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Carnut 28 August 2014 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11501122)
not if is an open diff - try it, jack the front wheel(or rear) up and try and turn the wheel

if you can (which on most Scooby's you will) - then you have an open diff - all torque is going to that wheel - whether by your own efforts or the engines
)

I thought that it works the opposite way, if a wheel loses grip (or in the air) then the power goes to the other wheels.

I await to be corrected. :)

hodgy0_2 28 August 2014 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by chris j t (Post 11501131)
I thought that it works the opposite way, if a wheel loses grip (or in the air) then the power goes to the other wheels.

I await to be corrected. :)

it only works like that if there is some form of "limited slip" between the spinning wheel and the wheels with "grip" - irrespective of whether you have 2/4/6/8 wheel drive

as I said in an earlier post, in reality the issue is with the amount of "slip" allowed in the drivetrain

open diffs allow 100% slip - that is why you will be able to turn the wheel that is in the air - all power/torque will go to the spinning wheel

LuckyWelshchap 28 August 2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by G27 (Post 11501085)
I asked my MoT man about this yesterday, prior to seeing this thread, and for 4WD he uses the decelerometer.

They only test 2WD cars on the rollers, and one time a Golf 4Motion was tested on there it damaged the grip coating on the rollers, not the car.

There's a first.
Hope the garage didn't try to make a claim off the owner :lol1:

Carnut 28 August 2014 01:12 PM


Originally Posted by hodgy0_2 (Post 11501161)
it only works like that if there is some form of "limited slip" between the spinning wheel and the wheels with "grip" - irrespective of whether you have 2/4/6/8 wheel drive

as I said in an earlier post, in reality the issue is with the amount of "slip" allowed in the drivetrain

open diffs allow 100% slip - that is why you will be able to turn the wheel that is in the air - all power/torque will go to the spinning wheel

Ok, understood now. :thumb:

terzoscooby 28 August 2014 05:57 PM

This is where it gets really confusing. Which Imprezas have fully open diffs?

LuckyWelshchap 29 August 2014 12:25 AM


Originally Posted by terzoscooby (Post 11501407)
This is where it gets really confusing. Which Imprezas have fully open diffs?

Exactly the central point !

Hodgy0_2 has said how to find out what sort of diff a car has.
Anyone can carry out that test.

But would you really want to?
  • If it is locked you'd HAVE to find a garage that knows and uses a decelerometer;
  • If it isn't you've still spent time and effort testing it.
The guaranteed way to save that effort is just to go to a garage that knows and uses a decelerometer.

One call to an MoT station:

"Hello, MoT's R Us"
"Hi, I've got a Subaru. Do you use a decelerometer to test cars?"
  • "Yes we do (if it's 4 or AWD)"
    "Fine - can I book mine in please"
  • "Pardon?"
    "Sorry - wrong number".

G27 29 August 2014 09:15 AM

Why not simply insist on decelerometer for all Impreza?

hodgy0_2 29 August 2014 12:15 PM

funnily enough I have spoken to two MOT testers (one who's opinion I value extremely highly)

and they both said they would not put on rollers, not so much for the technical reasons - but simply as people have said for commercial and risk mitigation reasons

VOSA clearly states MOT tester are liable

iain710 07 September 2014 08:45 PM

Ahhh,but what if the test station had a plate brake tester as opposed to a tap meter......


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