Cameron still thinks he can police the Internet
 

They say stupidity is not when someone makes a mistake, but when they don't learn from it.

Since Cameron made his ill advised pledge about curbing access to a wide range of adult material on the Internet as a way to combat child abuse and thereby (wrongly) linking pornography in general with paedophilia, albeit indirectly, he has been widely criticised for not understanding the problem or how the Internet worls.

Today with Google and Microsoft announicng they are to block search results being displayed for up to 100,000 terms linked to child abuse he is warning that if they don't carry this through properly he will still consider legislation!!!

So did the myriad of legal experts telling him legislation was unenforceable and ultimately ineffective due to the way the Internet works not get through to him??? Seemingly not!

He also seems to think that Google and Microsoft doing this is a huge step to curbing online child porn and paedophiles in general.

Firstly the online issue is far more about hidden search engines, the deep web etc. I seriously doubt there are many people stupid enough to use Google or MS to search for illegal material especially given Google's penchant for 'inadvertently' recording all sorts of data about its user base that it shouldn't!

Secondly preventing access to these images whilst fundamentally a good idea does not get to the root cause of their production, in fact arguably it makes that task harder.

I think once again we see the PM as wanting to be seen to be doing something rather than paying attention to exactly what it is he is doing! A trait of his time as PM frankly!

I see you don't take our illustrious leader serious, Surely he he did enough last time around when he asked us to (lol>>) 'boycott' those bad websites. surely one man can do no more than that in a single lifetime!

He's a complete wanker who is so out of touch with reality that it's not even funny.

This^^^^^^
Especially the last sentence.

Maybe he'll take a leaf out of China when it comes to internet censorship. Perhaps this 'pornography' censorship is a back door to wider censorship and control policy which might lead to the monitoring of every individuals' access to the internet.

Sign of the times, people want o hear what they want to hear, doesnt mater if they know its crap or not.

If we want to sort out the economy once and for all then putting up taxes and reducing spending is the only way to do it.

Problem is if a political party said 'were gonna put up income tax by 2% and solve the countries debt in 3 years' would anyone actualy vote for them.

Even though we know its the only way to solve the problems we have no one would.

Our whole political system is broken.

I think it's purely to send out a message, set down a precedence

What else could it be?

Exactly right.

They are doing the same with coming influx of Romanians and Bulgarians, talking as if they can somehow limit the numbers coming.:wonder:

They can't...but it doesn't seem to stop them saying they will.:mad:

What when they DO come? Lie about the numbers?

Oh...wait...been THERE before!

I read not long ago that he was asked a few questions about cost of living etc. and he was asked a simple question which was something along the lines of "How much is the average loaf of bread" to which his answer was nowhere near the correct figure.

His excuse was that he doesn't buy a loaf of bread as he has a bread maker at home...

What a ****ing nobber.

BBC Breakfast was quite interesting this morning. A guy who worked in child protection explaining that DC appears to have been mis-advised as to how it works and he went on to say that the people that look for these images don't use google or microsoft products.

The fit blonde on the sofa kept saying but isn't it a good idea and the he said well yes but it won't stop those that actively seek this material. It will only likely stop accidental viewing of the images.

Spot on, people that operate in this area would go nowhere near google or any other popular search engine. At best it will stop someone who inadvertently trips over something that they shouldn't. Andy

Sorry Edd, just noticed you said exactly the same thing doh.

Go on then, what's the average cost of a loaf of bread? And no you're not allowed to Google it (not that I would know either way).

I don't think that is the point he is making. It's not the fact he doesn't know what it is, it's that he is trying to purvey an image of himself as being 'down with the commio man' and then instead of just saying 'I don't know as I don't get to the bakers that often these days' he comes up wth some sh1te about having a bread maker!!!

Then on that basis most people aren't 'down with the common man' because I doubt many people could state the price of a loaf when asked at random.

I also can't say I see the problem with saying he has a bread maker, it's not exactly an expensive luxury item. Now if he said he had a man slave called James who hand bakes an artisan loaf for him every morning, then fair game.

We have used this crude measure for years in this country, what is the price for a pint of milk or a loaf of bread. A very quick way of seeing how out of touch someone is!

If you don't know you are out of touch with the hard working man on the street simply put.

Bread between 80p and £2 per loaf

milk approx 50p per pint (-;

Well I suspect a great many could such as the larger number of people squeezed to financial breaking point that have to budget every penny and those that couldn't probably wouldn't claim to be in touch with normal everyday life. Are you seriously saying you never look at the price of a loaf of bread or any other day to day standard household item when doing the weekly shop?

It's not the fact he has one, it's the fact that he now expects us to believe that he or his wife (or James ;) ) makes all their bread in it and they never have a loaf of commercial bread hence why he doesn't know the price rather than just sayng 'as PM I don't have time to pop down to Tesco hence I don't know the price of a loaf of bread, deal with it'..... imagine what Boris' response would be to that question :thumb:

Anyway we are getting away from the topic in hand!

I am a common man in the street and I have no idea how much a loaf of bread or pint of milk costs. I just go to the supermarket and throw them in my basket then pay for them.

What does it prove not knowing how much stuff costs?

Are you sure you don't have a breadmaker or a James? ;)

I don't have a breadmaker but there was a strange noise coming from somewhere recently so it could be a James but I really am not planning on going to find out :D

My bread does seem to last an awful long time so anything is possible :D

Well if an artisan loaf appears on your worktop ... you may have a James;)

Ok I will keep a look out and let you know :D

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-artisan-bread.htm

LOL at this thread now.... talk about diverting from the original subject :lol1: :lol1:

What was the original subject? :D

Dunno, I'm too busy reading the artisan bread link to care :D

Is it Partisan bread if it is a French loaf? :D

99% Percent of people dont understand how the internet works and only know of google for searching, so its just a publicity campain

In a previous job I was tasked with finding a way to identify inappropriate images across a large public sector network.

It was fairly simple look in all archive files for files with known image type file extensions. Some bespoke software was written to inspect all the images whether in archives or not for flesh tones. These images were copied and tagged with the user account where they were stored or created. The threshold started at 90% and worked downwards to around 30%. There were lots of inappropriate images recovered, but nothing illegal was found. I can't remember how many thousand images of Kylie Minogue were found, but she topped the popularity list.

It can't be so difficult to have plugins or filters that work in the same way.

Is it wrong that I'm quite impressed how off topic I managed to send that discussion with just 1 post :lol1:

That's a little harsh. F1 isn't that bad surely ;)

Not at all :lol1: