Jeremy Corbyn-new Labour leader?
 

He's in the lead by some margin. He's a conviction politician who is not trying to occupy the middle ground so should make for more interesting politics if he wins.

My personal politics are very different to his but I think it would be healthy to have a proper balance and counter view to our current lot.

Best endorsement . Tb Liar hates him :thumb:

The same guy that won 3 General Elections?? ;)

The one known almost to everyone in the UK as a liar?
The one who has blood on his hands, yet has made a profit from it?
That TBLiar?

Yep that's the guy.

Well worked out

Self-serving greedy cnuts, the lot of em !

Jeremy Corbyn has had one the lowest Expenses claims both now and before the expenses scandal broke

"From 7 May until 31 August 2010, Corbyn was the lowest expenses-claimer in the House of Commons. He has always been one of the lowest-claiming MPs. He told the Islington Gazette "I am a parsimonious MP. I think we should claim what we need to run our offices and pay our staff but be careful because it's obviously public money. In a year, rent for the office Durham Road, Finsbury Park, is about £12,000 to £14,000."[30] He rents his constituency office from the Ethical Property Company."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Corbyn

must be a bit odd because

"Well, I don’t spend a lot of money, I lead a very normal life, I ride a bicycle and I don’t have a car". He currently lives in Finsbury Park and before that lived in Harringay."

This is reminiscent of the Conservatives after Blair became PM, when the party appeared to elect leaders they liked but were virtually assured of un-electability by the public, which is ultimately the only goal that matters.

I agree with you in that it would be good for discourse if Corbyn were leader as there would be clear water between the parties which should promote open discussion and less of the cagey nonsense that goes on now.
If they are happy being out of power indefinitely then give it a go.

This morning on 5 Live they had a Conservative voter ring in to say he'd payed the fee and signed up to vote. Guess who he will be voting for?

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...fdb5226127.jpg


He certainly looks like a bona fide lefty. I like him!

Looks like one of the "Real Ale Tw@ts" from the Viz.

And like any bona fide lefty he's a fantasist.

You too can help destroy the labour party for only £3. Best £3 I've ever spent! :D

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...our-Party.html

Even if you disagree with the Labour Party, don't you think it's good to have someone lead it who actually holds Labour principles, and not be just slightly left of Tory, to have some actual choice rather than just different shades of Conservative.

Strangely enough, I was thinking about this sort of lefty looking blokes yesterday on their walking Holiday with a rucksack on their back and a rambling stick in one hand. They wear light coloured expensive chinos (usually cream shade) or green cords with light coloured expensive wind sheeters ( again, in cream or grey shade); with elasticacted stripey edges to it. Their designer watch is an ancient one with gold plated metal strap. They're men of not many words but with superior, mocking smiles on their lips; at almost every comment you make while talking to them. They are all grey and they have a look in their eyes for you as if they're either evaluating or covertly devaluating you. Basically they think they're dog's bollocks. :cool: They're unconsciously quite colonial. :D

Hes got Red Kens support
 

The Tories rubbed their hands happily when Ed got the nod over David. They'll be doing somersaults if this guy is elected, he's Michael Foot resurrected. Ken's support just about rounds it off!

I would never vote for him, but at least he stands by his beliefs and says what he thinks rather than what he thinks people want to hear.

a sort of "ying" for Farage's "yang"

Nice! :lol1:

He may be elected as Labour leader, but he'll never be Prime Minister, regardless of his policies, for one simple reason...

...he has a beard.

I can't think of any PM since Victorian times who has had a beard.

I can understand if he doesn't become a PM for relevant reasons, but I never thought that people of this country are beardists. :wonder: There're too many arrogant retired headmaster type beard bearers knocking about in their cardigans to believe that! I do know about the West's vendetta against solo moustache post Hitler, though. One of our silver merchant friends from India visited his French friends once, and spent about a fortnight there. He was to be there for 3 months but he said that he cut it short due to not to be able to survive on some oil on a poxy green leaf with dry bread.:D When he got back to India, his moustache was gone and he had lost about a stone due to going hungry there. He said he felt so aloof with his only moosh on his pretty face there that he had to shave it off. He did look very funny without it. :D

He is a total tosser and will do more harm to the labour party I would just leave Harriet Harman in, as she is the best of them up there at the moment, just a shame that she isnt standing for the leadership.Joking apart you can already see what is coming from the tories and it aint going to be nice

I hope he does become Labour leader. That way we don't have to worry about Labour getting back into power and F.ucking the country up again.

Join the labour party for £3 get your vote in, ensure Corbyn wins :D

Beards are very much in at the moment...find me an advert with a young, clean shaven man?

Mildly amusing but I would rather the winner was the winner fair and square.
If Corbyn wins because 'saboteurs' are paying the fee purely to vote him in then that is a travesty, however it's difficult not to feel Labour will be getting their just desserts as how did they not see the new voting system was fundamentally flawed in this way.
If he gets in I suspect he won't last long.

On Andrew Marr earlier, first time I've seen him on a candid interview, and I quite like him.

His ideology and principals are 20years too late though IMO. It'd work well if he was in control before Blair started, but now? No, too much damage across the board for it to be workable.

His belief of nationalising power assumes the infrastructure is ok as an ideology...However he's saying the private companies reaped the benefit of years of government investment on the national grid. Problem is its over 50 years old, more power station have been closed than new ones built and we have a growing energy demand...this could possibly the worst time to nationalise it as the government will have to foot the bill to improve the infrastructure. We are already seeing this with railtrack/network rail , and look what a mess that is and what its costing.

In the end of the day, there isn't the revenue to fund what he wants, bit of a shame really as he is one of the more believable politicians out there. And his wish to grow manufacturing and business production in this country is a good one to have, pity its all be killed and pushed overseas, so its already too late - where was he during the Blair era whilst hundreds of thousands companies small and large were all closing or moving abroad?

Well someone needs to tackle the horrendous differential between rich and poor in this country.

Even if he leads labour they will never get elected and if they did I can see them wrecking the fragile economy in a few months so we'll be back to square 1.

Mind you I think the other leader candidates are a pretty sorry bunch. I guess David Miliband is their distant hope?

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He's a 19th century solution to 21st century issues, people like him because he says what they believe, even though what they believe is so far detached from the reality of the world; you can't just spend without consideration. I just don't get why Labour vilify Blair, he should be celebrated like us Tories adored Thatcher, he was their heyday, he is what works in reality.

But hey, I'm not going to stop them from ensuring a Tory government for 20 years.

what "issues" are so different now for people in the 21st century

to me they seem pretty similar - (personal) prosperity, freedom, security, education, jobs, housing, the want that their children have a better chance in life than they did

not much in life changes - unless you mean the ability to watch porn on a watch