No - IF there was a conspiracy, THEY got rid of the 185

[QUOTE=bonesetter;11606456]No - IF there was a conspiracy, THEY got rid of the 185[/QUOTE]


How?

Christopher Hitchens used to say that the only way to deal with conspiracy theorists was to ignore them and push them out to the perimeters. Engaging said 'theorists' only serves to make their position appear credible and worthy of serious exchange.

So let's get this straight - instead of taking that plane-load of 185 people, strapping them into the plane with state-of-the-art remote control technology and actually flying it into the Pentagon and killing them all, THEY go to all the trouble of taking the same 185 people who were supposed to be on the plane, fly them to some secret location where they're all ruthlessly murdered with whatever poison CIA death-squads are using these days (;)), dispose of the several hundred ton plane leaving no trace, then fake a crash-landing of that plane into the Pentagon using something that leaves just enough doubt not to convince the conspiracy-theory-inclined that it really was a plane, but looks convincing enough to persuade eye-witnesses in the vicinity, the media etc, that it was.

If the THEY you're talking about are really that stupid they chose alternative #2 over alternative #1, I really don't think the rest of us have much to worry about. :cool:

[QUOTE=Dingdongler;11606509]You expect me to know that?

I think in these times we absolutely must question and not beleive the MS Media

Do you think Bin Laden and his band did it?

[QUOTE=bonesetter;11606516]Its easy. They managed just fine with Malaysia airline MH370...no plane no bodies.

Do you believe the masterminds behind the conspiracy deliberately chose alternative #2 precisely because it was such an absurd thing to do, and would therefore throw people off the scent?

Post 37 quotes Dingdongler state what he never did. What's going on? Any theories? :Suspiciou

If the US government were prepared to kill 185 people,

and all these conspiracy theories stem from a relatively few (Alex Jones and Dylan Avery - who started it all with loose change)

Why don't they just bump off the conspiritards

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Nip it all in the bud

It is impossible to fly a jumbo into the Pentagon in the way the official story says it did, whoever was flying - it would need to fly at 6m for over a Km, which a jumbo that size can not do

And then all that plane makes just a 5m square hole in the Pentagon

It was something else - watch the video

That did make me chuckle,seriously lol
The joke is in the joke though.

It was not a Jumbo, it was a much smaller plane -767

And it made a hole over 100 feet wide

Here is a quote from a real person, someone who was there

Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane, and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section of the plane, and I found the black box." Kilsheimer's eyewitness account is backed up by photos of plane wreckage inside and outside the building. Kilsheimer adds: "I held parts of uniforms from crew members in my hands, including body parts. Okay?"


All the physics is in here - a respected US magazine, with real qualified scientist - all peer reviewed

http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...myths-pentagon

The truth is stranger than fiction. That's why theres always something not quite right with events like these. That gives room for questions, and allows people who do not want to accept what has happened pretend it isn't real. These people saying don't believe "the media", well the media isn't 5 or 6 people sitting in a room its thousands and thousands of people worldwide from all different perspectives, religions and nationailties and more importantly different agendas.

It happened, get over it.

All the passengers were identified by DNA

i cant say i know for sure , my opinion is that the pictures ive seen of the pentagon shortly after the "crash" dont show any signs of a massive plane

The simple truth is we live in a digital age - but still in a analogue world

The DNA was extracted from Wasps, altered to be identical to all the people on the planes and in the buildings and then as the buildings came down someone ran along with a bucket and chucked it all in.

Sure, you don't know because you are not a structural engineer, why should you

Read the link - it is by a vast array of qualified structural and blast engineers

Psychologly research shows conspiracy theorists and those who choose to believe them are more gullible and susceptible to suggestion.

http://www.slate.com/articles/health...fk.single.html

This was in the news earlier this month

A Facebook privacy hoax, it has been banging around the Internet for years, it is continually being debunked but like a dose of the clap it keeps coming back, people keep perpetuating it

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-maga...nitor-30716493

Much like these conspiracy theories, they have been debunked and debunked but like the Facebook story they keep coming back

99.9% have been debunked

The pics/footage I've seen show 5m square

The plane measured 13m across. There was also no impact evidence of the engines on the wall - as there was in the twin towers - on the pics I've seen

In fact the engines 'disappeared' ! They are are the strongest part of a plane and made from magnesium. 1300°C would be needed to burn them and only black smoke could be seen coming from the hole

The contributors who appear in that video I linked are some of the most respected people in the military and 'establishment'

We can't expect to wrangle the detail here

There are just far too many unanswered questions/impossibilities/absurdities in the official story - twins & Pentagon

There is no depth to evil, and what the US, the west, and for that matter many of the world leaders, rich and famous get up to is beginning to come out

It was a 757.
If a 757 aircraft,travelling in excess of 500mph, more than a football field long and 44ft in height with a 125ft wingspan, crashed into the Pentagon full of fuel where is the wreckage?
The federal government had two "in-house" specialists to try and demonstrate what really happened.
Professor Mete Sozen and Allyn E. Kilsheimer, one says an impact of that magnitude would of turned metal mass into liquid mass! hence no wreckage, the other says he held small parts of the plane in his hand and also the crews body parts and uniform, contradictory?.
If Kilsheimer did hold parts of uniforms, then they easily could have come from the poor unfortunate people inside the building, I mean we are talking about the Pentagon here.

About the "cartoon-like" holes on the Pentagon where the wings would have been, that is just a tactic to throw people off and discredit anyone who questions how such a big plane could disappear so completely, without a trace, when similar crashes leave debris spread over a large area.

Why doesnt the US government release the footage of the crash recorded form a number of nearby video cameras? Why did the FBI immediately seize all of those cameras?

Those images show what crashed into the Pentagon, if it was the 757, then why dont they just release the other views of it?
The only footage they have released, from a Pentagon camera, shows a brief blur of an object. A very fuzzy object that does not look football field long.

The engines did not disappear, there are photos of engines parts (part of the compressor) in the wreckage

Why do you perpetuate lies?

i read the first few paragraphs on your link, it was talking about a 75 foot wide hole , that is just over half the width of the plane that crashed into it , as shown in my earlier picture . but i cant see that massive hole , can you ?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e3...ps255466a1.jpg

where is the 75foot hole ?

I've just spent the last one hour and forty-four minutes watching one of the videos linked to on here.


There's a lot of questions asked by supposed respected ex military and aviation experts (a lot of bloody Italians too for some reason).

But here's the thing - they are just reading and seeing what they want to read and see about something that happened.
Like some people read into the ramblings of some story written thousands of years ago, and decipher it as they see fit.

As Slater the slag once said - '.....it's a bit of a poser, innit Delboy....'

There are known unknowns, etc...

If they had footage and released it, it would change nothing

We have plenty of footage of planes hitting the twin towers yet conspiritards still say no planes hit the twin towers,

You can never win

Conspiritards would just say "what a coincidence (not) that the pentagon had high speed cameras point at the exact place - suspicious ????

Those parts started 'appearing' later on, and there was only a very few parts recovered. Most of it 'disappeared'

See post above

So, you think it was Bin Laden?

It say the Italian is a Nobel prise winner doesn't it

Mmmm, yeah he should know a thing or two about structural dynamics

He is a Nobel prize winner after all, but hey what is it in - I'll tell you

Poetry

No they did not, what about all the eye witnesses who saw the plane hit