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frankyurry 22 August 2014 08:31 PM

What head light bulbs??
 
Right been looking to replace my hb3 & h1 head light bulbs any recommendations and what will not damage the plastic?? Many thanks.

alcazar 23 August 2014 09:33 AM

Go for any of the branded so called uprated bulbs, like Halfords Ultra Brilliance, (when on BOGOF), Philips Extreme, Ring 120% uprated, Osram Nightbreaker etc. All can be found at decent prices on t'internet.

DO NOT buy higher wattage bulbs.
DO NOT buy cheap copies.
AVOID so called Xenon bulbs, blue bulbs etc.
DON'T be fooled by PIAA hype, they are the same as the above but twice the price and more.

sedge69 23 August 2014 11:51 AM

what about replacing H1 and H7 bulbs with LED ones, would that be ok

sorry to butt in frankyurry

fawor 23 August 2014 12:35 PM

I have philips nightguide 3in1 , one just gone and I bought osram unlimited 12.80 on ebay, swapped one at a moment,id like to compare them at night on rain, looks light unlimited is brighter but could blind You on night with wet road,when 3in1 is developed to avoid it.
Thats about h1
Hb3 ive got osram nightbraker plus ,very good:thumb:

alcazar 24 August 2014 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by sedge69 (Post 11497233)
what about replacing H1 and H7 bulbs with LED ones, would that be ok

sorry to butt in frankyurry


Not sure that LED technology is far enough advanced for seeing by yet.

ditchmyster 24 August 2014 10:26 AM

Just replaced all 4 fronts for osram night breakers and the difference is night and day.:D

Much brighter and whiter than the ones that were in and a cheap replacement I got when one blew recently, which is what led me to the night breakers. After fitting 2 dipped beam ones I noticed immediately how much better they were so bit the bullet on the more expensive high beam ones and all I can say is I'm happy I did. Mind you the ones that were in there were in when I bought the car 3yrs ago so thought I might as well splash out, and keep the others in the car for emergency.:thumb:

fawor 24 August 2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by fawor (Post 11497250)
I have philips nightguide 3in1 , one just gone and I bought osram unlimited 12.80 on ebay, swapped one at a moment,id like to compare them at night on rain, looks light unlimited is brighter but could blind You on night with wet road,when 3in1 is developed to avoid it.
Thats about h1
Hb3 ive got osram nightbraker plus ,very good:thumb:

ok just after first night driving and osram are about 30% worst than philips 3in1, shorter distance covered and thinner.(maybe I bought ebay crap)
thats a lot for h1 bulb, I notice my bulb socket blown( replaced when osram fitted) and maybe if im lucky 3in1 will work again :thumb:as looking good only titanium burning on it.
need to find it in the bin:brickwall

Manford 02 September 2014 04:46 PM

Where did you get your bulbs from?

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 10:27 AM

I'm just looking through Ebay atm to get an idea of what's about for a good upgrade.
I'm looking at Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited and Ring Ultima what else is about that's up there with these bulbs please?

fawor 12 September 2014 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Manford (Post 11505452)
Where did you get your bulbs from?

looks like 3in1 is discontinued,only at ebay.pl they've got stock,

Originally Posted by EOEUMC (Post 11513285)
I'm just looking through Ebay atm to get an idea of what's about for a good upgrade.
I'm looking at Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited and Ring Ultima what else is about that's up

Could sell You mine osram nightbraker unlimited H1
,I fitted 1 and dont like it,needs to check maybe mine 3in1 works.

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by fawor (Post 11513293)
Could sell You mine osram nightbraker unlimited H1
,I fitted 1 and dont like it,needs to check maybe mine 3in1 works.

I need H4 fitment :(

Also if a bulb says it will fit say an Audi TT but is still a H4 fitment will it still fit and have the correct beam for any other car?
Just I have found the Osram nightbreaker ultimate to fit Audi TT for like £3 cheaper. I know its not a lot but.... For the same bulb :)

fawor 12 September 2014 01:39 PM

you answered yourself above
h4 fitment;)

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by fawor (Post 11513411)
you answered yourself above
h4 fitment;)

I didn't ask what bulb fitment I wanted, it was what's the best/better ones to have Osram, Ring or what else is as good :)

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 04:42 PM

Another thought was for me to go down the HID route but do you need to have the washer jets and self leveling lights still or is there something else you need to have either or as well?

:thumb:

alcazar 12 September 2014 05:37 PM

Let's answer you first question first: H4 is H4...whichever bulb you buy, it will fit.


Another thought was for me to go down the HID route but do you need to have the washer jets and self leveling lights still or is there something else you need to have either or as well?
Ok, to start with, let me be quite clear: I WOULD NOT GO HID WITH AN H4 BULB!!!

