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cuprajake 26 July 2014 12:50 PM

not really though is it, i tried to move on it, you wouldnt budge.. i could say the sameto you, im sorry you feel me not wanting to drop £1000 off the price of a car is unacceptable

cheers for the interest though.......pm if you come to your senses ;)

donny andi 26 July 2014 01:00 PM

Yep you did drop to 10300 , tbh your car is worth what it is but as a toy I'm not going over 10k.
There's plenty on here that will side you saying it's worth 12 but finding people with it ready to go are getting few and far between now.
It's your car buddy you sell to whoever :thumb:

cuprajake 26 July 2014 02:56 PM

I'm sure the right buyer will be along soon enough. I don't HAVE to sell it I WANT to sell it. Big difference.

If the golf goes then cest la vie

Had its sat morning valet

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y19...ps2wwrq3xe.jpg

You'll struggle to find a better one anywhere in the UK.

wrx9181 26 July 2014 07:40 PM

So tempting

cuprajake 27 July 2014 05:36 PM

Deposit taken.

joz8968 27 July 2014 05:45 PM

Is that the deposit you were waiting to come through electronically, in the end?

Or is it from someone (lucky sod) completely different?

cuprajake 27 July 2014 06:13 PM

Original deposit. :)

bustaMOVEs 27 July 2014 07:00 PM

So what did it go for? So we can see the mark up when it goes up again. ;)

joz8968 27 July 2014 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11477309)
So what did it go for? So we can see the mark up when it goes up again. ;)

This.

I want to witness that, too. ;)

BIG FUD 29 July 2014 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by joz8968 (Post 11477313)
This.

I want to witness that, too. ;)

Finance with warranty I would say £12.995.

cuprajake 29 July 2014 12:30 PM

bit of an update,

as i had the car for sale, ive had loads of messer and offers in the nether regions,

ive now taken a deposit which ive passed on to the seller of my hopefully new car

which is this

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...ps237749da.jpg

vw golf edition 30 - 2.0tfsi
fully loaded
50k
full vw service history to boot
owned by a detailer mate of mine so its spotless

hoping to pick up by weekend

on another note the scoob passed its mot with flying colours.

jake

ditchmyster 29 July 2014 12:39 PM

Sorry jake but I think you've gone from a very exclusive club to run of the mill. :sleep:

I predict some regret in your near future.;)

I'm just sad I couldn't buy it. :cry:

I hope you enjoy the new car.:thumb:

ditchmyster 29 July 2014 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by BIG FUD (Post 11478416)
Finance with warranty I would say £12.995.

It'll be closer to £15k if their previous mark ups are anything to go by. :lol1:

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 03:49 PM

What the difference in the edition 30 compared to a normal gti?
Apart from the bbs and rear badge.

LUCKO 29 July 2014 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs (Post 11478666)
What the difference in the edition 30 compared to a normal gti?
Apart from the bbs and rear badge.

240bhp engine instead of 200

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 03:54 PM


Originally Posted by LUCKO (Post 11478668)
240bhp engine instead of 200

Same turbo? Or different? Is it a ko3

cuprajake 29 July 2014 04:29 PM

Its a k04 turbo, its the s3 engine so different to a normal gti engine

the engine stage one will do 300-310bhp, stage two about 340 and stage 3 about 360

so there a very tunable car,

tbh the cupra i had has the s3 brakes and s3 ali wishbones that the golf doesnt, the golf is a nice car inside so its trade offs more than anything

i knew if i got another leon it would have to be the same spec as the last, which is very hard to find, plus ive always liked the ed30

jake

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 04:35 PM

Ah yes the s3 does 300+ on stage 1.
Are you sure it's a different engine? As I thought they are same engine just different turbo kit on them.
Does the normal gti have a k03 then? And a tfsi engine?

cuprajake 29 July 2014 04:49 PM

yeah different engine codes the cupra/s3/ed30 have stronger rods,pistons, injectors, fuel pump,ko4 etc

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 05:13 PM

Cheers.
The audi dynamik uses the same engine and turbo aswell then as that's 310hp on stage 1.
But all the other inferior audis get 265hp on the tfsi engine on stage 1 (211hp stock), but when I read into the power, all the other audis need to get the 300/310 hp is a ko4 kit that can be bought from a tuner hence I thought it was the same engine/block as the tfsi internals can take good bhp (me thinking all tfsi engines are same with different turbo kits as long as it's a 2.0)
Engine code dosent tell you it's a stronger block just different set up in different marques I belive.
Where did you confirm that the 2.0 tfsi engines are different, I.e 'stronger' internals?

cuprajake 29 July 2014 05:17 PM

you'll have to do a bit of digging on the forums

when you look back at the 1.8t engine out of the golf, you can bolt the ko4 s3 turbo and minifold/exhaust and injectors to it, but there different internally again.

