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musso2010 19 January 2011 10:08 PM


Originally Posted by b13bat (Post 9831585)
Yeah, that looks like it has to be worth a punt Matt. And as you is handy with the old welder:thumb:.


Get a load of P600 after your front mount already, fekkin vulture.:hjtwofing I take it it's all his fault anyway for taking you out in his the other night. :lol1:

Haha, I have a lot to thank him for to be honest. Because if he hadnt have taken me out in his car, i would probably have thought mine was ok... I wouldnt fancy the pulley coming off while i was driving it.

Hes getting scared now cause he knows when mine is timed up properly ill give him a run for his money... thats why he wants my FMIC haha. Im only joking Mark :thumb:

Rob84 - Pics of the classic tool would be great, measurements even better :thumb: Im sure it wouldnt be too hard to make something up.

musso2010 19 January 2011 10:10 PM


Originally Posted by rob84 (Post 9831510)
Thats anything from bugeye up to hawkeye including legacy too.

No tool for the hatch duel vvt yet which is a right PITA lol

I'll take another shot of the classic tool as these ones are just a blurry mess lol.

I'll see if Our parts guy will give me a price on the tools.

That would be cool, im sure a few of the guys on here would be interested in buying one, myself (and probably Steve) included. :thumb:

P600wrx 19 January 2011 10:21 PM

lol i am a vulture hahaha i gave him a brand new maf and my BCS for freeeeeeeeeeee lol, i'll help anyone me i am that kinda guy the wife moans cus she gets nothing lol, going up tomorrow to steal his springs his downpipe and the fmic when he puts the kettle on, as for a good run for my money lol we know your's has a print out @280bhp m8 i bet ur's will be quicker cus i am fatter than you lol,

mark

technical_subaru 19 January 2011 10:29 PM

if the bottom pulley is cutting into the cover have yo checked for crank end float to much movement play in the thrust bearings????? engine build....../ refresh

musso2010 19 January 2011 10:31 PM


Originally Posted by P600wrx (Post 9831780)
lol i am a vulture hahaha i gave him a brand new maf and my BCS for freeeeeeeeeeee lol, i'll help anyone me i am that kinda guy the wife moans cus she gets nothing lol, going up tomorrow to steal his springs his downpipe and the fmic when he puts the kettle on, as for a good run for my money lol we know your's has a print out @280bhp m8 i bet ur's will be quicker cus i am fatter than you lol,

mark

Haha dont worry mate, we cant all be as slim and athletic as me lmao and anyway the syncro on my 2nd gear is iffy, so youll have a good head start lol.

As for the BCS, it was sitting in your bay lonely and unloved... we cant all be flash gits with an Apexi AVCR you know haha :thumb: But yeah i do owe you a drink of my finest tea at least :thumb::thumb:

westallc 19 January 2011 10:54 PM

i have a 1996 sti and the pulley on mine looks like its wobbling very slightly tried to tighten it but it was tight so im guessing i should take it off and check this key way

p.s its not near the cover or anything just looks like its unbalanced if that makes sense


should i be concerned or am i being paranoid??? as it looks fine when its not idling

P600wrx 19 January 2011 11:19 PM

subaru = paranoia when reading threads

my pleasure to help out old son, tea with 1 sugar mate,

westallc 19 January 2011 11:24 PM

thats true lol

going to take it off tomoz and have a look at the woodruff key to be sure

Northern Nick 19 January 2011 11:49 PM


Originally Posted by ALi-B (Post 9828231)
FYi: Gates is the factory branded belt. That's the only belt I'll ever use on a Subaru.

Gates = Genuine.

Of course you can pay extra for the exact same belt in a Subaru branded box. :)

Gates make belts for 95% of manufacturers :thumb:

I never time up using the pulley to pulley marks, I use them for referrence only. Best way is with a new belt (£35ish from GGR) and use the white marks to assist fitting. If you can, find a peice of aluminium plate that slots into the groove of the belt covers and align with marks on pulleys using the plate as an extension of the cover groove as with the engine in the car, the exhaust cams are a right tw#8t to do. Refer to pulley to pulley marks to tripple check after white marks, pulley to cover (All the white marks never line up perfect but there is definately a closer match one way than the other).

Start at the crank shaft and work anti-clockwise with the tension pulley removed.

