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Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:04 PM

All that and it's still a wrx what a shame

TonyBurns 23 April 2011 10:04 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002710)
yes you been there too mate.

break a 5 speed get one for pennies lots taking 400bhp now.

break a 6 speed and min 1k bill

Amazingly 5 speeds never use to be able to take 400bhp, actually they still cant take 400bhp (well its the torque that kills em :lol1: ) so your just buying box after box after box then fitting a ppg kit and finding 5th gear goes (thats another box but you have spent 4k on the ppg build and 3 5 speeds), run a 6 speed and there is a much greater chance it wont break ;)

Tony:)

chopperman 23 April 2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002710)
yes you been there too mate.

break a 5 speed get one for pennies lots taking 400bhp now.

break a 6 speed and min 1k bill

But 6 speeds dont break so the bill is £00.00

Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:05 PM


Originally Posted by Wmscooby (Post 10002727)
What do you drive then?

V4 type r and a civic type r mate.

Wmscooby 23 April 2011 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002743)
V4 type r and a civic type r mate.

:thumb::thumb:

jayallen 23 April 2011 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10002738)
Amazingly 5 speeds never use to be able to take 400bhp, actually they still cant take 400bhp

Tony:)

Debatable.....Omar's old 2.1 stroker Type R is still running with its stock version 6 Type R box, its seen a lot of tracktime over the last 2 years and done the last two track days at 412bhp(meth map) that box hasnt missed a beat....;)

99greenwagon 23 April 2011 10:09 PM

ive owned a uk classic and now a jdm sti type r,there is no comparison which is the better car.
the sti feels much better in every way,my uk classic was running 315/320,my sti type r is standard and it feels as quick if not quicker,the sti is a much more exciting drive.
i wouldnt ever buy another uk car......although it is still a great car and pretty quick,and was also reliable,i soon got bored.
its individual opinions,i just think the gearing etc is much better.

Tomwrx 23 April 2011 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002743)
V4 type r and a civic type r mate.

what power u running on the V4 type r

maydew 23 April 2011 10:11 PM


Originally Posted by chopperman (Post 10002741)
But 6 speeds dont break so the bill is £00.00

:lol1:

search 6 speed crunch between 4-5 .

my syncos went at 30k 1k bill very common to go.

Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:14 PM


Originally Posted by Tomwrx (Post 10002757)
what power u running on the V4 type r

340bhp mate. Civic is for sale it's on autotrader it's a minter!!

TonyBurns 23 April 2011 10:15 PM


Originally Posted by jayallen (Post 10002754)
Debatable.....Omar's old 2.1 stroker Type R is still running with its stock version 6 Type R box, its seen a lot of tracktime over the last 2 years and done the last two track days at 412bhp(meth map) that box hasnt missed a beat....;)

There was a guy posted on here about 2 months back with his MY99 uk car, running 215bhp (totally standard car), 3rd gear totally stripped, (not abused too much either :lol1: ) so it shows you, not a strong box at all if it cant take 215bhp and 214lbs of torque :eek:

Tony:D

TonyBurns 23 April 2011 10:17 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002759)
:lol1:

search 6 speed crunch between 4-5 .

my syncos went at 30k 1k bill very common to go.

Never seen the syncros go on one but it doesnt mean they wont, so 1 6 speed box we know of to 1000 5 speed boxes? thats not a bad ratio :lol1::D

Tony:D

Tomwrx 23 April 2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002767)
340bhp mate. Civic is for sale it's on autotrader it's a minter!!

so fast enough but my peasent wrx would give u dam good run for your money , now my 07 wrx sl is running 355bhp :thumb:

maydew 23 April 2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10002738)
Amazingly 5 speeds never use to be able to take 400bhp, actually they still cant take 400bhp (well its the torque that kills em :lol1: ) so your just buying box after box after box then fitting a ppg kit and finding 5th gear goes (thats another box but you have spent 4k on the ppg build and 3 5 speeds), run a 6 speed and there is a much greater chance it wont break ;)

Tony:)

yes the 6 speed do handle 400 plus very well.

newage wrx will and can take 400


as with both they can break at standard power.

friend of mine been running 5 speed andy 20g for bout 60k no issues car at 100k now.

api told him when first done the mods there taking upto 400 well and just wait till it breaks 60k later still going strong never had gear oil changed either used and abused

chopperman 23 April 2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002759)
:lol1:

search 6 speed crunch between 4-5 .

my syncos went at 30k 1k bill very common to go.

What, on a standard or lightly modded car? Thats what where debating here.

99greenwagon 23 April 2011 10:21 PM

a 340 bhp type r would be a very quick motor indeed! a newage car will need alot more bhp to match the classic type r.

