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MattyB1983 21 April 2012 09:35 PM

Tell the garage that you want an extended warranty. If the build is good then they will have no problem giving you a long warranty.

But as above, I'd be doing everything to get my money back (well, the finance companies money back)

simonRF 21 April 2012 09:50 PM

ive done this in the past if its not what they advertised it as origionally ,you have every right to take it back , upto 6 months actually, i had a customer come to me with a c-max it had swirls in the paint when he viewed it , they mopped it he picked it up and bought it to me , i stripped it and started again, end result was much improved but when you pay 10 grand for a car you want 10 grands worth, i advised he take it back, we as a company used to be contracted to said garage and knew how they and all garages work , he got a full refund, speak to to dealership principle and stop paying for it as you have good reasons that are obviously proven , if you havnt parted with any money cancell the finance and walk away from the agreement ,its the law ,ring tradin standards and dont take no for an answer, if you wanted a scrap car you would have gone a scrap yard to get one .

sorry checked today you have 28 days to return the vehicle,

Stu.sti 22 April 2012 05:39 PM

Went into garage to have a chat with the owner, he says he's not going to waste any more time on my engine, if API have one on the shelf, he will get one from them and fit it in my car :) so at least something good has come out of this!

JohnD 22 April 2012 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by Stu.sti (Post 10590453)
Went into garage to have a chat with the owner, he says he's not going to waste any more time on my engine, if API have one on the shelf, he will get one from them and fit it in my car :) so at least something good has come out of this!

Until he finds how much it will cost?
Make sure he doesn't think that API are just a back street merchant like Ideal Engines!

JohnD

tubbytommy 22 April 2012 07:32 PM


Originally Posted by JohnD (Post 10590658)
Until he finds how much it will cost?
Make sure he doesn't think that API are just a back street merchant like Ideal Engines!

JohnD

or try to fit it himself and not bother with a map and chuck 95 ron in it.

Stu.sti 22 April 2012 07:47 PM

He has used API before and knows there prices. There's half a tank of tesco 99 in it so doubt he would change it for 95.

g7prs 22 April 2012 08:27 PM

Stu the engine ( block ) is only a part of it. If you don't sort what caused the original problem it will happen again!

Find out if the turbo is the right one? What about injectors and so on...... And get the mapper to the car for getting it running!

tubbytommy 22 April 2012 08:30 PM


Originally Posted by g7prs (Post 10590797)
Stu the engine ( block ) is only a part of it. If you don't sort what caused the original problem it will happen again!

Find out if the turbo is the write one? What about injectors and so on...... And get the mapper to the car for getting it running!

+1 i cant believe the guy will get an api engine either when he realises the cost.

Stu.sti 22 April 2012 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by g7prs (Post 10590797)
Stu the engine ( block ) is only a part of it. If you don't sort what caused the original problem it will happen again!

Find out if the turbo is the right one? What about injectors and so on...... And get the mapper to the car for getting it running!

I'm confused mate, if the engine gets replaced then what else can go wrong. The original problem was piston 3 was damaged. The turbo issue could be my mate reading the turbo wrong, he said he seen td04 on it but he could be wrong. He just had a quick look. Everyone told me that having a decat without a remap then taking it upto 135 using 95Ron I've prob melted a piston, which looks like what's happened. I really didnt have a clue about these cars but Charlie from mvm told me it didn't need mapped and I could run it on 95 because it's a uk model. Obv I know now that's bull!

g7prs 22 April 2012 09:00 PM

What caused the piston to melt? Once you can answer that then you know what the problem was! Just putting another engine in doesnt fix the problem. The fact that your mate read TD0 anything means the car doesn't have the original turbo on it. What else is not normal?

