cam and crank seals
 

im going to be doing the timing belt is it worth doing the cam and crank seals ,and where can i buy them

ICP sell them. How many miles are on the car?

110k , looking through icp , the search function there is crap basically have to search through 38 pages

im not sure exactly what i need, 4x cam seals and 2 on the crank i think

any good videos for fitting them

The rear crank seal will need the gearbox taking off and clutch. If there not leaking I would just leave them. And yes, 4x cam seals and 2x crank.

front is def worth doing seeing as your in there as its easy enough. cam seals easy as well but as said above unless its leaking leave the rear alone as its a box off job

Thanks for the replies , I'll definitely get the front crank seal, I'd like to do the cam seals but from what I've seen the bolts can be a bigger to get off , worried about breaking valves and things

It's an old car with parts that have been fitted for many years and will all have bedded in. I personally would not recommend pulling bits apart when there is nothing wrong. It is not a service item and if you run into trouble trying to change something that didn't need changing you will be so pissed off.

I have never done the cam or front crank seal but the rear is a bitch. Not talking about getting the box off i'm talking about the seal itself. First to get it out you have to drill it. One slip and you wreck the seal surface of the block. Second it's proper stuck in there. I had to pry mine out with a bar which levered a screw threaded into the old seal. Secondly once out you have to get the new one in. I tried and tried tapping mine in with a rubber hammer only to find it went in too deep... this is bad and means I had to ruin that seal and risk the block again pulling it out. Then I had to buy another seal and try again. This time I made a too out of aluminium which pressed the seal into place using the flywheel bolts.

I did this because I had a leak and it had to be fixed.

I would never dream of doing it to a seal that was not leaking.

Maybe the front ones are easier.... maybe I was unlucky. But seriously consider if it's worth it before you start taking things apart. You may end up in a heap of trouble for no gain.

Always use proper subaru seals the cheap ones are crap.

You may be thinking that if you don't change them perhaps they will fail soon leading to having to do the cambelt job again.... but where do you stop? What if 100 miles later the oil pump fails? What if you throw a bearing? What if a tensioner fails? etc etc. Some times we worry too much (me included) which can lead to more harm then good.

If it's not broken Don't fix it, this works 100% of the time! :D

thanks for thereplies and probably wise words ,its made my mind up to leave the seals ,