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Townsend94 25 January 2015 11:04 AM

Subaru type r
 
I'm looking into buying my first subaru, I'd like to buy a fully forged subaru type r?

How much would I be looking to spend for a decent one?
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What version is best to get? For power, reliability and handling

I'm very new to subaru's but after driving my friends I was so impressed that it's made me want one

Gear Head 25 January 2015 11:13 AM

Welcome. Before you go any further, has your friend told you just how expensive they can be to run?

I'd say around £8-£9k for a forged type r, and even then it may need some work. Just because it is forged, it does not make it bullet proof.

Plus the arches in classic imprezas have all started to go now so be mindful of bodged repairs.

Townsend94 25 January 2015 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by Gear Head (Post 11611697)
Welcome. Before you go any further, has your friend told you just how expensive they can be to run?

I'd say around £8-£9k for a forged type r, and even then it may need some work. Just because it is forged, it does not make it bullet proof.

Plus the arches in classic imprezas have all started to go now so be mindful of bodged repairs.

His is quite good on fuel in fairness I reckon, I'm coming from a stage 1 200sx s14 which was very thirsty on fuel but the scooby won't be my daily car,

How much would one be with a few minor mods then not a forged engine, I don't mind building the engine up myself

Gear Head 25 January 2015 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by Townsend94 (Post 11611703)

His is quite good on fuel in fairness I reckon, I'm coming from a stage 1 200sx s14 which was very thirsty on fuel but the scooby won't be my daily car,

How much would one be with a few minor mods then not a forged engine, I don't mind building the engine up myself

Best start by looking in pistonheads for an idea on price. I'd say around £6k and up.

How much you got to spend? Depends if you want a mint one or not.

ditchmyster 25 January 2015 06:38 PM

Welcome, if I were looking now, I'd be looking in the direction of fresh imports.

As above your looking at circa £6k plus for a decent one, then it's going to need a remap for UK fuel and some decent brakes as well as some handling mods and geo, beyond that it's pot luck.

Forged engine is no better than standard really as they'll cope with 350bhp from the factory and that's about as far as you want to take one on the standard box anyway, otherwise it's a roll of the dice/driving style as far as how long the gearbox will last above that level, and tbh you don't really need anymore than that in a Type R anyway, at that you'll be more than able to dust most things out there if you can drive. ;)

I have a 555 V3 STI Type R, for me it's the original and best, but opinions vary some prefer V5/6 but there's not much in it, horses for courses, just buy the one in the best condition you can find.

Be prepared for 15/20mpg Hooning and combined you might get around 25mpg on a run @70mph but that's about as good as it gets, appart from that they're no more expensive to run than any other Subaru.

Townsend94 25 January 2015 07:15 PM

where would be the best place to import one?

Tony Harrington 25 January 2015 07:20 PM

Check out the type-ra.com website & ask all the questions you want, the guys have a wealth of knowledge to guide you in your search. ;)

Tidgy 25 January 2015 07:30 PM

importing your looking at 10k+ now, 6k is a pretty low budget for em now. 7-8k+ for a reasonable one

Townsend94 26 January 2015 06:54 AM

Il probably buy one already imported saves the hassle really,

What version should I look into getting?

My friends has a fully closed deck version 3 and says that's the best engine for power and reliability but bad on cooling?

This doesn't bother me however the version 6 looks a lot better but it's ht leads instead of coils and apparently the engines aren't the best on them?

Am I correct or could someone point me in the right direction

ditchmyster 26 January 2015 07:13 AM

Main diferences between the engines are the heads as they have different cams, also possibly but don't quote me as it's a while since I did my research, I think the later ones may have different rods, but it's really no big deal because like I said before you don't really want to go much beyond 350bhp in any of them.

As above best place for precise information is Type R/RA forum.

The yen is up against the pound and prices in Japan have also risen so yes the cost of fresh Imports has gone up, but there are the odd ones kicking around that have been here a while and still with the dealers or been here a year or so, I believe Tidgy on here bought one recently from Max at Hurst cars for around the £6/6.5k mark, so they are out there.

Both sold but you get the Idea and both dealers have a good rep, you could try contacting them to see what they have coming over in the next few months.

http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-im...sti-type-r-v6/

http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01409147382218

Then there's these guys but as you can see their cars are usually a tad on the expensive side.

http://www.svaimports.com/cars/manufacturer/subaru/

Tidgy 26 January 2015 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11612514)
Main diferences between the engines are the heads as they have different cams, also possibly but don't quote me as it's a while since I did my research, I think the later ones may have different rods, but it's really no big deal because like I said before you don't really want to go much beyond 350bhp in any of them.

As above best place for precise information is Type R/RA forum.

The yen is up against the pound and prices in Japan have also risen so yes the cost of fresh Imports has gone up, but there are the odd ones kicking around that have been here a while and still with the dealers or been here a year or so, I believe Tidgy on here bought one recently from Max at Hurst cars for around the £6/6.5k mark, so they are out there.

