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andy97 07 January 2021 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby (Post 12096589)
Er...likely cos we dont have the infrastructure in place

Its already there. Every hoise with parking has EV capacity. Its only those living in high rise, flats etc. Street charging can be installed. Rapid charging for those wanting a quick top up. Its only going to get better from a high base of installation.

If I can charge a 100kw Tesla on a. campsite there's nowt to worry about.:thumb:

IdonthaveaScooby 07 January 2021 03:51 PM

You could show some forethought and send your kids to school on the bus , somewhere In the same county

andy97 07 January 2021 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby (Post 12096594)
You could show some forethought and send your kids to school on the bus , somewhere In the same county

We are in the same county. Dont use ICE vehicles wherever possible.

ALi-B 07 January 2021 10:00 PM

Recently looked at a used Volvo D6 to use as a runabout:

Plug-in hybrid.
All wheel drive
Zero tax
£6000

and

The good ol' 5pot DIESEL for 45+mpg economy and unlimited range on the long jaunts.

None of this petrol hybrid nonsense.

ALi-B 11 January 2021 09:18 AM

Pro drive announce a electric hearse.

TBH, the concept seemed like a good idea.... BUT....

They based it on a fugly Leaf: :facepalm:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...addfbb12d.jpeg


This is officially a car I will NEVER be seen dead in (I'm going to state that in my will). :mad:

(checks calendar...nope not April 1st )

BMWhere? 11 January 2021 11:30 AM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 12096846)
Pro drive announce a electric hearse.

TBH, the concept seemed like a good idea.... BUT....

They based it on a fugly Leaf: :facepalm:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.sco...addfbb12d.jpeg


This is officially a car I will NEVER be seen dead in (I'm going to state that in my will). :mad:

(checks calendar...nope not April 1st )

In fairness to Prodrive, its a demonstration of sustainable lightweight composites rather than EV technology.

andy97 11 January 2021 11:58 AM

Adds a new level, quietly shuffle of this mortal coil

IdonthaveaScooby 11 January 2021 12:21 PM

You'd hope he would shuffled off before getting to this stage

andy97 11 January 2021 01:06 PM

Deposit down on Model Y,. son has agreed to ditch his crappy A class Merc. 😁

IdonthaveaScooby 12 January 2021 11:25 AM

Elon laughing all the way to the bank

andy97 12 January 2021 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by IdonthaveaScooby (Post 12096972)
Elon laughing all the way to the bank

He is the richest man on the Earth and Mars:lol1:

andy97 18 January 2021 08:31 AM

Rolls Royce to debut the Silent Shadow based on the BMW i7

ALi-B 18 January 2021 12:59 PM

Well...i7's grill is just about big enough to be used on a Rolls :lol1:

andy97 18 January 2021 02:11 PM

Ssems to be BMW motors and battery tech, Rolls chassis

Mr Fuji 18 January 2021 02:27 PM

I was watching something the other day about battery technology, and how much better the (and safer) the solid state stuff is, vs the Tesla 4680 battery which they are hoping to roll out this year. Was quite interesting, and it's clear that the solid state is the way to go, for various reasons, but it won't really be commercially available until 2025, which gives Tesla 4 years to tout the benefits of their new battery. I think that although Tesla are pushing what's capable of wet LiON batteries, the first gen solid state out perform it already, I imagine that in the next decade, we will see huge strides in the technology.

The Toyota one is claimed to be fully chargeable in 10 mins :eek:

Markyscoob 18 January 2021 07:24 PM

Lots of issues to overcome in solid state batteries. I wish them luck. Finally managed to find a decent chap to enjoy my much loved STi today so deposit going down on my Model 3 tomorrow.

andy97 18 January 2021 09:39 PM


Originally Posted by Markyscoob (Post 12097378)
Lots of issues to overcome in solid state batteries. I wish them luck. Finally managed to find a decent chap to enjoy my much loved STi today so deposit going down on my Model 3 tomorrow.

Which model 3 are you going for? The 2021 models have some nice improvements,

andy97 22 January 2021 02:33 PM

Ev adoption nears critical mass in 2023 overtaking ICE

andy97 09 February 2021 08:22 AM

20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle :thumb:

^Qwerty^ 09 February 2021 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12098874)
20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle :thumb:

As much as I hope that's tongue in cheek, if we crushed all our cars to replace them with leccy stuff, the environmental impact of doing that would be catastrophic as well as unworkable. I'm sure I read the other day that the national grid would have to increase capacity by 4 times what it is today to deal with that.

