Originally Posted by ray54
(Post 12008859)
I can seen where your coming from Andy, but as you have said it's a madhouse on the roads at the best of times, your going to spending more time with the plod, than with your family.
It's just the way it is in this modern age i'm afraid..... I see it the only watched days as road policing is non or virtually non existent. Police forces are coming round to idea of accepting video from dashcam |
Originally Posted by andy97
(Post 12008861)
I see it the only watched days as road policing is non or virtually non existent. Police forces are coming round to idea of accepting video from dashcam
We could even trim down on the felix force....you could well be on a winner hear!!! :thumb: |
Originally Posted by neil-h
(Post 12008797)
So if it was a straw man, why did it justify such a lengthy response?
None the less. By and large all you do is bitch and moan about the police/government/world, very rarely do you present actual alternatives. You really are an establishment stooge aren't you? |
Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 12008836)
Speeding is part cause of accidents though - https://seriousaccidents.com/legal-a...car-accidents/
Of course it has, but NOT disproportionately as it's policed!
Originally Posted by Felix.
(Post 12008836)
Do we just abandon anything speed related and concentrate on mobile phones etc
Cameras are sited for a whole host of reasons - generate cash is not one of them And who has the final say on what the new 'adjusted speed limit' will be - and what happens if drivers break that one? And you get the same as you do now. Except you'll get less in fines because it's no longer a "fakey" limit.:cuckoo: |
Hot day by the sea , local people out with their speed guns on front road
with high vis vests - presumably this is OK |
Hope they get knocked down by someone distracted. THEN he sues them.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008888)
Ah, getting personal, what you do best.
You really are an establishment stooge aren't you? As for being an establishment stooge :lol: There are far more pressing issues in life than speeding legislation, what’s the point in getting all excitable over it. |
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Atleast you lot get massive vans to look out for, this is what I saw on the autobahn this morning (yes the AUTOBAHN). Olive drab cameras hidden behind the barriers. And these are the older bigger ones. |
Like the ones in France.
Neil: maybe if you stopped whining, then having a personal go when anyone disagrees with you, you might not see that sort of response. I guess, what I'm saying is: grow up. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008889)
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Of course it has, but NOT disproportionately as it's policed! No, but police the others proportionately.
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008889)
[/URL]Utter nonsense. I can show you three sites within five miles of my home where they are there EXACTLY for that. Safe roads, one a motorway, the only accidents being completely unavoidable by any known method of policing, and well lit/good sighting. The accidents, one at each site, were NOTHING to do with speeding. One was a drugged up drunk woman who drove wrong way up a motorway!!! One was a 16 year old who stole his mum's car and rolled it on a roundabout at 30mph. One was a drink-driver who crossed two lanes of traffic to hit someone head on at 30mph.
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008889)
[/URL]Loacal council, local people in consultation.
And you get the same as you do now. Except you'll get less in fines because it's no longer a "fakey" limit.:cuckoo: |
All offences are looked at, mobile phones, careless driving, drink driving etc etc. What would you prefer, only prosecute the 5th speeder to bring the figures down a bit. No, thought not. And were the cameras sited there for that specific reason or were other near misses and other accidents taken into consideration too? Just because you have only heard of these specific incidents doesn't mean to say nothing else has happened. Get a grip, man, stop making excuses for the indefensible. You will be saying you are only obeying orders next. So a community meeting takes place and the local residents want more cameras installed to reduce speeding through their village/town. You would be happy then when cameras are put up as a result of this community meeting and the limit is set to a figure that you think is too low. Or a local council puts up speed cameras or other traffic enforcement cameras. What I CANNOT accept is randomly lowered limits, with scam vans every two or three days, for NO REASON. NO accidents, no schools, not even any private access onto the road. It SHOULD be a 40....but isn't. And don't weven get me started on the A5...30, 40, 60, 40, 50, 30, 60, 30, 60 every mile or so, and EVERY FEKKIN LIMIT has a camera. Yet the road doesn't change. |
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The case will have to be null and void (well, in the UK it would be). |
You can bet the Frogs or Belges will still collect the money.
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
(Post 12008928)
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Atleast you lot get massive vans to look out for, this is what I saw on the autobahn this morning (yes the AUTOBAHN). Olive drab cameras hidden behind the barriers. And these are the older bigger ones. The Spanish mobile speed traps are quite sneaky; Usually a totally plain drab coloured Citroen or Peugeot saloon, the only tell is the black radar dome on the grille, and the occupants wearing high viz. Bear in mind it's the law to have a high viz jacket inside the car for every occupant, so they are often used as seat covers, so you end up taking a cynical view of any boring coloured car parked at the side of a road. The difference here is these lot will radio ahead to marked motorbikes to pull you in and fine on the spot. They are all proper Police, unlike the 'operators' used in the UK. That said, there's some cracking roads which have no silly limits nor enforcement...the cliff drops sorts out those that drive badly. ;) |
Originally Posted by ALi-B
(Post 12008965)
The Spanish mobile speed traps are quite sneaky; Usually a totally plain drab coloured Citroen or Peugeot saloon, the only tell is the black radar dome on the grille, and the occupants wearing high viz. Bear in mind it's the law to have a high viz jacket inside the car for every occupant, so they are often used as seat covers, so you end up taking a cynical view of any boring coloured car parked at the side of a road.
