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Originally Posted by alcazar
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Yeah, I see where you are coming from Les, but where I'd have to disagree is that firstly, we DO make our own laws, nearly 3000 a year in the whole of the Labour reign.
Fully agree with you though that our politicians are fools (or sado-masochistic scum, take your pick) for enforcing every last EU law to the letter. |
Originally Posted by markjmd
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Huge numbers of those were legislation for the sake of legislation though, or bordered on it, which rather proves the point that the scope for writing our own laws here has been squeezed out so far that there's only tinkering around the edges left.
I can think of as many as you want that originated here: Take motoring law for a start...
Originally Posted by markjmd
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Fully agree with you though that our politicians are fools (or sado-masochistic scum, take your pick) for enforcing every last EU law to the letter.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
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Yeah, I see where you are coming from Les, but where I'd have to disagree is that firstly, we DO make our own laws, nearly 3000 a year in the whole of the Labour reign.
Secondly, Euro laws: WE are the only country that enforces every one as far as it can. Why? The others ignore stuff that doesn't suit them, so why can't we? Why DOES our government insist on p*ssing off the UK population by enforcing stupid EC laws, then hold up their hands in horror, and shout, "Not us! Not us! WE didn't do it, it was that nasty EC..." every time anyone complains. Anyone else see an ulterior motive here? Because I do;) I reckon I am seeing the same ulterior motive that you do. Last thing in such a case would they want to upset the Eu. They don't like it up 'em! Les :nono: |
Originally Posted by Leslie
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Oh I also find it difficult to understand why our lot slavishly follow all those poncey edicts that they come out with.
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine. Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it" |
Originally Posted by PeteBrant
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I don't. It is a very convenient veil for the Government of the day to hide behind. Take the Siemens /Bombardier row. The Government said they had to open it up and were bound by the EU.
Can you imagine Germany or France doing the same thing? Of course not. But because it suits the British Government to pay less, they can make the decision and not take any blame for it; "our hands are tied" they whine. Remember that; being "forced by the EU" is another way of saying "yes, we like that legislations a lot, but we don't fancy taking the flak for it" Les |
Looks like all is not going to plan in EU land after the "agreement" last week...Cracks Start To Appear In EU Finance Pact
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Originally Posted by Nimbus
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Looks like all is not going to plan in EU land after the "agreement" last week...Cracks Start To Appear In EU Finance Pact
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Originally Posted by zip106
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Bloody Hell!!! :eek: A YEAR'S salary as a bonus???????
They are just a bunch of merchant bankers, the whole lot of 'em....... |
Wall Street, the Swiss and Hong Kong will be rubbing their hands in glee if this ruling is implemented. It's a nail in the coffin of London being a world leader in finance.
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How far does anyone think we can actually trust the bankers anyway.
We only have to remember how they were recently fiddling the books in order to make "Loadsamoney" for themselves at our expense and eventually to cause a world recession. It is difficult to avoid forming the impression that they are solely out for themselves at all costs and without any real sense of honesty or responsibility. Does working with money tend to generate personal corruption I wonder! I can still remember when one could trust a bank absolutely, seems to be fading away these days! Les :( |
I've concluded my reasoning on this. We join our cousins across the Channel and we suffer what consequences there are to be suffered. It's the only honourable move.
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