TonyBurns 23 April 2011 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002774)
yes the 6 speed do handle 400 plus very well.

newage wrx will and can take 400


as with both they can break at standard power.

friend of mine been running 5 speed andy 20g for bout 60k no issues car at 100k now.

api told him when first done the mods there taking upto 400 well and just wait till it breaks 60k later still going strong never had gear oil changed either used and abused

You know there is a slight difference between the 2.5 wrx gearbox and the 2ltrs?
Its not that they can take more power (they will still just let go, and I would get your mate to change the gear oil, you change it for a reason, mainly because it breaks down and stops lubricating very well and it takes any bits of metal out of the box to stop excessive wear).

Tony:)

jayallen 23 April 2011 10:22 PM

I was speaking to Mike Latimar on Sunday, he uses Forester 6 speed ratios in his monster due to the longer gearing.....

As for the WRX Vs sti debate, i decided to sell my UK bug a few years ago after having a drive in a mates Blob STI.....in standard form there is no competition..

maydew 23 April 2011 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10002771)
Never seen the syncros go on one but it doesnt mean they wont, so 1 6 speed box we know of to 1000 5 speed boxes? thats not a bad ratio :lol1::D

Tony:D

for how long you been on here/posts thought even you would be aware of this plenty posts.

i not saying that 6 speeds are s..t just they do have there faults and as you up the power you spend more time up and down the box.

5 speed just hold the gear out,why do top fuel dragsters use 3 speed etc why your changing gear your going nowhere

Darc174 23 April 2011 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002759)
:lol1:

search 6 speed crunch between 4-5 .

my syncos went at 30k 1k bill very common to go.

:wonder:

my 6 speed is Lush in my classic :norty:

jayallen 23 April 2011 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002785)
as you up the power you spend more time up and down the box.

+1 :thumb:

Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by 99greenwagon (Post 10002779)
a 340 bhp type r would be a very quick motor indeed! a newage car will need alot more bhp to match the classic type r.

:thumb::thumb:


355 peasent wrx against a 340 type r no dramas

TonyBurns 23 April 2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002785)
for how long you been on here/posts thought even you would be aware of this plenty posts.

i not saying that 6 speeds are s..t just they do have there faults and as you up the power you spend more time up and down the box.

5 speed just hold the gear out,why do top fuel dragsters use 3 speed etc why your changing gear your going nowhere

F1 cars use 7 gears, doesnt make much difference, the 6 speed is a much nicer box, you can miss gears out on it and not worry, do that with a 5 speed and pray it takes the strain ;)
Oh and the quickest production subaru to date runs a 6 speed box, has the quickest 0-60 and 0-100 times, is heavier than a classic too! (and im not talking the cosworth, its not a production car) work that one out ;)

Tony:D

maydew 23 April 2011 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by TonyBurns (Post 10002781)
You know there is a slight difference between the 2.5 wrx gearbox and the 2ltrs?
Its not that they can take more power (they will still just let go, and I would get your mate to change the gear oil, you change it for a reason, mainly because it breaks down and stops lubricating very well and it takes any bits of metal out of the box to stop excessive wear).

Tony:)

yes fully aware as stated forrester 5/6 seems preferred choice.
early 6 speeds ratio between 4/5/6 is horrible ,more you up the power more you notice.

example long bend
wrx 5 speed hold 3rd
6 speed you will make 2 gear changes on the way round

99greenwagon 23 April 2011 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002798)
:thumb::thumb:


355 peasent wrx against a 340 type r no dramas

yes mate,the type r running 340 would be much quicker unless the newage had around 380 bhp.:thumb:

maydew 23 April 2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002798)
:thumb::thumb:


355 peasent wrx against a 340 type r no dramas

classic vs newage due to weight will always struggle against a classic

Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by maydew (Post 10002804)
yes fully aware as stated forrester 5/6 seems preferred choice.
early 6 speeds ratio between 4/5/6 is horrible ,more you up the power more you notice.

example long bend
wrx 5 speed hold 3rd
6 speed you will make 2 gear changes on the way round

Why would you change gear round a bend have you got a licence?

maydew 23 April 2011 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002813)
Why would you change gear round a bend have you got a licence?

maybe something to do with buzzing off the limiter, suppose you drive like miss daisy like most on here.

yes thanks hgv class 1 .

Paul Hutch 23 April 2011 10:37 PM

Only person who drives like miss daisy is u in your poor man's sti

s70rjw 23 April 2011 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by Paul Hutch (Post 10002736)
All that and it's still a wrx what a shame

Did you really buy a car just because of its badge?
How is your 400bhp Litchfield Spec C?


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