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Kenny_Powers 17 April 2014 10:26 AM

WRX Bootlid Torsion Springs On STi Spoiler?
 
Hi Folks

I recently put a Scoobyworld STi replica spoiler on my Hawkeye WRX, and as everyone knows, the spoiler is too heavy for the standard torsion springs to be able to lift the bootlid. Even more annoying is because there is no tension on the lock, the lid rattles over bumps.

Now...with the spoiler kit came a couple of little U clamps. I'm wondering if these are meant for modifying/loading the torsion springs in some way? If they are for that purpose, does anyone know how and where exactly they attach?

I may be totally wrong but I can't think of any other reason why they are in the kit, and there are 2 of them, like there are two springs.

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 April 2014 11:26 AM

:wonder:Not sure, is it worth poping up a picture of them.

BrownPantsRacing 17 April 2014 11:31 AM

Can't think how it's possible to modify the torsion springs with U clamps.

Mine never rattled with teh STI spoiler on the WRX springs. Suspect you need to adjust your lock.

Gambit 17 April 2014 11:42 AM

that rattle will be the spoiler itself

ever seen STI bootlid springs on a WRX bootlid. its funny, it reckon you could use it as a catapult

BrownPantsRacing 17 April 2014 12:25 PM

lol

Kenny_Powers 17 April 2014 01:22 PM

It's defo the bootlid rattling, it's got about 2mm of play on the lock. The spoiler ain't going nowhere with the amount of bolts that hold the thing on, and the spoiler itself is solidly built, not like some of the cheap eBay ones.

Good point about adjusting the lock, BPR, I'm gonna have a look and see if I can do that. I'm not really bothered that the boot lid doesn't spring up, it's the annoying rattle that I've got to sort!

I will get some pics of the clamps put up later, but to give you an idea, they are exactly like exhaust U clamps but vey small, about half an inch long.

Right I'm going outside to see if there is any way to adjust the lock.

BrownPantsRacing 17 April 2014 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by Kenny_Powers (Post 11406641)
I will get some pics of the clamps put up later, but to give you an idea, they are exactly like exhaust U clamps but vey small, about half an inch long.

Nipple clamps?

Kenny_Powers 17 April 2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 11406647)
Nipple clamps?

Lol yeah I suppose they could be used for that if that was someone's thing...

Anyway I've just had a look at the latch and there is no way of adjusting it, but it seems that usually, the springs are pushing the bootlid upwards and creating tension on the latch so that the boot springs open when the lever is pulled....which is all obvious.....but cos the spring is so weak against the weight of the spoiler, it takes very little effort to push the bootlid down a mm or two which is causing the rattle over bumps.

The only way I'm gonna sort this is to get some STi springs.

BrownPantsRacing 17 April 2014 01:41 PM

Something isn't right there. There are adjustments that can be made to the closure of the bootlid. Do all the panels line up ok gaps wise? Mine has no movement in the latch even if no springs are fitted.

Shouldn't have to use the STI springs to hold the lid up. Thats not right. Besides, with my STI springs the bootlid still doesn't fly open when unlocked. It sits shut until I pull it upwards, but saves me slamming the boot with enough force to cut the planet in half. Is well balanced so don't suspect it will provide the uplift you are hoping for to stop the rattle.

Kenny_Powers 17 April 2014 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 11406656)
Something isn't right there. There are adjustments that can be made to the closure of the bootlid. Do all the panels line up ok gaps wise? Mine has no movement in the latch even if no springs are fitted. Shouldn't have to use the STI springs to hold the lid up. Thats not right. Besides, with my STI springs the bootlid still doesn't fly open when unlocked. It sits shut until I pull it upwards, but saves me slamming the boot with enough force to cut the planet in half. Is well balanced so don't suspect it will provide the uplift you are hoping for to stop the rattle.

Thing is though, it didn't rattle at all with the WRX spoiler on.

The gaps look ok but strangely enough, a while back, I took my car through a mechanical car wash (yeah I know that's terrible, and I haven't done it since), and a couple of days later all the paint on the bootlid bubbled up. No other panel was affected at all.....so the bootlid must have had different paint on it. I'm wondering if it was removed for painting at some point, and not put back on quite right?

BrownPantsRacing 17 April 2014 02:16 PM

Mine rattles with teh STI spoiler and didn't with the WRX one fitted. Closes fine with no play & I have STI springs. Just put mine down to the spoiler!