Anyway, lets get that new coal mine open in Cumbria, we'll need it to help produce the steel for all these new cars :)

andy97 09 February 2021 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by ^Qwerty^ (Post 12098876)
As much as I hope that's tongue in cheek, if we crushed all our cars to replace them with leccy stuff, the environmental impact of doing that would be catastrophic as well as unworkable. I'm sure I read the other day that the national grid would have to increase capacity by 4 times what it is today to deal with that.

Anyway, lets get that new coal mine open in Cumbria, we'll need it to help produce the steel for all these new cars :)

National grid has already conducted assessment of their ability to support EV expansion to 2040. They said they are more than able.

Stupid decision to open a coal mine run a local plant.

Did you read that to produce green hydrogen to run our replace our house gas boilers would require 40 times the amount of wind turbines currently in operation. Now to have 40 times the number of turbines would be excellent for everything but further development of hydrogen production is drastically needed

IdonthaveaScooby 09 February 2021 09:36 AM

How is the planet going to support another 20 % of people to be around that much longer ?

on Mars perhaps ?

BMWhere? 09 February 2021 09:53 AM

Problems for Tesla in China

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-55990821


Improvements in Hydrogen are ongoing. By the end of the decade Hydrogen will be the norm and EV's will be history!

There was an interesting development in the press this week with Hydrogen paste which can be used in small vehicles like bicycles and scooters where a hydrogen gas fuel tank is not practical.

^Qwerty^ 09 February 2021 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12098878)

Stupid decision to open a coal mine run a local plant.

Did you read that to produce green hydrogen to run our replace our house gas boilers would require 40 times the amount of wind turbines currently in operation. Now to have 40 times the number of turbines would be excellent for everything but further development of hydrogen production is drastically needed

So you think it's a better idea and greener to ship the coal required to produce the steel halfway around the planet on what is widely recognised as the dirtiest form of transport available, although I didn't quite understand your response - run a local plant?

On the hydrogen front, one of my work colleagues lives in the Orkneys - says they are doing some wonderful things with hydrogen up there.

IdonthaveaScooby 09 February 2021 10:35 AM

So it’s ok for west to do business in China but not Russia - despite human rights abuses

ALi-B 09 February 2021 10:48 AM


Originally Posted by andy97 (Post 12098874)
20% of deaths attributed to fossil fuel pollution research claims. Time to crush your polluting ICE vehicle :thumb:


Better off taxing people who use car travel to a fixed place of work, incorporating it into their tax code (simple calc; distance from work, extra percentage if partly driven in a car or taxi, bigger tax if fully driven, reduction for public transport use). Especially targeting those that live in far flung commuter belts. Employer and employee both held responsible for checking and verifying this (tracking via mobile phone geolocation, submitting ticket purchases etc). NO tax breaks for cars that use renewable or electric.

For retail; Enviro tax on goods based on distance transported (bit like Spain's enviro tax on online purchases). Promoting a shift towards local retail. Big duty on needless transporting stuff, like importing water from overseas unless done via 100% renewable (not carbon offset :nono: ).

Oh yes, reduction or a ban on tax breaks for carbon offset; Planting a tree does not make your 737 'green'.

Tax gained of course should be directly placed into public infrastructure to maintain public mobility. Nationalisation/subsiding of routes for areas that are poorly served. It should be ring fenced on a political level as so not be used to fill black holes (like the NHS) and not for vanity projects that only serve the Capital (except completion of the Lower Thames crossing to give better access with the North to/from Folkestone).

By reducing vehicle reliance via punitive taxation we should see a reduction of overall vehicle use; Covid lockdowns have shown that vehicle use for commuting can make a massive difference for both infrastructure overloading and consequently the environment (noise as well as air). As even fossil fuel vehicles become less polluting as they operate in free flowing traffic conditions, they also become more reliable and suffer less wear. It's a win on many levels.

andy97 10 February 2021 09:17 PM

It has been announced

The coal mine application is being reviewed before final decision.

BMWhere? 10 February 2021 09:26 PM

Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!

fpan 11 February 2021 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 12099025)
Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!

As if his megafactory is eco friendly ;)
Most corporations "caring" for the environment appears to be a trend to sustain business.

^Qwerty^ 11 February 2021 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by BMWhere? (Post 12099025)
Elon Musk/Tesla has invested $1.5Bn in climate unfriendly energy sapping bit-coin! Their green credentials just went down the potty!

I never actually thought of that, but I assume you're talking about the GPU's required for the processing?


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