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David Lock 04 August 2014 02:26 PM

Gaddafi
 
Anyone watch that programme on Gaddafi last night?

Obviously I knew that Gaddafi was an evil b,astard but even if half the programme was true the extent of his brutality was staggering.

Towards the end his madness overtook him and he lost all his Arab and African friends apart from Idi Amin who had murdered around half a million Ugandans,

And as his regime was collapsing a smiling Tony Blair turned up and gave Gaddafi the final chance to recover some credibility even though it cost him dearly. Coincidentally BP signed a billion pound deal the next day. Well I never.

But it's only fair to point out that Blair did persuade Gaddafi to give up his nuclear plans and stop the Cemtex supply to the IRA.

All very frightening really and tragic that Libya hasn't grasped the nettle now that the Gaddafi regime has gone.

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f1_fan 04 August 2014 02:45 PM

I find the timing of that programme and its leaning somewhat suspect to be frank!

stipete75 04 August 2014 04:50 PM

The world Mainstream media machine working at its finest.
Gaddafi gave his people a true democracy, the libyan people were directly involved in every decision, a true democracy.
In contrast, us the people in Western nations have almost no say in political matters, its our corrupt "representatives" the banks and the politicians who call the shots, not us.
Gaddafi was a hero to his people,it's the western mainstream media that portrayed him as a monster.

RA Dunk 04 August 2014 04:58 PM

Like him or loath him he kept the whole area in check.

specialx 04 August 2014 04:59 PM

http://www.democraticunderground.com...ss=439x2179639

specialx 04 August 2014 04:59 PM


Originally Posted by RA Dunk (Post 11483556)
Like him or loath him he kept the whole area in check.


So Did Hitler ;)

Martin2005 04 August 2014 05:10 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11483487)
I find the timing of that programme and its leaning somewhat suspect to be frank!

Why, did it clash with The Great British Bake Off?

f1_fan 04 August 2014 05:16 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 11483570)
Why, did it clash with The Great British Bake Off?

NO, but it did clash with Libya becoming too dangerous for the British Embassy to remain open and many questions starting to be asked (finally) about our involvement there a few years ago. Another of your wonderful PM's bright ideas :Whatever_

Oh and yes I did say at the time it would end in tears! Much like Iraq!

stipete75 04 August 2014 05:31 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 11483570)
Why, did it clash with The Great British Bake Off?

Haha, that was funny for you Martin.
Made me chuckle:lol1:

Paben 04 August 2014 09:34 PM

I worked in Libya during Gaddafi's era and found the average person to be happy-go-lucky with plenty of opportunities to start and run businesses, own cars and generally enjoy a better lifestyle than many people in other Arab countries. As a foreigner I felt a lot less oppressed there than I ever have in Saudi for instance.

Martin2005 04 August 2014 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by stipete75 (Post 11483547)
Gaddafi gave his people a true democracy, the libyan people were directly involved in every decision, a true democracy.

Remind me, how many general elections did he win?

zip106 04 August 2014 09:56 PM

mettle

A nettle would sting if you grasped it :)

f1_fan 04 August 2014 10:00 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 11483889)
Remind me, how many general elections did he win?

As many as Cameron!

stipete75 04 August 2014 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 11483907)
As many as Cameron!

:thumb:

Martin2005 04 August 2014 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by stipete75 (Post 11483908)
:thumb:

So none then

Doesn't feel like a 'true democracy' to me

f1_fan 04 August 2014 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 11483912)
So none then

Doesn't feel like a 'true democracy' to me

I know, but neither is Libya!

dpb 04 August 2014 10:13 PM

Yep now Every tom dick and harry can now have ago at taking power

Paben 04 August 2014 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 11483889)
Remind me, how many general elections did he win?

Check out the UAE, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrain, in fact most Arab countries before you quote Gaddafi's inadequacies; no sign of democratic rule in any of them. The so-called Arab Spring ended with military rule in Egypt and we all know about Syria. In fact the only truly 'free' country in the Middle East is Israel.

Martin2005 04 August 2014 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11483964)
Check out the UAE, Yemen, Qatar, Bahrain, in fact most Arab countries before you quote Gaddafi's inadequacies; no sign of democratic rule in any of them. The so-called Arab Spring ended with military rule in Egypt and we all know about Syria. In fact the only truly 'free' country in the Middle East is Israel.

Are you asking me to defend the other tyrannical governments in the region?

btw I'm not sure which 'quotes' you are referring to

Jamie 05 August 2014 05:00 PM

Yes same one they put on the tv three years ago.


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