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bustaMOVEs 04 May 2015 12:27 PM

Oil modine or oil cooler
 
I'm needing a oil modine for my newage block as it's missing :cry:
Now do I pay the £190 etc or do I buy a oil cooler instead?
Will the oil cooler replace the modine?
I need to decide on the best cost effective option

Discuss

IainMilford 04 May 2015 01:59 PM

I have both on mine. Sorry lol

merlin24 04 May 2015 03:34 PM

If you are planning on doing a few track days, hill climb events etc, then a oil cooler with a thermostatic sandwich plate is always a good idea.


Mick

banny sti 04 May 2015 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by merlin24 (Post 11675351)
If you are planning on doing a few track days, hill climb events etc, then a oil cooler with a thermostatic sandwich plate is always a good idea.


Mick

+1

the shreksta 04 May 2015 05:32 PM

i have a top mount hyperflow oil cooler and i know i dont have a modine as ive had to buy a spec c water pump,i dont know if all aftermarket oil coolers are the same though and delete the modine

bustaMOVEs 04 May 2015 06:51 PM


Originally Posted by IainMilford (Post 11675318)
I have both on mine. Sorry lol

You would lol.

Originally Posted by merlin24 (Post 11675351)
If you are planning on doing a few track days, hill climb events etc, then a oil cooler with a thermostatic sandwich plate is always a good idea.


Mick

Will that set up delete the need for modine? What's roughly the cost option to do this?

bustaMOVEs 04 May 2015 07:51 PM

Guys will this replace oil modine?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TEGIWA-MOC...25.m3641.l6368

the shreksta 04 May 2015 08:14 PM

Hey busta there is a used oil cooler in the for sale section, might be worth a look and ask the seller about it

the shreksta 04 May 2015 08:15 PM

https://www.scoobynet.com/subaru-par...-for-sale.html

bustaMOVEs 04 May 2015 08:26 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11675526)
Hey busta there is a used oil cooler in the for sale section, might be worth a look and ask the seller about it

Haha, you're kidding right, last time I went to buy a part off him, he fecked off to Liverpool. :lol1:
But thanks.
I just want to know will that kit excuse the need for a modine as I'm not fully clued up in that area.

the shreksta 04 May 2015 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11675542)
Haha, you're kidding right, last time I went to buy a part off him, he fecked off to Liverpool. :lol1:

Ah right didn't know that.............

IainMilford 04 May 2015 09:11 PM

I wouldnt buy a second hand oil cooler, you never know what might be floating around inside it, considering the job it does, not worth the risk imo

the shreksta 04 May 2015 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by IainMilford (Post 11675582)
I wouldnt buy a second hand oil cooler, you never know what might be floating around inside it, considering the job it does, not worth the risk imo

I don't understand statements like this, if you bought a car with the oil cooler fitted technically you have bought a second hand oil cooler regardless of if it's fitted or not.

bustaMOVEs 04 May 2015 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by IainMilford (Post 11675582)
I wouldnt buy a second hand oil cooler, you never know what might be floating around inside it, considering the job it does, not worth the risk imo

Forget that.

I've still not had my main question answered?

Will that oil kit that I linked excuse the need for a modine? (It's £190 for a genuine modine so do a put a couple of pennies towards a cooler kit and be done with it?)
Gonna phone Alyn tmr and order a few bits so wondering to add it to list or not.

IainMilford 04 May 2015 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by the shreksta (Post 11675605)
I don't understand statements like this, if you bought a car with the oil cooler fitted technically you have bought a second hand oil cooler regardless of if it's fitted or not.

If you buy a complete running car its fine, you never know the state of the engine that it came from if you buy seperately. People will say the engine was running fine but could be full of bits of piston rings or big end bearings. Just a risk I wouldn't take personally.

IainMilford 04 May 2015 09:46 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11675615)
Forget that.

I've still not had my main question answered?

Will that oil kit that I linked excuse the need for a modine? (It's £190 for a genuine modine so do a put a couple of pennies towards a cooler kit and be done with it?)
Gonna phone Alyn tmr and order a few bits so wondering to add it to list or not.

I have heard that an oil modine can help to the warm the oil as well, making it better for cold starts, I just went with he recommendation of my engine builder, I'm sure Alyn will set you straight :)

merlin24 05 May 2015 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11675615)
Forget that.

I've still not had my main question answered?

Will that oil kit that I linked excuse the need for a modine? (It's £190 for a genuine modine so do a put a couple of pennies towards a cooler kit and be done with it?)
Gonna phone Alyn tmr and order a few bits so wondering to add it to list or not.


The link in #7 would replace the modine but would recommend having the thermostatic sandwich plate and not the ordinary one in the kit.
The thermostatic plate will allow the oil to warm up as per the OEM modine oil cooler before opening and allowing the oil to circulate through the cooler.



Mick

bustaMOVEs 05 May 2015 10:16 PM


Originally Posted by merlin24 (Post 11676297)
The link in #7 would replace the modine but would recommend having the thermostatic sandwich plate and not the ordinary one in the kit.
The thermostatic plate will allow the oil to warm up as per the OEM modine oil cooler before opening and allowing the oil to circulate through the cooler.



Mick

Thanks,
But hasn't the coolant/water got something to do with the modine?

banny sti 06 May 2015 03:03 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11676321)
Thanks,
But hasn't the coolant/water got something to do with the modine?

Yes, it is used to heat the oil but with a thermostatic sandwich plate the need for that is negated ;)

bustaMOVEs 06 May 2015 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 11676667)
Yes, it is used to heat the oil but with a thermostatic sandwich plate the need for that is negated ;)

Ah dam, well I've gone for a modine instead for now to complete the parts list.
I'll look into it later.
I belive the oe modine does its job very well.

(P.s I order you to reply instantly:D)

banny sti 06 May 2015 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11676863)
Ah dam, well I've gone for a modine instead for now to complete the parts list.
I'll look into it later.
I belive the oe modine does its job very well.

(P.s I order you to reply instantly:D)

:lol1: fecker, modine on the whole is fine but on track I get the feeling an oil cooler will be needed :thumb:

bustaMOVEs 06 May 2015 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 11676959)
:lol1: fecker, modine on the whole is fine but on track I get the feeling an oil cooler will be needed :thumb:

Wtf! That's nearly 2 hours :razz:

Not sure now wether to return modine and go with kit :wonder:
I'll ask Tim.

banny sti 06 May 2015 09:34 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11676969)
Wtf! That's nearly 2 hours :razz:

Not sure now wether to return modine and go with kit :wonder:
I'll ask Tim.

Kit would be my choice :)

trevsjwood 07 May 2015 07:41 PM

unless you're doing track only I would fit the modine first and see how you get on, then fit the oil cooler only if you have a problem.
Even with a thermostatic plate I struggle with low oil temps in winter, it's fine about town but any cruising gives sub 80deg temps, so much so I cover the cooler form October.
Trev

bustaMOVEs 07 May 2015 09:32 PM

Thanks.
I'm gonna stick with modine for now seen as I've bought it now, as the delete modine to fit cooler is a diy job which I can do at a later date.

Link regarding modine delete courtesy of banny. http://bbs.22b.com/forums/showthread...Quick-question


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