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L.J.F 07 August 2011 09:33 PM

They are failing to fit into the system. There is work available but people have got to be willing to do it, sadly some seem to think they are to good to work in Mc Donald's even though they have no education and fuuk all skills.

A small backward society.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 09:38 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174516)
if the police wanted to raid the crack houses they could of set up sting operations, but they don't want to get there hands dirty. I know where Bruce grove police station is I've been in there a long time ago, I can't justify payig for a pay and display and wait for an hour give a report and then nothing gets done.

people that come out of prison get told that there is opportunities out there for em. they come out of prison and they can't pass the checks so no wants to employ them. so what do you expect the people to do??? the whole system is obviously not working down here.



I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? :cuckoo: You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison

Mus 07 August 2011 09:43 PM


Originally Posted by fitzscoob (Post 10174527)
Are you speaking from direct experience here?

With regards to what I expect people to do in these situations, well firstly dont commit crimes that cause you to go to prison would be a good start, secondly if you do return from a stint at her majestys pleasure, dont grumble about not having a job as it was your own actions that put you in the situation in the first place. The world doesnt owe you a living.

makes perfect sense but also easy to say.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174519)
so whats your suggestion?

if th police don't have nothing to hide why haven't they released a statement yet? muppets a side why are there so many people protesting forget the ones that are rioting I can't answer for then.

Because they are not aware of the FACTS yet. The radio and weapon seized have been submitted for forensic examination. The results of those tests take time. When the facts are known, an investigative strategy will follow if necessary. Organisations tend to avoid speculation as it causes uncertainty. Thats why they deal with FACTS. Social networking sites which thrive on speculation are hardly a reliable source of information, similar to the media.
Be patient, when FACTS are established, I'm sure a statement will follow. :thumb:

Mus 07 August 2011 09:48 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174548)
I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? :cuckoo: You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison


if these kids had a youth centre to go to then maybe they would look at things differently on one of my previous post I stated I couldn't care let them riot I couldn't care less, but i guess that was more an emotional answer. the kids that breaking in to shops and stealing ect are just exploiting the situation taking advantage and isn't necessary to get the point across.

the youths have nothing to do nothing to look forward to they get in to crime.

astraboy 07 August 2011 09:50 PM

Mus if you think you're going to garner any sympathy whatsoever for the poor unfortunate DRUG DEALER who shot at the police and then had the temerity to die whilst they defended themselves then you are delusional.

As for the ****heads who are rioting cos 'one of their own' got what they deserved, I'd hazard a guess that should each one on the streets receive the same treatment, then crime in the area would rapidly decrease, as would the amount of benefit payments in the area. The local methadone clinic would lose a lot a business, mind, so it's not all good.
astraboy.

kingofturds 07 August 2011 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by L.J.F (Post 10174539)
They are failing to fit into the system. There is work available but people have got to be willing to do it, sadly some seem to think they are to good to work in Mc Donald's even though they have no education and fuuk all skills.

A small backward society.


Unfortunately with the gangs in some London areas even if you want to work you are screwed. If you take a job and have to cross a gangs "turf" to get there, then you either get robbed or worse.

Maz 07 August 2011 09:52 PM


Originally Posted by davyboy (Post 10174520)
Braap, braap, braap!

Trouble with flatulence?:Suspiciou

kingofturds 07 August 2011 09:57 PM

In enfield now looting. Where the fcuk are the police?

http://c0013899.cdn1.cloudfiles.rack...com/x2_79a71d2

davyboy 07 August 2011 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by Einstein RA (Post 10174592)
Trouble with flatulence?:Suspiciou

Nah man! That's the noise a gangstu' makes when he makes his fingers in to a gun shape a pretends to shoot.

I actually saw someone do this on the M1 the other day (near Luton) and nearly PMSL.

