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strawberryhead 26 August 2014 05:01 PM

Correct

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:04 PM

Some of you guys are incredible, there is a CON ARTIST on the lose and all you want to do is criticise the victim and play detective to see how you could of done better.

Just because he may have got away with it in the past doesn't mean that everyone should just roll over and put it down to experience, thats how these people manage to continue ripping people off.

I dont think for a minute that you couldn't fall for it, these guys are very very good at what they do, its their way of life and are experts at what they do.

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499823)
Some of you guys are incredible, there is a CON ARTIST on the lose and all you want to do is criticise the victim and play detective to see how you could of done better.

Just because he may have got away with it in the past doesn't mean that everyone should just roll over and put it down to experience, thats how these people manage to continue ripping people off.

I dont think for a minute that you couldn't fall for it, these guys are very very good at what they do, its their way of life and are experts at what they do.

what are you talking about?? if you hand over your car etc to a man you dont know or for that matter paypal someone a deposit for a car without seeing it etc.
then its your own fault for being so fecking stupid:cuckoo:

ditchmyster 26 August 2014 05:07 PM

There's only one way to deal with people like this.:thumb:

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11499816)
One thing is for sure, you'll get no joy from the police until he gets caught speeding in one of the said motors ;) then the registered keeper will get a NIP in the post and all hell will break lose.:lol1:

Good advice, just roll over and do nothing then in a few years complain how sh1t the police are when you've not given them a chance.

strawberryhead 26 August 2014 05:08 PM

Kick in the balls

ditchmyster 26 August 2014 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499829)
Good advice, just roll over and do nothing then in a few years complain how sh1t the police are when you've not given them a chance.

What you banging on about now. Your sadly mistaken if you think i'd either roll over or go to the police.:thumb:

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11499827)
what are you talking about?? if you hand over your car etc to a man you dont know or for that matter paypal someone a deposit for a car without seeing it etc.
then its your own fault for being so fecking stupid:cuckoo:

The op knew the guy for 2 YEARS before handing over his keys, and as for PayPal, wrong thread.

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499832)
The op knew the guy for 2 YEARS before handing over his keys, and as for PayPal, wrong thread.

and.............the paypal reference was about stupidity in another thread.

didnt know him that well obviously did he as he cant find him:thumb:

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:14 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 11499831)
What you banging on about now. Your sadly mistaken if you think i'd either roll over or go to the police.:thumb:

Sadly mistaken, my point is you should go to the police and you've just said you wouldn't, let me guess, you would handle it old skool and go medieval on his ass.

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11499834)
and.............the paypal reference was about stupidity in another thread.

didnt know him that well obviously did he as he cant find him:thumb:

You have a point with the other thread, although he might get his money back from PayPal so if that's the case then not so stupid but thats a discussion for the other thread.

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499843)
You have a point with the other thread, although he might get his money back from PayPal so if that's the case then not so stupid but thats a discussion for the other thread.

so handing over keys and a v5 for a bloke to sell your car for you isnt stupidity then???

if he knew him for two years he surely would know where he bloody lived:thumb:

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11499848)
so handing over keys and a v5 for a bloke to sell your car for you isnt stupidity then???

if he knew him for two years he surely would know where he bloody lived:thumb:

My first post that you referenced to was about the op who knew the seller for 2 years, you are now talking about a different guy and quite frankly I dont know.

And as for knowing where he lived, well isn't it easy to sit behind you're keyboard attacking people.

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499862)
My first post that you referenced to was about the op who knew the seller for 2 years, you are now talking about a different guy and quite frankly I dont know.

all i can say is its sad that a genuine bloke has been ripped off, but as in most these cases they have lost money due to doing something stupid be it paypal gift to a stranger or handing over keys and v5s

Carnut 26 August 2014 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11499864)
all i can say is its sad that a genuine bloke has been ripped off, but as in most these cases they have lost money due to doing something stupid be it paypal gift to a stranger or handing over keys and v5s

The op has said that he has been stupid or something to that affect but how does rubbing salt in his wounds help.

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499870)
The op has said that he has been stupid or something to that affect but how does rubbing salt in his wounds help.

whos rubbing salt in his wounds?, jesus everyone makes mistakes. some people even bought a 2.5.

jayallen 26 August 2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11499823)
Some of you guys are incredible, there is a CON ARTIST on the lose and all you want to do is criticise the victim and play detective to see how you could of done better.

Just because he may have got away with it in the past doesn't mean that everyone should just roll over and put it down to experience, thats how these people manage to continue ripping people off.

I dont think for a minute that you couldn't fall for it, these guys are very very good at what they do, its their way of life and are experts at what they do.

Is there not one thread on this board you haven't poked your nose in? :rolleyes:

fat-thomas 26 August 2014 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 11499875)
Is there not one thread on this board you haven't poked your nose in? :rolleyes:

:lol1::thumb:

LuckyWelshchap 26 August 2014 06:19 PM

Ladies and gents, might I remind ourselves of Post #1:


Originally Posted by S204Darren (Post 11499541)
This guy needs to be stopped once and for all .