The difference here is these lot will radio ahead to marked motorbikes to pull you in and fine on the spot. They are all proper Police, unlike the 'operators' used in the UK. That said, there's some cracking roads which have no silly limits nor enforcement...the cliff drops sorts out those that drive badly. ;) We also get them in between parked cars, in bushes with cam nets on and also peeping through the gaps in armco barriers or on bridges. They also hide them behind sign posts and anything else that hides it, I have even seen them in holes dug in the snow at the side of the road.. But the krauts are honest in their sneekiness, they want to catch you speeding and don't BS you that they are safety cameras. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008937)
Like the ones in France.
Neil: maybe if you stopped whining, then having a personal go when anyone disagrees with you, you might not see that sort of response. I guess, what I'm saying is: grow up. |
Ah, you admit I HAD glory days?
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Travelling on French motorways, you spot a "broken down" car in the distance on the hard shoulder, complete with spare tyre propped up at the back and tailgate open.
But as you pass, you notice the flic lying down full length in the hatch with his laser binocs, and the one in the driver's seat with his laptop recording you. Then, a mile or so further are the motards waiting on the slip road, or IS area to come after you for the money. Modern day highwaymen.:mad: |
Never been nabbed yet in France but then i just use cruise , or did when had car with cruise . Always slightly amazed at being continually passed at by mpv / people carriers travelling AT the limit , no matter what
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LOL, I used to laugh when I took the Scooby to France.
I'd pass something like an Espace at around 90mph, then, within a couple of minutes, he's up my rear bumper, flashing me to get over, and then passes me at 100+mph ....and 9 times out of ten, with a silly little trailer bouncing along behind him. :eek: But hey, he was gonna show me that his "van with windows" was every bit as quick as my Scoob:D |
Originally Posted by dpb
(Post 12009059)
Never been nabbed yet in France but then i just use cruise , or did when had car with cruise . Always slightly amazed at being continually passed at by mpv / people carriers travelling AT the limit , no matter what
Doing 140kph, got a big fine. (Over the legal limit for motorways, let alone the 110). Defend THAT one Felix, THAT trap wasn't about money. LOL Got a bit of my own back, as we were taken to a bank and then the cop-shop to pay. The copper doing one-fingered typing, so while he did, I told my eldest who was around ten, to destroy his office...he did, posters off the wall, stuff out of drawers etc, and I just kept saying Oh dear! Childish, yes, but made me feel a bit better.:) |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12009055)
Ah, you admit I HAD glory days?
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12009066)
Got a bit of my own back, as we were taken to a bank and then the cop-shop to pay. The copper doing one-fingered typing, so while he did, I told my eldest who was around ten, to destroy his office...he did, posters off the wall, stuff out of drawers etc, and I just kept saying Oh dear!
Childish, yes, but made me feel a bit better.:) |
This is why the poor sod can't get a job you know :eek:
Iv done that road too , can't remember the 35 mph . We stopped services soon before it I think |
Nah, he went through school with ADHD, had a tottering time really. Always to blame, even when it wasn't him.
He's got a job as a design engineer now, fingers crossed for it to go OK |
Having worked in engineering for a while, i'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll make it just fine.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008947)
Full of cr@p again, I see. Just HOW are these other offences policed? EVERY DAY of the week by dedicated paid officers?
No, thought not.
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008947)
More utter bullshine. NO other accidents there. No-one complaining about speeding.
Get a grip, man, stop making excuses for the indefensible. You will be saying you are only obeying orders next. Every near miss, every accident, every council meeting, every community meeting - does it all get passed through you first does it?
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12008947)
That's what I said didn't I? Or did you fail to understand that too?
Or will you remain unhappy that the meeting has not come up with a speed and an enforcement policy that you wanted? Either way, to stop your stress levels going too high, just stick to the speed limits - or accept the fact that you take a chance if you don't :thumb: |
1. Cr@p, not enough of them, not dedicated to making money like the speeding enforcement. Not there every day. And you know it.
2. Yep, know someone on the council, done my research, no other accidents. 3. Said so didn't I. Which part of "Yes" does a copper not understand? Oh, I know, the bit where I'm not giving you money...LOL Damn good job you lot believe in yourselves, because most of the rest of Joe Public don't. But hey, even the Nazis and Communists were able to rationalise their stupidity and make it sound like it was in the best interests of their populations. Keep trying, I like to see you squirm. |
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12009127)
1. Cr@p, not enough of them,
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12009127)
2. Yep, know someone on the council, done my research, no other accidents.
So, what did your 'bloke on the inside' say the camera was there for?
Originally Posted by alcazar
(Post 12009127)
3. Said so didn't I.
Which part of "Yes" does a copper not understand? |
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