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ScottyPPP 27 November 2014 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by boosted (Post 11570055)
My thinking with re using te gaskets I'm currently running was that if it's ok to re use a decomp plate, split a new MLS head gasket and put the plates either side with some hylomar then re using basically sound looking gaskets with a bit of hylomar would be fine, and they have been with 7000 miles 1.5 bar and 300+hp. No coolant use or pressurising coolants system at all.
I think the new MLS gaskets I have bought will be fine for what I'm doing, providing the block and heads are flat and clean and that I don't cook the engine (this aneals the bolts and you loose all clamping effort)
Still brain storming head stud ideas

Yeah, I spent a good 4 hours cleaning my heads up with razor blades, Acetone, brake cleaner etc etc. They were as flat as you can get when they came off of my 74k original short block too.

Will be interested to see what you come up with head stud wise, I'm on OEM head bolts, but i'm not planning to run 500+ brake so didn't really need them.

boosted 28 November 2014 06:18 AM

I too may just run the original head bolts. Peak torque and boost will not be much higher than I'm running just now.

boosted 30 November 2014 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by piehole1983 (Post 11570312)
I just noticed it says C*NT on your turbo box lol

Cheers for the pics I will measure and compare mine today.
Aye the parcels have to go through a fair process at work to get to me!

boosted 30 November 2014 08:52 AM

So the std 16g is a 33mm penny with a 25mm WG port. I will go check mine now

boosted 30 November 2014 09:10 AM

Appears to be about 20mm! No probs, I will remove it and get busy porting.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psft9niflj.jpg

ScottyPPP 30 November 2014 09:19 AM

Good work, I would also check the actuator and see what pressure it opens at as I've heard they can be as low as 0.25 bar.

boosted 30 November 2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by ScottyPPP (Post 11571703)
Good work, I would also check the actuator and see what pressure it opens at as I've heard they can be as low as 0.25 bar.

I think it's about a bar, no way is it as low as that, can't pull it by hand very easily!
Just popped the ex housing off, the machining and casting quality is actually quite good, the problem with the WG port is that it's a cast hole, not finish machined at all, still it's not going to take long to bore it out and finish it off. Not in the middle either, but I'll work round that.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psm2y1njmj.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...pslp0kfaad.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psgxxvkmyn.jpg

ScottyPPP 30 November 2014 11:58 AM

That is a fair way off centre :lol:

boosted 30 November 2014 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyPPP (Post 11571772)
That is a fair way off centre :lol:

Yes and no, it's in the middle of the spot face, the wastegate flap is off, but probably in the right place if you get me

Rick2014 30 November 2014 08:06 PM

Im enjoying reading this thread :) .How much was the new turbo again,the quality does look good

boosted 30 November 2014 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Rick2014 (Post 11572068)
Im enjoying reading this thread :) .How much was the new turbo again,the quality does look good

£166 delivered with one years' warranty.

boosted 01 December 2014 05:15 PM

Ok, so I'm not worrying about te turbo too much just now as the ter shafts cant take the power I have just now!
Snapped one of my machined shafts on the weekend.
Hmmm.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...pso2sip4xj.jpg
Time to manufacture some billet shafts from steel

boosted 01 December 2014 05:32 PM

Start with some 1 1/2" 4140 billets
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...pskfzvtrt1.jpg
Turn one side
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psfjjojj3c.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psxmdv5elv.jpg
Then the other
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps170kmcyr.jpg
There you go, just need to pop some grooves in them, then spline both ends.
Unsure as yet of any heat treatment required? Perhaps someone in here knows?

piehole1983 01 December 2014 06:15 PM

Awesome work! Wouldn't heat treatment make the metal harder and more brittle?

I've seen people heating steel and dunking it in used engine oil to add carbon to the steel and making it stronger.

piehole1983 01 December 2014 06:18 PM

Interesting thread:

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=90541

boosted 01 December 2014 06:46 PM


Originally Posted by piehole1983 (Post 11572654)
Awesome work! Wouldn't heat treatment make the metal harder and more brittle?

I've seen people heating steel and dunking it in used engine oil to add carbon to the steel and making it stronger.

I would send it away to be properly heat treated, whatever the process would be, case hardened?
Although 4140 is already tempered (strength) and through hardened to 18-22 rc.
I'm no metallurgist so don't really know what's required. All I do know is oem shafts are made of cheaper steel and only case hardened, Hence my failure here

piehole1983 01 December 2014 07:10 PM

Perhaps you'd be ok they way they are then. It seems you have easy access to the materials and you're doing all the work yourself, if that was me I'd make them up and try them as is. No point in the added expenditure if they'll do the job as they are.

boosted 01 December 2014 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by piehole1983 (Post 11572700)
Perhaps you'd be ok they way they are then. It seems you have easy access to the materials and you're doing all the work yourself, if that was me I'd make them up and try them as is. No point in the added expenditure if they'll do the job as they are.

My thoughts exactly sandy

MOTORS S GT 01 December 2014 07:21 PM

Have you thought of having the finished item micro peened in the spline area, & cryo tempering, use to work on McLaren gearbox output shafts a few years ago.

boosted 01 December 2014 07:23 PM

Hardness is really for wear, on the splines if there's movement for example.
I'm not interested in that, strength is what I'm after! Keeping some flexibility may help the shaft survive too

boosted 01 December 2014 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT (Post 11572713)
Have you thought of having the finished item micro peened in the spline area, & cryo tempering, use to work on McLaren gearbox output shafts a few years ago.

Thought about shot peening as that is readily available to me. Cyro tempering sounds dear!

piehole1983 01 December 2014 07:33 PM


Originally Posted by boosted (Post 11572712)
My thoughts exactly sandy

Get 'er done!

MOTORS S GT 01 December 2014 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by boosted (Post 11572719)
Thought about shot peening as that is readily available to me. Cyro tempering sounds dear!



Cryo is not that expensive, I have cranks done for the EG33 builds, blocks & rods, have a look http://www.frozensolid.co.uk/index.p...k45au1q15elf47
I reckon 4 shafts about £120.00

boosted 01 December 2014 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT (Post 11572732)
Cryo is not that expensive, I have cranks done for the EG33 builds, blocks & rods, have a look http://www.frozensolid.co.uk/index.p...k45au1q15elf47
I reckon 4 shafts about £120.00

Cool, my only concern is that I can get shafts made for £180 each. That's the route I will go before spending more money, otherwise I could be treating shafts just to break them, then having to buy shafts anyway.

ScottyPPP 02 December 2014 12:38 PM

Cracking work as usual!

boosted 02 December 2014 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by ScottyPPP (Post 11573169)
Cracking work as usual!

Cheers man.
Started to the splining, will have both shafts finished tommorow.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psihxnb62c.jpg

boosted 03 December 2014 08:12 AM

Shafts are finished. Just need to paint them and build them up now.
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5k0vn5ut.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psho6nmrgy.jpg
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psmrvdgezs.jpg

piehole1983 03 December 2014 08:28 AM

Very nice :)

Rick2014 04 December 2014 06:50 PM

quality work :)

boosted 04 December 2014 07:46 PM

Cheers guys, I hope the work as good as they look!
Built them up and fitted them tonight. I'll leave it a few days before I try any launches!
http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...psrtkt0q0k.jpg


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