Both sold but you get the Idea and both dealers have a good rep, you could try contacting them to see what they have coming over in the next few months.

http://torque-gt.co.uk/car/subaru-im...sti-type-r-v6/

http://www.hurstcars.co.uk/used-cars...01409147382218

Then there's these guys but as you can see their cars are usually a tad on the expensive side.

http://www.svaimports.com/cars/manufacturer/subaru/


Yip as above, got mine recently, however it has had to have a few things done to put it right, prob comes to £1500-£2000 so in reality it prob £7500. I ended up being lucky in as much as the shell is solid with no rust.

MattyB1983 26 January 2015 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Townsend94 (Post 11612509)
Il probably buy one already imported saves the hassle really,

What version should I look into getting?

My friends has a fully closed deck version 3 and says that's the best engine for power and reliability but bad on cooling?

This doesn't bother me however the version 6 looks a lot better but it's ht leads instead of coils and apparently the engines aren't the best on them?

Am I correct or could someone point me in the right direction

If your friends has the original engine then it won't be closed deck, it'll be an open deck block. A standard closed deck block is no stronger than a standard open deck block.

All classics after 96 use a single coil pack and leads, the later cars just have the coil pack to one side instead of the middle.

The Trooper 1815 26 January 2015 04:03 PM

http://www.type-ra.com/#

Have a look here, but a mint Chase Yellow Type R MY 97 is the daddy that helped start it all and is very rare.

BenGTTurbo 27 January 2015 12:31 AM

SVA Imports in Dover, Kent have a very nice version 6 type-r in. I got mine from there although i will say there customer service is terrible. There cars are mint though.

Tidgy 27 January 2015 10:50 AM


Originally Posted by BenGTTurbo (Post 11613488)
SVA Imports in Dover, Kent have a very nice version 6 type-r in. I got mine from there although i will say there customer service is terrible. There cars are mint though.

decent but i wouldnt go to the stage of saying mint

BenGTTurbo 27 January 2015 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11613670)
decent but i wouldnt go to the stage of saying mint

Back when i got mine 2 and a half years ago most cars on there forecourt was mint examples of some rare japanese cars. Maybe not so much now??

Stevo210 28 January 2015 10:15 AM

What you need is this beauty.......going up for sale mid Feb.

http://edgedp.com/Edge/subaru/typera.JPG
http://edgedp.com/Edge/subaru/typerb.JPG
http://edgedp.com/Edge/subaru/typerc.JPG
http://edgedp.com/Edge/subaru/typerd.JPG

:)

jonnyricer2 28 January 2015 01:47 PM

By jove Stevo that is sweet!!

96sti 28 January 2015 02:20 PM


Originally Posted by BenGTTurbo (Post 11613488)
SVA Imports in Dover, Kent have a very nice version 6 type-r in. I got mine from there although i will say there customer service is terrible. There cars are mint though.

I live local and took my scooby for some advice on a noise i had was told to wait so waited in the end i just walked out. Very very rude and turnover on cars are very slow

Stevo210 28 January 2015 02:21 PM


By jove Stevo that is sweet!!
Thanks......its much loved and will be much missed. Ive owned it for over 9 years and its time it went to another good home. Im sure someone would love to give it a good home and a warm garage at night.

RAF1 28 January 2015 02:39 PM

WOW. Had my heart set on a blue type-R but that black looks sweeeeet. So go on then how much ? :-)

Stevo210 28 January 2015 02:47 PM

:lol1: Open to sensible offers... hopefully wont be entertaining tyre kickers :)

MOT is due half way through Feb, so thought Id get that under her belt and then she'll be good to go.

scotty75 28 January 2015 02:50 PM

Sorry but you want the v3 sti type r the holy grail of the type r's as they are the first but I'm biased as I own a white v3 1997 type r

Tidgy 28 January 2015 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by scotty75 (Post 11614882)
Sorry but you want the v3 sti type r the holy grail of the type r's as they are the first but I'm biased as I own a white v3 1997 type r

V5 and v6 are better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :norty: :norty: :norty:


:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

Stevo210 28 January 2015 04:53 PM

PM Inbox emptied now :)

ditchmyster 28 January 2015 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by Tidgy (Post 11614900)
V5 and v6 are better,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, :norty: :norty: :norty:


:lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1::lol1:

No they're not. ;)

bustaMOVEs 28 January 2015 06:44 PM

V3 have the best aggressive cams and higher redline

And bloody hell stevo, that black R is mint

Kwik 28 January 2015 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11615055)
V3 have the best aggressive cams and higher redline And bloody hell stevo, that black R is mint

As do the v4, but with the updated dash/clocks.
Therefore v4 is the winner, except mine as its ****.

MattyB1983 28 January 2015 08:16 PM


Originally Posted by Kwik (Post 11615140)
As do the v4, but with the updated dash/clocks.
Therefore v4 is the winner, except mine as its ****.

Cams are different on a V4 to a V3.

V4 made slightly more torque out the factory though :thumb:

Kwik 28 January 2015 08:31 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 11615158)
Cams are different on a V4 to a V3.

V4 made slightly more torque out the factory though :thumb:

Different in what way Matt? The only thing I know is the 2 lines through them rather than 1 on the V3's and even that wasn't always the case. I took a pic and measurement of the cam lobes on mine, I've yet to see something to compare to the V3.


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