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hodgy0_2 03 May 2011 10:00 AM

I am sure the old BBS boards were awash with people asking the same questions regarding the fact that email changed the way people communicate in business.

social networking is also changing the way people work, we have just had Salesforce.com rolled out internally and also sell it as a CRM tool, if used as intended it behaves in much the same way as Facebook. Moreover the advertising/creative industries have seen Facebook as a core business app for years

language and communication change and evolve -- you just have to accept it imo

Leslie 03 May 2011 10:15 AM

I think that textspeak is fair enough when used in its original context on the 'phone.

To use it in normal conversation is lazy and unnecessary. I think the English language is worth preserving and its use will ultimately degrade the language.

I also find the use of words such as "proven" instead of proved and "issue" instead of "problem" irritating.

Les

bigsinky 03 May 2011 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 10019761)
I also find the use of words such as "proven" instead of proved

do the scottish still not have this as a quirk of their legal system?

David Lock 03 May 2011 10:30 AM

I refuse to sent texts unless I can use a full size keyboard. My kids have mastered the knack of using phone buttons - I haven't and do not intend to try!! In the very rare event of needing to send a text I can type one out on Skype.

My old mum used a version of text speak 50 years ago - it was called shorthand :)

dl

bugeyejohn 03 May 2011 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10019555)

sial stuck in a liquid ??

RA Dunk 03 May 2011 10:40 AM


Originally Posted by bugeyejohn (Post 10019790)
sial stuck in a liquid ??

Close, very close indeed. :lol1:

bugeyejohn 03 May 2011 10:45 AM

I think i need to change stuck then :lol1:

RA Dunk 03 May 2011 10:50 AM

You ned to change stuck and liquid, but your very close indeed ;)

hutton_d 03 May 2011 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Lisawrx (Post 10019739)
Not always possible, or can cost more.

There are times when I am at work when I receive a text, which I only see when on my break (we're not allowed to carry phones during our shift). So by the time I see it, the sender isn't always available for a 'chat', hence it is more sensible just to reply via text message, then they will have an answer as soon as they see their phone.

As for characters, I will not use text speak (as said earlier) so if I run over the limit, so be it, it'll cost me 10p instead of 5p. If I was even able to phone that person, the likelihood that phone call would cost more than 10p, as once you are speaking people often have a habit of saying more than is required. It's not so bad on contracts, with free minutes, but I am on PAYG, and I have to watch my pennies.

(add to that, sometimes I just don't want to speak to someone personally:lol1:)

So, what you're saying is that you're a miserable, unsociable old s*d with no money ... :thumb: :D :D

Dave

bugeyejohn 03 May 2011 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by RA Dunk (Post 10019808)
You ned to change stuck and liquid, but your very close indeed ;)

:thumb: :notworthy

chocolate_o_brian 03 May 2011 11:00 AM

I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.

bigsinky 03 May 2011 11:11 AM


Originally Posted by bugeyejohn (Post 10019790)
sial stuck in a liquid ??


AWWWWW....... close but no cigar chum ;)

[roy walker catchphrase voice]

just say what you seen son, go ahead

[/roy walker catchphrase voice]

bigsinky 03 May 2011 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian (Post 10019821)
I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.


choccy, calm down dear, calm down ;)

stef_2010 03 May 2011 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10019833)
AWWWWW....... close but no cigar chum ;)

[roy walker catchphrase voice]

just say what you seen son, go ahead

[/roy walker catchphrase voice]

Subaru in a lake ?:lol1:

bugeyejohn 03 May 2011 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10019833)
AWWWWW....... close but no cigar chum ;)

[roy walker catchphrase voice]

just say what you seen son, go ahead

[/roy walker catchphrase voice]