See what I'm getting at?

tubbytommy 22 April 2012 09:02 PM


Originally Posted by Stu.sti (Post 10590857)
I'm confused mate, if the engine gets replaced then what else can go wrong. The original problem was piston 3 was damaged. The turbo issue could be my mate reading the turbo wrong, he said he seen td04 on it but he could be wrong. He just had a quick look. Everyone told me that having a decat without a remap then taking it upto 135 using 95Ron I've prob melted a piston, which looks like what's happened. I really didnt have a clue about these cars but Charlie from mvm told me it didn't need mapped and I could run it on 95 because it's a uk model. Obv I know now that's bull!

above is the problem, you dont know about these cars and neither does the dealer, you have come on here asking or advice,which was an excellent thing to do.
but now you need to take that advice, the car will not run on anything less than 99 ron without risk of detting and piston damage.
decatting the car will require a remap, this is fact do not believe the dealer, your mum or next doors cat. IT REQUIRES A REMAP.
You need to find the fault that caused the problem or the problem will be there still and destroy this engine.

as said before the car is a nail get your money back as the dealer has no idea how to fix the car as proved by his last attempt.

Stu.sti 22 April 2012 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by g7prs (Post 10590876)
What caused the piston to melt? Once you can answer that then you know what the problem was! Just putting another engine in doesnt fix the problem. The fact that your mate read TD0 anything means the car doesn't have the original turbo on it. What else is not normal?

See what I'm getting at?

I know what you mean, but my mate could be takin the piss about the turbo, he has an evo 6 with a td05 and he prob just said it was a td04 to maKe me think his is better.

I thought the cause of the piston damage was me trying to take the car flat out with the de cat and 95ron without the map?
I know now I need to use 99 and it was booked in for a map on the 1st of may because I was meant to be getting it back on Friday. So because I am getting it mapped and using 99ron it won't damage the new engine? Or am I wrong?

tubbytommy 22 April 2012 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Stu.sti (Post 10590906)
I know what you mean, but my mate could be takin the piss about the turbo, he has an evo 6 with a td05 and he prob just said it was a td04 to maKe me think his is better.

I thought the cause of the piston damage was me trying to take the car flat out with the de cat and 95ron without the map?
I know now I need to use 99 and it was booked in for a map on the 1st of may because I was meant to be getting it back on Friday. So because I am getting it mapped and using 99ron it won't damage the new engine? Or am I wrong?

it should have a vf35 turbo anyway, you dont know what caused the piston failure, you need to find this out before getting a new engine or they will be bolting on the same parts and the problem will still be there.

last time i will say it and im sure everyone will agree

WALK AWAY AND GET A REFUND.....

nobody involved with this car has a clue what they are doing with it engine wise which will only end one way.

Stu.sti 22 April 2012 09:23 PM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 10590929)
it should have a v35 turbo anyway, you dont know what caused the piston failure, you need to find this out before getting a new engine or they will be bolting on the same parts and the problem will still be there.

last time i will say it and im sure everyone will agree

WALK AWAY AND GET A REFUND.....

nobody involved with this car has a clue what they are doing with it engine wise which will only end one way.

It may well have a vf35 I need to check.
You were the first person that said I had melted a piston because of the decat. Why do you now think something else has caused it?
I can't walk away from it.

tubbytommy 22 April 2012 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by Stu.sti (Post 10590940)
It may well have a vf35 I need to check.
You were the first person that said I had melted a piston because of the decat. Why do you now think something else has caused it?
I can't walk away from it.

i dont think something else has caused it, it just a guess, it needs someone to find the cause and rectiy it before the engine is fitted, it could well be a mapping and fuel issue, but it could also be something else.

bluenosewrx 23 April 2012 07:43 AM

MVM imports, what a shock,

got some cars there and most of them are crap, it's the Scottish version of KTC FFS.

As people have said get a refund but I don't hold out much hope for you.good luck though.

Mac

Stu.sti 28 April 2012 10:15 AM

Just a quick update, got the car back yestarday and the new engine runs sweet as a nut :) no problems at all. It's booked in for a remap on Monday nite so I am off boost until then

Stu.sti 08 May 2012 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by tubbytommy (Post 10590954)
i dont think something else has caused it, it just a guess, it needs someone to find the cause and rectiy it before the engine is fitted, it could well be a mapping and fuel issue, but it could also be something else.

FYI engine failure was more than likely due to broken O2 sensor.
Fixed now and remapped and running as it should


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