Fok da po leeece, straight outa Compton bitches.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174579)
if these kids had a youth centre to go to then maybe they would look at things differently on one of my previous post I stated I couldn't care let them riot I couldn't care less, but i guess that was more an emotional answer. the kids that breaking in to shops and stealing ect are just exploiting the situation taking advantage and isn't necessary to get the point across.

the youths have nothing to do nothing to look forward to they get in to crime.

I don't know how old you are, but I heard all this back in 1985. I got off my backside and found a job. No education other than what the state offered. Left an area with little or no prospects, few jobs. I didn't get into crime, all I had to look forward to was leaving an area that offered little.

There were several youth clubs in the area of the riots, looking at the news, a community leader is saying some community centres have been damaged by fire. Is that an emotional answer or kids exploiting the fact they have nothing?

Mus 07 August 2011 10:13 PM

the youth club in broad water farm is shut and has been a for a long time. I knew it would get worse and wait till the marks body been realeased for the funeral there will be even more riotes of the funeral.

astraboy 07 August 2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174620)
There were several youth clubs in the area of the riots, looking at the news, a community leader is saying some community centres have been damaged by fire. Is that an emotional answer or kids exploiting the fact they have nothing?

Neither. its because they are violent, indolent scum.

Seriously. Drop a bomb on the place, watch the crime rate plummet.
astraboy.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174631)
the youth club in broad water farm is shut and has been a for a long time. I knew it would get worse and wait till the marks body been realeased for the funeral there will be even more riotes of the funeral.

Why?

astraboy 07 August 2011 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174634)
Why?

Once again, because they are violent, indolent scum.
astraboy.

hutton_d 07 August 2011 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174579)
if these kids had a youth centre to go to then maybe they would look at things differently on one of my previous post I stated I couldn't care let them riot I couldn't care less, but i guess that was more an emotional answer. the kids that breaking in to shops and stealing ect are just exploiting the situation taking advantage and isn't necessary to get the point across.

the youths have nothing to do nothing to look forward to they get in to crime.

Why should they have a youth centre? Who's going to pay for it? These "kids" obviously have no brains or they could figure out something to do that didn't involve crime. But then as they have "role models" like you it's no wonder .... :brickwall

Dave

kingofturds 07 August 2011 10:24 PM

Some idiot on twitter posing with his stolen merchandise, lets hope the police can track him down.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/phot...TXB23F3r8zXHE=

s70rjw 07 August 2011 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by astraboy (Post 10174639)
Once again, because they are violent, indolent scum.
astraboy.

The youth club on a Thursday and table tennis club in Benllech closed down in 1984. Guess what we did....set fire to buildings? Throw missiles at police?
Go looting?


























































Nope.

Got off our arses and found another youth club nearby which we cycled to.
Back then though the world didn't owe folk a living. :thumb:

Adidas 07 August 2011 10:46 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174634)
Why?


Probably due to all the problems (including a shooting/murder at a private party) associated with the place

scud8 07 August 2011 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by foxarm (Post 10174601)
In enfield now looting. Where the fcuk are the police?

I work just round the corner from this. Hope I still have an office to go to tomorrow.

acstua 07 August 2011 10:51 PM

you have to wonder if its because much some idiot saying on twitter riots were gonna happen in Enfield actually caused it to happen..


BBC reporter Tarah Welsh, who said she was visiting family, said concrete slabs were being thrown through shop windows in the main shopping streets.

She said on Twitter: “Police car wrecked in Enfield - most rioters looked under 16, lots of young girls throwing concrete slabs through shop windows.”
sigh :/

Mus 07 August 2011 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174548)
I don't wish to come across as judgmental, so rather than ridicule, I'll ask you.
A sting operation. What exactly do you mean by a sting operation?
If you didn't report anything, as you couldn't justify paying to pay and display, how can you expect something to be done? :cuckoo: You're complaining and yet can't be bothered to pay and display in order to make a report to police to give them a chance to do something about it. Have you tried recently? You say you went there a long time ago? Times move on

