he is every bit as mad

Well maybe a little bit:lol1:

dpb 10 August 2015 09:26 AM

Hes almost as paranoid as our stipete

Paben 10 August 2015 02:36 PM

CP teams get used to turning a blind eye to their VIP's various misdemeanours: Heavy drinking, adultery, homosexuality etc are all par for the course. However, paedophilia and murder would not be tolerated.

dpb 10 August 2015 04:14 PM

Not for any money ?

stipete75 10 August 2015 08:51 PM

Pasted from my m3cutters page as can't be a r sed to re type.
It is like a plague, they are everywhere, prominent figures in parliament, the royals, music and telly( so called national treasures), in Hollywood, judges, high ranking police officials.
It's all satanic secret society's.
The biggest problem with all this is the mainstream media,the big corporations.
They don't tell you the whole story in fact they down play the potential seriousness of it all.
It's all interlinked in one way or another through blackmail.

A prominent young man called Charles Lynton(aka the crossdresser Miranda) went to a private boarding school called Fettes( in Scotland).
A teacher he adored called Knox Cunningham was involved in a high level paedo ring.
Later Charles Lynton would appear at a magistrates court charged with indecency in a public toilet with another man, paying him £500 for sexual favours.....
This man was to become PM in the 90's.
You only know what the mainstream media want you to know.

Jill Dando was murdered for allegedly about to blow the whistle on the bbc paedo ring linked to the government and the royals.
Charles Lynton became PM in 99 the same year Dando was murdered.( no one has ever been convicted of her murder)
Charles Lynton was responsible for enobling child-raping Labour peer, Greville Janner.
Charles Lynton made Margaret Hodge-Oppenheimer the first Children’s Minister, despite her being responsible for the Islington care-home abuse scandal.
Charles Lynton pushed a D-note through parliment(100yr gagging order), for national security purposes, was the Iraq war the reason as was announced, or was he protecting his Scottish friend and fellow PM?
Trust know one, do your own research, do not rely on the MM for your facts.


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