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 April 2014 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing (Post 11406680)
Mine rattles with teh STI spoiler and didn't with the WRX one fitted. Closes fine with no play & I have STI springs. Just put mine down to the spoiler!

I have a rattle too, but I'm putting that down to the shocks, although torsion bars may be a cheaper solution lol.:wonder:

ukjesters 17 April 2014 02:59 PM

I've just put some sti torsion springs in me spec d, it had the wrx ones in as it's meant to have the smaller spoiler on it, but the previous owner had changed it for an sti one.

Total difference, boot now lifts up via the internal boot release lever, won't drop down & slam shut as it used to, and no more rattles. Dead easy to fit & cheap to buy from a breakers. Got mine from one of the breakers on here, think it was mattyB?
HTH
regards
Rick

Cpt Jack Sparrow 17 April 2014 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by ukjesters (Post 11406713)
I've just put some sti torsion springs in me spec d, it had the wrx ones in as it's meant to have the smaller spoiler on it, but the previous owner had changed it for an sti one.

Total difference, boot now lifts up via the internal boot release lever, won't drop down & slam shut as it used to, and no more rattles. Dead easy to fit & cheap to buy from a breakers. Got mine from one of the breakers on here, think it was mattyB?
HTH
regards
Rick

See now that has me conviced to buy a set... just for the hell of it.....:thumb:

ukjesters 17 April 2014 03:55 PM

Just checked, got mine from mattybr5@mb developments.
Wished I'd done it sooner & not waited til I'd had the car for 3 years!!! LoL

Jonnys3 22 March 2015 04:48 PM

Any chance you can post a pic of what these springs look like - I think I might need the same solution - just bought a hawkeye with a prodrive spoiler and the boot lid slams shut pretty hastily and won't open via the boot catch.

Kenny_Powers 23 March 2015 09:17 AM

Hi mate, sorry I no longer own the car so can't take a pic. What you are looking for is two thin metal bars that go through lugs on the hinged end of the boot lid, and through lugs on the body, they have a couple of right angle bends in them. They are torsion bars rather than coiled springs. You need to replace them with some salvaged from an STi. Hope this helps. As someone had said above, Matty at MB developments should be able to sort you out, there's not normally any part he hasn't got.

BrownPantsRacing 23 March 2015 09:37 AM

2 seconds on google. Try it some time! :)

http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNj..._id=880000500F

evil.soup 20 November 2020 01:41 PM

A bit of a thread revival, but my WRX boot spring has snapped after 15 years of having an Sti spoiler, so that's how I came across this thread.

Just in case anyone else ever has the same issue of the boot rattle, I have identified what that was at least. The weight of the spoiler over a short period of time squashes the boot bump stops ever so slightly, this in turn allows enough play for the lock to rattle. Quick solution was to stick on additional rubber to the boot bump stop, job done, no more rattle. If unsure, you can test it by popping a bit of old rag under the bump stop, if the rattle stops, that was your problem. Hope that helps someone in the future. I wasted a ton of money trying to stop the rattle, was even advised by a so called specialist to replace the shocks with coilovers as that was the issue, it bloody wasnt!!

Now to find myself some springs.....

Stan1979 02 August 2021 03:37 PM


Originally Posted by evil.soup (Post 12093432)
A bit of a thread revival, but my WRX boot spring has snapped after 15 years of having an Sti spoiler, so that's how I came across this thread.

Just in case anyone else ever has the same issue of the boot rattle, I have identified what that was at least. The weight of the spoiler over a short period of time squashes the boot bump stops ever so slightly, this in turn allows enough play for the lock to rattle. Quick solution was to stick on additional rubber to the boot bump stop, job done, no more rattle. If unsure, you can test it by popping a bit of old rag under the bump stop, if the rattle stops, that was your problem. Hope that helps someone in the future. I wasted a ton of money trying to stop the rattle, was even advised by a so called specialist to replace the shocks with coilovers as that was the issue, it bloody wasnt!!

Now to find myself some springs.....

Thanks for the info. I've just bought an STI spoiler for my WRX and I'm getting someone to fit it for me in the next couple of weeks. I'll certainly try your trick if it starts to rattle.

I imagine I'll be needing some replacement boot springs as well. Any idea where you plan to get your from?


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