As far as no one wanting to employ people when they come out of prison, what has that got to do with looting, damaging property and throwing missiles at the police? It's certainly a way of procrastinating the issue by ensuring a return to prison

the police can send a undercover police officer camera and get him to go in there and buy some crack, heroin, coke ect. would that not be enough evidence?

in regards to the stealing and damaging property well to be honest no I don't agree with it and like I previously said some of the youths are taking advantage.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174715)
the police can send a undercover police officer camera and get him to go in there and buy some crack, heroin, coke ect. would that not be enough evidence?

in regards to the stealing and damaging property well to be honest no I don't agree with it and like I previously said some of the youths are taking advantage.

You really are very naiive. You yourself say these people are proper gangsters pimping hoes and the like. This undercover police officer, what does he do, turn up with a party invitation? You really think you can walk into an organised crack house as a stranger carrying a camera? Maybe hire an outfit like this

http://www.mypartyplanner.com/common...age_406806.jpg

You really do need to get real

Mus 07 August 2011 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by hutton_d (Post 10174654)
Why should they have a youth centre? Who's going to pay for it? These "kids" obviously have no brains or they could figure out something to do that didn't involve crime. But then as they have "role models" like you it's no wonder .... :brickwall

Dave

like what is that trying to imply, just cause I live in a rough area means Im a criminal.

the point I'm trying to make is everyone can judge and make assumptions but until you live there and see it you won't know the full extent of the problem.

s70rjw 07 August 2011 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174738)
like what is that trying to imply, just cause I live in a rough area means Im a criminal.

the point I'm trying to make is everyone can judge and make assumptions but until you live there and see it you won't know the full extent of the problem.

You said the bullet in the police radio was a police bullet. Back that up with some evidence.

Mus 07 August 2011 11:10 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174736)
You really are very naiive. You yourself say these people are proper gangsters pimping hoes and the like. This undercover police officer, what does he do, turn up with a party invitation? You really think you can walk into an organised crack house as a stranger carrying a camera? Maybe hire an outfit like this

http://www.mypartyplanner.com/common...age_406806.jpg

You really do need to get real

no you need to open your mind I have been working on that road for nearly ten years and I drive passed it sometimes 6 times a day the front door is never closed. I know you don't want to believe me why not go for a drive and see for yourself.

Mus 07 August 2011 11:15 PM


Originally Posted by s70rjw (Post 10174741)
You said the bullet in the police radio was a police bullet. Back that up with some evidence.

3 eye witnesses said the guy was on his face and alive then they heard gun shots, the guardian paper says the bullet in the radio was fired from a police officers gun.

the guy has never committed a crime he had no criminal record at age 29 has four kids just caused he posed in a picture doing a gun sign makes him a gangster lol

Aaron1978 07 August 2011 11:25 PM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10173757)
some one just text me who ever listens and believes the media hasn't got a clue about the real world, they are just programmed lol

the last few days I realised the power of the media in 29 years I though it's only media no one believes them apart from the odd few. but my god I take my hat off to the media they have surprised me they are very powerful.

:wonder:


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10174753)
3 eye witnesses said the guy was on his face and alive then they heard gun shots, the guardian paper says the bullet in the radio was fired from a police officers gun.

the guy has never committed a crime he had no criminal record at age 29 has four kids just caused he posed in a picture doing a gun sign makes him a gangster lol


Mus 07 August 2011 11:45 PM

3 eye witnesses and the bit about guardian just goes to show how inaccurate the media can be one tabloid says gangster shot down after firing at the police and the guardian tells a different story, thats just an example.

Richy P1984 08 August 2011 12:06 AM


Originally Posted by Mus (Post 10173668)
the police in my area make you hate them by the way they approach you, regardless of how you are dressed some are ok but the majority Are cocks straight up. I'm not basing this on one incident I'm basing this on over 20 years in tottenham yes there are a few good ones who are trying to do a job and i dont mind them but there's a lot of twats.

I bet they stop and question a lot of twats as well.


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