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Paben 01 August 2014 09:59 AM

Wheel failures
 
As an overspill from another on-going thread on SNG I was just wondering: how many people have actually experienced wheel failure on track or road and what brand of wheels? Personal experience please rather than hearsay!

JGlanzaV 01 August 2014 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by Paben (Post 11480896)
As an overspill from another on-going thread on SNG I was just wondering: how many people have actually experienced wheel failure on track or road and what brand of wheels? Personal experience please rather than hearsay!

Seen 2 pairs of inovite rip off stuff crack around the spokes and one rota physically crack on road use.

Also got 3 cracked alloys on my vxr (std vauxhall)

urban 01 August 2014 10:25 AM

Ripoff wheels are cheaper for a reason.

RA Dunk 01 August 2014 10:34 AM

I know of at least three wheel failures after powder coating.

urban 01 August 2014 11:19 AM

Yeah, but powder coating weakens wheels anyway.

fat-thomas 01 August 2014 11:29 AM

Not a failure but the finish on my xxrs is crap.they are cheap for a reason. They are sh1te.
Luckily being a clit wheel they are easy to sell on and buy a decent set.

328isport 01 August 2014 12:13 PM

Not only cheap wheels, BMW had major problems with their 19s found on e90/92's a few years back, used to get loads in that had cracked, I don't think very low profile runflats helped..

Carnut 01 August 2014 12:29 PM

The golf r has had big wheel failures.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgur...d=0CC0QMygPMA8

MattyB1983 01 August 2014 04:38 PM


Originally Posted by RA Dunk (Post 11480927)
I know of at least three wheel failures after powder coating.

Standard wheels or aftermarket ???

Turbotits 01 August 2014 04:57 PM

I see a fair few bmw's at work with cracked o/e rims.

RA Dunk 01 August 2014 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by MattyB1983 (Post 11481144)
Standard wheels or aftermarket ???

Both actually.

FroSt1 01 August 2014 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by RA Dunk (Post 11481163)
Both actually.

Only if done incorrectly, as I found out to my cost. :(

Paulo P 01 August 2014 05:33 PM

Bonesetter on here had a standard wheel fail after powdercoating :eek:

Paulo P 01 August 2014 05:36 PM

https://www.scoobynet.com/wheels-tyr...ather-off.html

Carnut 01 August 2014 05:47 PM

Some very interesting information and potentially life saving if you take it to the extreme. I wouldn't have thought twice about getting some wheels powder coated, just goes to show.

Steve T 01 August 2014 05:50 PM

My car had inovit replicas when I bought it. When I went to get new tyres the tyre fitter pointed out a crack across one of the spokes which you could see daylight through.:eek: Steve.

scoobyboy1 01 August 2014 06:02 PM

Brother had a Redline PFF7 replica fail on him, have a look at the shape of the wheel on the picture, this was hitting a pot hole at 30mph!!!:mad:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2.jpg~original

53 01 August 2014 06:05 PM

PFF7's are rocketship money and crack quite readily. Cheap doesn't always mean weak, infact it normally means they weigh half a tonne :D

Had OE, powdercoated and painted and never had a problem. You can never be sure the stresses a wheel has been subjected to in it's lifetime, refurb implies they have been kerbed or well used :)

I buy most wheels new and my Rotas were all spot on. You can't really criticise a second hand wheel which has been powdercoated and failed and blame the make IMHO. I know loads of people using Rotas for track and not heard of any failures bought new. If they fail, they fail for a reason such as impact or poor workmanship on refurbishment.

The WRX wheels that Nigel had crack regardless of powdercoating. Maggs I believe had 2 OE WRX wheels in that were cracked. It's not the evil people make out, the quality of the process is only as good as the outfit doing it :)

Powdercoating is certainly a better longer lasting finish if done properly, but painting suits a pretty wheel more show bound :)

Although the finish could have been better, the wheels I put through Lepsons for various people have all been abused on track and survived since 2008 :)

MattyB1983 01 August 2014 06:10 PM

I've had wheels powder coated without issues, my pal who does them for me has coated hundreds of wheels for all types of vehicles and uses. He's never had a failure to his knowledge.
I think the wheel failures you see/hear about come down to cheap poor quality wheels themselves and/or poor powder coating methods.
Some of these replica wheels like the one above can be bought for peanuts, if you think a brand spanking new set of wheels for under £400 is going to be decent quality then you're very much mistaken.

Tyre-fitter 01 August 2014 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by 328isport (Post 11480993)
Not only cheap wheels, BMW had major problems with their 19s found on e90/92's a few years back, used to get loads in that had cracked, I don't think very low profile runflats helped..

Ive seen plenty BMW wheels crack especially the 18's & 19's they are crap.

Andy.

fawor 01 August 2014 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by scoobyboy1 (Post 11481218)
Brother had a Redline PFF7 replica fail on him, have a look at the shape of the wheel on the picture, this was hitting a pot hole at 30mph!!!:mad:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y16...2.jpg~original

Could happened if he jump 2m and landed with one wheel catching pathole:lol1:
No way, ive drove approx 5k miles abroad with so ****ty roads there and nothing happened on my asuka redlines.

Smkxh95 01 August 2014 11:38 PM

I had a brand new fiesta St hit a pothole punctured two pirrelli p zero tyres and buckled two wheels. Was out in sunny Norfolk after loads of rain. Although cost me over 700 to put right but got money back from council so that was a bonus.

RRP1STI 02 August 2014 12:09 AM

IMO tyres-or rather profiles have a lot to do with this subject,any tyre with a 35 or lower profile, regardless of diameter has virtually no sidewall,therefore any contact with even a minor pothole on our tremendous UK back roads is going to result in some kind of damage-at the very least tyre damage,but more often than not a bent,buckled or cracked wheel.

MattyB1983 02 August 2014 09:53 AM


Originally Posted by RRP1STI (Post 11481670)
IMO tyres-or rather profiles have a lot to do with this subject,any tyre with a 35 or lower profile, regardless of diameter has virtually no sidewall,therefore any contact with even a minor pothole on our tremendous UK back roads is going to result in some kind of damage-at the very least tyre damage,but more often than not a bent,buckled or cracked wheel.


This ^^^^ :thumb:


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