The reasons are complicated, but to try and simplify: the H4 is twin filament. The two filaments are quite close, one doing dip, one doing main beam. They are also shaped for the reflector in use and positioned to withing 0.1mm to give accurate beam patter, cutoff and low scatter.

Sadly, no-one has yet invented a twin burner HID for H4. The H4 HID kits rely on a system that moves the burner...and it's not accurate enough. Add to that the FACT that the HID burner is a different shape to a halogen filament, a different size and aligned differently, and you can see, I hope, that an H4 "bulb" simply turn what is a poor headlight anyway, into awful...LOADS of scatter and not much more light. What you usually get is ACCEPTABLE dip, (since that's the bit that the MoT tester will look at), and AWFUL main beam. You can find some kits with those two reversed and I've also seen others which were just God-awful...worse than standard halogen.:(

Lastly, the bit about headlamp washers and leveling. The regs ACTUALLY say that IF headlamp washers and leveling are fitted, they must work. There is NO requirement to have either.

HTH

BTW: Can't answer about the choice Osram/Ring, mine has proper HID in projectors, running a proper HID burner, not a halogen replacement. TBH, that's the way to go, but you need the clear headlights from the 99>> cars.

See here: https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...mpler-way.html

And for pics of the output of my setup with Morettes before I went HID projector, see here: https://www.scoobynet.com/technical-...-lamp-kit.html post 26.

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 07:37 PM

Most of that went over my head :( lol
The reason why I asked about the HID's is that I have just ordered some for my Lincoln limo and I was told that unless they were self leveling lights with washers it would fail an mot. So was just wondering if it was the same across the board for all cars? The fitment on the Lincoln is H9007 and what I have ordered is hi and low.

I decided not to go down the crystal route on this classic for now but went clear across all lights. And tbh I am swinging towards the Osram Ultimate. I do like what you done with your lights though, they looked really smart and different :thumb:

alcazar 12 September 2014 08:04 PM

Hmmmmmmmm.
Hi and Low? So TWO PAIRS of bulbs?

Should be reasonable, it's only really h4 that's a total messup.

And no, you should be OK with MoT unless the beam pattern is all over...which is possible with cheaper kits, since the bulbs aren't made accurately...the accuracy needs to be +/- 0.1mm, no more.
Cheap bulbs can be as much as +/- 1mm, and that includes halogens:(

fawor 12 September 2014 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by EOEUMC (Post 11513449)
I didn't ask what bulb fitment I wanted, it was what's the best/better ones to have Osram, Ring or what else is as good :)

below is your question,where is anything about whats better:freak3:
you found cheaper ver h4 for audi and asked about fitment
following with your thinking soon you will tell as You ask about xenons instead hids



Also if a bulb says it will fit say an Audi TT but is still a H4 fitment will it still fit and have the correct beam for any other car?
Just I have found the Osram nightbreaker ultimate to fit Audi TT for like £3 cheaper. I know its not a lot but.... For the same bulb :)[/QUOTE]

EOEUMC 12 September 2014 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11513701)
Hmmmmmmmm.
Hi and Low? So TWO PAIRS of bulbs?

Nope, 1 bulb in each light but the the little filament inside moves slightly upwards making the beam higher, or so its supposed to anyway :) lol


Fawor, I meant the question about what lights/bulbs are better and you meant the fitment. So wires crossed there :D And I thought that H4's were the same, but just wanted to double check. So I ordered the Audi TT ones for £10.98p

alcazar 13 September 2014 02:17 AM

Oh dear.....those are the total abortion of a bulb I was on about.........

EOEUMC 13 September 2014 10:07 AM

What Osram Nightbreaker Ultimate? Or you talking about the HID's which I got about a month ago? :)

TMX 13 September 2014 03:43 PM

The order of performance I've found in H4 fitment:
Standard/stock bulbs you get for a few quid
Osram Nightbreakers Unlimited
PIAA Plasma GTX (JDM/USDM only not available in the UK without importing)
HID Retrofit WITH projectors so you're not using your standard halogen housings which can scatter light, dazzle and fail an MOT, as above

I got my HID stuff from these guys: http://www.theretrofitsource.com/com...trsdefaultview

alcazar 13 September 2014 04:41 PM


Originally Posted by EOEUMC (Post 11513924)
What Osram Nightbreaker Ultimate? Or you talking about the HID's which I got about a month ago? :)

The HIDs.

EOEUMC 13 September 2014 07:19 PM

Cheers TMX :thumb:


Originally Posted by alcazar (Post 11514084)
The HIDs.

That's not so bad as probably wont fit them anyway :)


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