Anyone with dealings prior or currently please post here and lets finish his reign of terror on the Subaru community.

He prays on anyone,he will show you lots of shiny parts all super high end stuff Pretend to be your best friend,come and have dinner with your family then take your car and your money.

The police need info so we can put an end to this

He is known to operate in

Gloucestershire,Wiltshire,Birmingham,London,Wales and probably further afield

There are many cars and parts missing and not to mention ££££££


WE WILL ARRANGE A SCOOBY MEET TO SIT DOWN WITH EVERYONE WHO HAS HAD UNHAPPY DEALINGS DETAILS TO BE CONFIRMED

  • "Anyone with dealings prior or currently please post here".
    It's a clear enough request isn't it?
    The reason of course is that anything else clutters up the thread (and of course leads to other irrelevant posts).
  • "The police need info so we can put an end to this".
    So any info obtained will form a dossier that should persuade the police that it is in the public interest to go after this guy and hopefully they'll be able to persuade their bosses to get a team on it.
    That mean this thread will possibly be used, both for circumstancial evidence and details of victims and vehicles misappropriated.
Hopefully the guy will face justice.

If and when he's in court I don't think his brief will be cross-examining a Crown witness with 'I put it to you Mr Victim that you were a stupid b'stad handing over your keys and V5'.
And I don't think the case for the Defence would end with 'Members of the Jury, the Prosecution has simply trailed out one stupid gullible prat after another. How can they possibly be credible?'

Looks like there's a chance for SN to be a big help here.

Op's stepped up to the plate and warned us.
Don't you think we should recognise that and help as much as possible, not hinder?


jayallen 26 August 2014 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by LuckyWelshchap (Post 11499915)


Looks like there's a chance for SN to be a big help here.




You obviously didn't read my post/posts regarding the previous attempt to catch this guy wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy before you and Chris j t were members of the board?

Its still unclear whether this is just going over old ground regarding this South African fella or a whole new list of people he has stitched up.....

scoobyboy1 26 August 2014 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by fat-thomas (Post 11499872)
whos rubbing salt in his wounds?, jesus everyone makes mistakes. some people even bought a 2.5.

:hjtwofing

:D

joe v3sti 26 August 2014 06:59 PM


Originally Posted by S204Darren (Post 11499693)
Just received a private message form another victim! I`ve since spoken to him on the phone and this Scmit character was given his P1 over 3 years ago to build an engine etc and he`s not seen the car since.How many more!!??



How on earth do you end up in this position. Had someone done this to me, I would find them one way or another. And he would get sorted out

Scrappy9 26 August 2014 08:38 PM

Everyone deals with things in different ways, some are happy to tackle things personally others prefer a legal approach.

In my experience seeking out individuals and trying to resolve things yourself doesn't get your money back, that said sadly l doubt the people that have been ripped off will ever get a proper financial settlement though they might have the satisfaction of seeing the con man in court.

joe v3sti 26 August 2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Scrappy9 (Post 11500085)
Everyone deals with things in different ways, some are happy to tackle things personally others prefer a legal approach.

In my experience seeking out individuals and trying to resolve things yourself doesn't get your money back, that said sadly l doubt the people that have been ripped off will ever get a proper financial settlement though they might have the satisfaction of seeing the con man in court.



I agree it's not going to get your money, not a nice situation to be in I'm sure.
Feel for you Darren

S204Darren 26 August 2014 09:54 PM

Thanks Joe STI for the support. Can people please read why this thread was started. I came onto this forum thinking that it was a place where like minded people helped each other out and share these wonderfull cars to say I'm disappointed is an understatement! But thank you to the those who have shown there support. So please if anyone else has any experiences with this man please post here.

ossett2k2 26 August 2014 10:08 PM

I hope you get this all sorted out Darren. Most of us do appreciate the heads up on sick ripoff merchants like this. Others just like to turn every decent thread into playground arguments! Fortunately this is a minority and most decent lads n lasses on here love to help out where possible. Good luck with catching this scum

Dirk Diggler 75 26 August 2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by ossett2k2 (Post 11500183)
I hope you get this all sorted out Darren. Most of us do appreciate the heads up on sick ripoff merchants like this. Others just like to turn every decent thread into playground arguments! Fortunately this is a minority and most decent lads n lasses on here love to help out where possible. Good luck with catching this scum

+1 ....:thumb:

XDevil666 26 August 2014 10:14 PM

no one reported it stolen?

S204Darren 26 August 2014 10:15 PM

Thanks guys

S204Darren 26 August 2014 10:21 PM

We keep being told its a civil matter by the Police but after seeking legal advice we now know if we can prove he has done on a regular basis it's possible he will arrested.


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