Quick question on wideband afr
I'm looking to buy a wideband afr sensor and gauge,most likely will be a innovate Motorsport one.
Can I just replace my narrowband oem one with the wideband and will the original connecting plug just plug into the wideband lambda so the ecu still reads the afr? If it does will this do anything to the fueling as it's a more accurate sensor? Cheers Rich |
Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567097)
I'm looking to buy a wideband afr sensor and gauge,most likely will be a innovate Motorsport one.
Can I just replace my narrowband oem one with the wideband and will the original connecting plug just plug into the wideband lambda so the ecu still reads the afr? If it does will this do anything to the fueling as it's a more accurate sensor? Cheers Rich |
Cheers banny. So I'm going to have to get an extra hold put into the downpipe for the wideband to fit :(
Do you recon I can do this with the downpipe still on the car? Where do the mappers fit the wideband when the do a remap? |
Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567114)
Cheers banny. So I'm going to have to get an extra hold put into the downpipe for the wideband to fit :(
Do you recon I can do this with the downpipe still on the car? Where do the mappers fit the wideband when the do a remap? |
Thanks for that banny.
I'm trying to get my stuff together before I buy the esl board. I'm now thinking if I'm going to go through the hassle of taking the downpipe off then I might as well get myself a decat downpipe and put the extra hole in before I fit it :thumb: |
I had to cut a hole and weld a new boss on to my downpipe for my wideband sensor. I doubt it could be done on the car. It's not difficult to remove the downpipe anyway.
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
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I had to cut a hole and weld a new boss on to my downpipe for my wideband sensor. I doubt it could be done on the car. It's not difficult to remove the downpipe anyway.
I have a set of car ramps so should make the job easier. I will buy the decat,buy the wideband,get the boss welded in then wait for my esl before fitting. |
Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567173)
Cool,thought it might be a pig of a job. I have a set of car ramps so should make the job easier. I will buy the decat,buy the wideband,get the boss welded in then wait for my esl before fitting.
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
(Post 11567175)
Good plan! I actually removed my exhaust system in one complete piece. Turned out to be easier lol.
And I suppose I would be a good idea to change the catted up pipe while it's all apart :thumb: |
Presoak the downpipe to turbo bolts in wd40/plus gas etc. If one of those studs snap youre into a world of pain. I bought spare studs & nuts just in case
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567217)
Cheers mate,sounds like a good idea.....hmmm might as well go for a decat mid pipe too then :)
And I suppose I would be a good idea to change the catted up pipe while it's all apart :thumb: |
Originally Posted by banny sti
(Post 11567347)
JDM cars only had one cat that was in the downpipe, no cat in upipe and only a resonator in the middle section. Just get a decat 2.5" exhaust and be done with it, its fun spending someone elses money :D
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Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567376)
Mine has a fujitsubo zorst on,it's 3" and has a cat in the middle section and a resonator at the back section. It's a very quiet system. I might just change the downpipe for now,and maybe a 3" center? It's good to know that the up pipe has no cat tho :)
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To answer your question, yes you can replace your narrowband with the innovate. No probs at all.
The innovate has a configurable analogue output so can mimic the factory narrow band. (After all that's the only reason you would buy an innovate over an AEM for example) The only thing you have to contend with is the resistance of the heater in the oem narrow band, either use the existing sensor for that or a resistor. No holes need cut here. Just the wires |
Interesting,cheers boosted I will have a look into that :thumb:
This will mean a lot less hassle,not having to change the zorst and I will be abel to get my ESL sooner :) |
Originally Posted by ossett2k2
(Post 11567421)
Interesting,cheers boosted I will have a look into that :thumb:
This will mean a lot less hassle,not having to change the zorst and I will be abel to get my ESL sooner :) It's fairly well documented on the innovate instructions and te internet how to set up to 0-1v narrowband output for your car. You will need to cut the signal wire from your narrowband and tap into that. |
Originally Posted by boosted
(Post 11567406)
To answer your question, yes you can replace your narrowband with the innovate. No probs at all. The innovate has a configurable analogue output so can mimic the factory narrow band. (After all that's the only reason you would buy an innovate over an AEM for example) The only thing you have to contend with is the resistance of the heater in the oem narrow band, either use the existing sensor for that or a resistor. No holes need cut here. Just the wires
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Originally Posted by piehole1983
(Post 11567477)
My Zeitronix ZT2 can do this too, I didn't use the feature though. Also, if you can find one for sale the ZT2 is an awesome job.
Plus the wideband will be more accurate, and if your clever you can lean off the closed loop for better fuel economy |
Just reading up on the innovate and all sounds good to me so will be going for that one as an early Xmas prezzi for my car :)
Sound advice lads cheers for the help :thumb: |
Originally Posted by boosted
(Post 11567495)
Saves running an extra sensor for the sake of it, just another expense when it goes wrong. Plus the wideband will be more accurate, and if your clever you can lean off the closed loop for better fuel economy
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I run an Innovate MTX-L and use the simulated narrowband. works really well and as mentioned you can get it to lie to the ECU to save a bit of fuel but not much. It was faultless for 18 months then the sensor died. Replaced with the correct one from bosch and its all good apart from one or 2 glitches, probably down to a bad earth, usually after i have been fiddling about under the bonnet.
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Originally Posted by scoobyricht
(Post 11567604)
I run an Innovate MTX-L and use the simulated narrowband. works really well and as mentioned you can get it to lie to the ECU to save a bit of fuel but not much. It was faultless for 18 months then the sensor died. Replaced with the correct one from bosch and its all good apart from one or 2 glitches, probably down to a bad earth, usually after i have been fiddling about under the bonnet.
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