I was rubbish as catchphrase but subaru in a lake :wonder: Thats why beaten again :brickwall

bigsinky 03 May 2011 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by bugeyejohn (Post 10019846)
I was rubbish as catchphrase but subaru in a lake :wonder: Thats why beaten again :brickwall

yea!!!!! well done. that picture was posted so many times it became synonymous with the dreaded REPOST action. any reposted subjects in any forum were immediately subjected to SIAL. funny at the time but now anachronistic

CREWJ 03 May 2011 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Steve001 (Post 10019678)
The British Rally Forum uses one and you get some funny results from terms like 'WD40' a popular releasing product 'M10' for nut/bolt thread size etc. etc. but it does works well :)

I agree that txt spk is a pain in the backside :(

I am not sure how the auto correction software works but I would think that 'popular' Acronyms like LOL, IMHO and the above could be accommodated.

stv (oops sorry Steve) ;)

Oh yes, there is a spell checker :)

:thumb:

Leslie 03 May 2011 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10019763)
do the scottish still not have this as a quirk of their legal system?

Yes Big S you are right. "Proven" is an ancient Scottish legal term.

Les

Miniman 03 May 2011 01:53 PM

My wife tries to use text speak with me, and I refuse to understand. She also has "conversations" on text a lot with her mates, again I don't take part in that if she tries it on.

It annoys her a lot when I simply ignore them, so now she writes proper consise texts or calls me.

I remember a lot of the shortening (things like LOL, and IMHO) came from old vareities of social media - forums, emails, and particlarly gaming where it was easier to laugh and particularly abuse someone when when playing old school games like Quake or Unreal and you only had seconds before another rocket was flying at you again. This was long before text/SMS was popular in the early 90's. And I don't mind using these because basically they are acronyms. But only sparingly and not as part of a "conversation". Just dropping letters because it's easier or quicker to send a message is lazy and just reminds me of doublespeak in 1984.

While I'm not great english scolar, I really do think a proper sentance should be constructed as such.

bigsinky 03 May 2011 02:21 PM


Originally Posted by Miniman (Post 10020081)
While I'm not great english scolar, I really do think a proper sentance should be constructed as such.

you're telling me!!! ;)

Leslie 03 May 2011 02:38 PM

:)

Les

ilogikal1 03 May 2011 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian (Post 10019821)
I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.

He's still trying to decipher what those words with vowels are. :rolleyes:

Incidentally, I happen to think that "txt spk" is the language of cretins. Anyone who uses it in anything other than a character space limited environment is nothing more than a lazy pleb.

f1_fan 03 May 2011 06:20 PM

This thread is about text speak, but let's not forget about capital letters and punctuation.

As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there :thumb:

Anger 03 May 2011 06:22 PM

The problem is even at school, kids can hand in home work in text talk... this is a massive problem and will only make things worse

Not sure if this is only a london ting ;)

ilogikal1 03 May 2011 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by Anger (Post 10020521)
The problem is even at school, kids can hand in home work in text talk... this is a massive problem and will only make things worse

Not sure if this is only a london ting ;)

I don't think it's just a "london ting" ;), I believe it's now generally accepted across the board; I heard, although I can't remember the source and therefore the validity of this comment, that they are no longer able to mark down use of text speak in exams. Although this may be (and I sincerely hope that it is!) completely b*ll*cks :lol1:

Anger 03 May 2011 06:40 PM

I heard it on the news and a friends a teacher in Croydon, i looked at some of the work she had from pupils at home and couldn't work out which way up to read it

bioforger 03 May 2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by bigsinky (Post 10019576)
stick it into google then and see what comes up :rolleyes:

:wall: considerably less results than "shot on site" ! :rolleyes: :cuckoo:

DCI Gene Hunt 03 May 2011 06:45 PM

Fecking window licking text spk neds...... :D

bioforger 03 May 2011 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10020514)
This thread is about text speak, but let's not forget about capital letters and punctuation.

As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there :thumb:

The comma after uncle isn't really necessary ;)

Lee247 03 May 2011 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by Leslie (Post 10020131)
:)

Les

Swiss will be furious. Les getting a corner :lol1:


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