I even made a hair clip type thing out of a bucket handle that slotted over the timing belt and into the crankshaft pulley to stop the belt jumping off while findling about.

The driver side cams are off cam at TDC but the passenger side cams are both on cam and tend to move right at the critical point but I find using the method above makes it relatively easy.

Hope that helps :thumb:

Northern Nick 19 January 2011 11:52 PM


Originally Posted by westallc (Post 9831899)
i have a 1996 sti and the pulley on mine looks like its wobbling very slightly tried to tighten it but it was tight so im guessing i should take it off and check this key way

p.s its not near the cover or anything just looks like its unbalanced if that makes sense


should i be concerned or am i being paranoid??? as it looks fine when its not idling

Mine wobbles, my mates wobbles too.

The pulleys on the crankshaft tend to look like they wobbles as well :thumb:

westallc 19 January 2011 11:55 PM

okay

going to take it off as a precation to make sure its not the start of a big problem

going to treat it to a light weight crank pulley

P600wrx 20 January 2011 07:40 AM

i take mine to daz @ central cuz i am an auto-sparky

musso2010 20 January 2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by westallc (Post 9831997)
okay

going to take it off as a precation to make sure its not the start of a big problem

going to treat it to a light weight crank pulley

There was no serious wobble that i could see on mine. Just be aware, if you do take it off now and you find that the keyway and crank/alt pulley are knackared you will not be able to use the car untill its sorted out. But i would check before it gets any worse. Id take pics but my camera is crap.

You can see on this pic, just how bad it has damaged the alt/crank pulley.

musso2010 20 January 2011 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by P600wrx (Post 9831938)
subaru = paranoia when reading threads

my pleasure to help out old son, tea with 1 sugar mate,

Ill text you when i am in buddy, misses has a whole list of rubbish she wants me to do today :mad:

P600wrx 20 January 2011 08:39 AM

Thats ok m8 i got to wait for post my walbroo is coming today as is my bonnet raisers

musso2010 20 January 2011 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by P600wrx (Post 9832171)
Thats ok m8 i got to wait for post my walbroo is coming today as is my bonnet raisers

Ohh nice, i thought about bonnet raisers myself. I had them on my old car though and people kept trying to close the bonnet lol.

Walbro is a piece of piss to fit, hardest bit is putting the clip on the filter bag lol took me ages.

musso2010 20 January 2011 01:05 PM

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Quick update while i have the chance.

Ive removed cam pulley, and the old key. See pic below of the damage.

Damage to the crank isnt as bad as i was expecting, im sure a few spot welds will sort it. Im picking up a new crank/alt pulley and cam pulley of mattybr5 tommorrow, and i am also going to replace the front crank seal while i can get to it.

Shocked to find that 2 of the oil pump bolts were loose, i could actually undo them with my fingers, So i am glad i found all this when i did or it could have been a lot worse.

rob84 20 January 2011 09:03 PM

As Promised, Pictures of the cam locking tools for the classic engines. but sadly not available to buy through the parts network, we get sent these tools on update of products only

http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/IMG_0536.jpg
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/IMG_0534.jpg
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/IMG_0532.jpg
http://i912.photobucket.com/albums/a...f/IMG_0530.jpg

Glowplug 21 January 2011 11:18 AM

Cheers Rob, they look to big for the Classic pulleys. Do you have some sort of adapter that sits on the pulley bolts and then the tool locks on to them.:wonder:

Didn't think they would be generally available.:lol1:

rob84 21 January 2011 06:12 PM

Those pictures are fairly large to be fair, so they look like they dont fit but they do lol :D:D
They just slot into the inside of the cam pulleys, not bolts needed to secure them on.:thumb::thumb:

MOTORS S GT 21 January 2011 06:59 PM

Those locking tools have the prefix SP on the part numbers, there's a good chance there made by Sykes Pickavent in this country as they make most locking tools for any manufacturer, might be worth contacting them direct.

jameswrx 22 January 2011 09:54 AM

http://www.shacktools.com/engine-tim...1305_1439.html

Shame the bottom one isnt quite right. I guess you could always use the one 2nd from bottom and lock it somehow.

musso2010 22 January 2011 09:59 AM

My pulleys are currently locked with cable ties and a G-Clamp. Seems to be holding so far.


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