Save the Children staff furious over ‘global legacy’ award for Tony Blair
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He and Bush should have been "awarded" prison sentences.
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Charities are inevitably 'milked' by admin, governance etc, but this is ridiculous. STC typically absorbs about 15% before anything heads towards the intended recipients. I'm guessing they'll lose a lot of goodwill as a result of this award.
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'Its (STC) UK chief executive, Justin Forsyth, was a special adviser to Blair for three years, and Jonathan Powell, Blair’s former chief of staff, is currently on the board of STC.' How much longer will this self serving,inside dealing,sycophantic,morally debased bunch of ego maniacs get away with this? The west are just as bad as any other society in letting these people rise to the top. |
Considering the amount of vitriole both spoken and written against Margaret Thatcher over the years, predominantly by hardcore Labour supporters, there's some irony in the fact that their most 'successful' leader is so morally bankrupt.
Shame there isn't a suitable DeLorean around. Somebody could go back to '97 and assassinate the weasel. I have absolutely no doubt the World would be a better place. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 11569206)
Considering the amount of vitriole both spoken and written against Margaret Thatcher over the years, predominantly by hardcore Labour supporters, there's some irony in the fact that their most 'successful' leader is so morally bankrupt.
Shame there isn't a suitable DeLorean around. Somebody could go back to '97 and assassinate the weasel. I have absolutely no doubt the World would be a better place. Good post. |
It's all about pushing fwd Tonys profile as the "Saviour" of Africa, cos after all he saved the middle east from themselves, right
Appalling distasteful, but he's got to put his foot down and get in ahead of the Chinese He gained foothold west Africa as result of saving liberians from themselves |
As bad as Blair was and let's face it he was pretty bloody awful he still did nowhere near the damage to this country that Thatcher did. She dismantled the good part of the society we had and turned us into a nation of selfish greed driven bigots as witnessed by at least two posters on this thread!
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Thatch didn't extend her reign of duplicity anywhere she could
All she cared about was UK plc, at teh expense of the working bloke Her son on the other hand .. |
Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 11569229)
It's all about pushing fwd Tonys profile as the "Saviour" of Africa, cos after all he saved the middle east from themselves, right
Appalling distasteful, but he's got to put his foot down and get in ahead of the Chinese He gained foothold west Africa as result of saving liberians from themselves |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11569406)
As bad as Blair was and let's face it he was pretty bloody awful he still did nowhere near the damage to this country that Thatcher did. She dismantled the good part of the society we had and turned us into a nation of selfish greed driven bigots as witnessed by at least two posters on this thread!
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Originally Posted by SJ_Skyline
(Post 11569496)
Maybe, but she only buggered up one country, unlike Blair.
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11569627)
Which countries did Blair bugger up that would not of been buggered whether he was in power or not?
The 'War on Terror'. Without Tony Blair and George Bush maybe 50% of the news wouldn't be devoted to Islamists making a nuisance of themselves in their own countries or trying to kill us in ours. Do you believe Libya, Syria, Egypt etc would still have happened the way it has without 2003? |
They are talking about this on the Daily Politics right now.
It all comes back to Iraq. |
Originally Posted by c_maguire
(Post 11569649)
The invasion of Iraq.
The 'War on Terror'. Without Tony Blair and George Bush maybe 50% of the news wouldn't be devoted to Islamists making a nuisance of themselves in their own countries or trying to kill us in ours. Do you believe Libya, Syria, Egypt etc would still have happened the way it has without 2003? What I think we can say though is that all the things you mentioned would of happened anyway, irrespective of who the PM of the UK was |
It's quite sad that you have to watch Al Jazeera/RT or French media outlets to find out what is going on in your own country. I avoid UK news on TV, unless local because of the constant terrorism guff. It really is boring.
Thank you Tony. I have an award of my own for you. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11569750)
Impossible to say.
What I think we can say though is that all the things you mentioned would of happened anyway, irrespective of who the PM of the UK was |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11570347)
That is complete bollocks! Stop being such a fecking apologist!
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He seemed amazingly comfortable with sacrificing other parents children for his bizarre beliefs
And true to those beliefs he simply does not recognise the sovereignty of humanity to judge him He is as close to iradeemable as it is possible to get |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570360)
Could you point to the part that was either 'apologist' or 'bollocks'?
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11570365)
The whole 'it would have happened anyway' crap... qualifies as both bollocks and apologist! You have no idea if it would have happened anyway.
Rumsfeld was pretty clear about the US not needing the UK, or anyone else for that matter |
Maybe if we had had a leader with some common sense instead of a glory seeking world stager then we could have leaned on the US to at least contemplate a plan for what happens after they rid the country of Saddam before they actually did so.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11570373)
Maybe if we had had a leader with some common sense instead of a glory seeking world stager then we could have leaned on the US to at least contemplate a plan for what happens after they rid the country of Saddam before they actually did so.
This however wasn't the point I made, and certainly, doesn't explain the 'apologist' or 'bollocks' comment you made. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570374)
Well I agree the post war planning was a disaster. The FO were actually kicking up a hell of fuss about this, they were largely ignored by the US.
This however wasn't the point I made, and certainly, doesn't explain the 'apologist' or 'bollocks' comment you made. Ergo your statement was bollocks! You also keep making excuses for Blair's actions both in this post and others ergo you are being an apologist! QED! Goodnight! |
Originally Posted by f1_fan
(Post 11570375)
You said it would have happened anyway. I said not necessarily and gave you an example as to why it might not.
Ergo your statement was bollocks! You also keep making excuses for Blair's actions both in this post and others ergo you are being an apologist! QED! Goodnight! You're argument that 'it might not' is at best baseless speculation, at worst fanciful. Stop trying to rewrite history. |
Please, please...
Would have or would've. Enough already. |
Originally Posted by joz8968
(Post 11570384)
Please, please...
Would have or would've. Enough already. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570392)
Now corrected, humblest apologies for my faux pas
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
(Post 11570416)
lol how appropriate considering you love to correct my use of there and they're, arse.... :o
Now go away, or say something that might actually add something to the discussion. |
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570379)
It would have happened anyway.
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570379)
You're argument that 'it might not' is at best baseless speculation, at worst fanciful.
Originally Posted by Martin2005
(Post 11570379)
Stop trying to rewrite history.
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