just need to search on audi sport, seatcupra.net and on mk5golf gti forum


jake

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 05:23 PM

Iirc the tfsi/tsi engines (gti,audis etc) can take 400lbs tourque (APRs confirmation)

kevfawcett 29 July 2014 05:27 PM

Nice purchase Jake, fantastic looking car and should be great to drive

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by cuprajake (Post 11478728)
you'll have to do a bit of digging on the forums

when you look back at the 1.8t engine out of the golf, you can bolt the ko4 s3 turbo and minifold/exhaust and injectors to it, but there different internally again.

just need to search on audi sport, seatcupra.net and on mk5golf gti forum


jake

I had, and the '2.0'engine tfsi/tsi are all the same (they made the 1st tfsi in early 08 it think and then the tsi which is practically the tfsi in 2009 iirc which may of had a better set up than the earlier ones, to which you maybe thinking?) just with different turbo kits.
My guess is that your edition 30 has a k04 turbo and vw had tuned it just below the s3 (sales/marketing rights for s3 sales, hence they had the r32 and now golfR for bigger power as stock for the other market)

kevfawcett 29 July 2014 05:54 PM

Don't understand why people are finding it so hard to believe that the engines are different. This is taken from Mk5Golfgti.co.uk

Differences between the Volkswagen Golf GTI Engine and the Volkswagen Golf Edition 30 and Pirelli Engine.

Larger Turbo from S3 (K04) rather then the K03 on the GTI
87°C thermostat instead of 80°C
Larger capacity fuel injectors (13% higher flow)
Larger intercooler (smaller then the S3) (* danishmkvgti - states that std GTI and ED30 IC are the same size)
Engine block main bearing caps, pedestals are reinforced
Conrods have larger rod bolts and new bearings
Pistons have 21mm gudgeon pins instead of 19mm
Piston top ring is improved
Recirculation Valve (blow off valve) not located on turbo
The Audi S3 and the Edition 30/Pirelli/Seat Leon Cupra R share the same short block, same turbo and similar intercooler.

And can be found here for anybody that's interested
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...p?topic=5050.0

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 06:09 PM


Originally Posted by kevfawcett (Post 11478761)
Don't understand why people are finding it so hard to believe that the engines are different. This is taken from Mk5Golfgti.co.uk

Differences between the Volkswagen Golf GTI Engine and the Volkswagen Golf Edition 30 and Pirelli Engine.

Larger Turbo from S3 (K04) rather then the K03 on the GTI
87°C thermostat instead of 80°C
Larger capacity fuel injectors (13% higher flow)
Larger intercooler (smaller then the S3) (* danishmkvgti - states that std GTI and ED30 IC are the same size)
Engine block main bearing caps, pedestals are reinforced
Conrods have larger rod bolts and new bearings
Pistons have 21mm gudgeon pins instead of 19mm
Piston top ring is improved
Recirculation Valve (blow off valve) not located on turbo
The Audi S3 and the Edition 30/Pirelli/Seat Leon Cupra R share the same short block, same turbo and similar intercooler.

And can be found here for anybody that's interested
http://www.mk5golfgti.co.uk/forum/in...p?topic=5050.0

Thanks,
And it's not 'people' it's ME that's questioning it. Not to catch him out or anything. It's just I have intrest in it myself as I have a audi with the 2.0tfsi engine and genuinely interested.:thumb:
I did some research on tuning etc and the tuners like revo and apr state for upgrading my engine to a hp that's given for the s3's and alike, will need a k04 kit. Nothing about injectors, fuel pump. And max safe power on stock internals is 400lbs tourque with supporting mods. (Hence my questions).
Maybe the edition 30 and s3's etc will be able to take more tourque on stock internals?

kevfawcett 29 July 2014 06:18 PM

I have seen a few threads (not just on here) of people doubting that there are differences, wasn't just aimed at you, although I can see why you thought it was :thumb:

Don't see why they would make more torque, would the different compression ratios affect that at all?

I seem to remember discussing Audi's with you before, if you have a B8 A4 Avant?

cuprajake 29 July 2014 06:28 PM

I know the standard engine will do 500bhp without worry.

The ed30 I'm buying also has the s3 intercooler fitted ;)

I've got an intake for it and the cars already stage one. Which is enough for what it is.

I'd of loved a Sprint blue s3 but my budget wouldn't stretch to it. Sadly lol.

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by kevfawcett (Post 11478776)
I have seen a few threads (not just on here) of people doubting that there are differences, wasn't just aimed at you, although I can see why you thought it was :thumb:

Don't see why they would make more torque, would the different compression ratios affect that at all?

I seem to remember discussing Audi's with you before, if you have a B8 A4 Avant?

Cool.
Yes I have a b8 avant.
I wasn't sure of, if it was because the tfsi engine were started from 2004-2009 in the mk5 golf I think. And I have a 2010 engine made me think maybe it's the newer engine (hence being able to take a bit of tourque on stock internals 400 I've read, and in my position I would need a k04 kit to achieve stage 3+ power?)
Apparently I have a small turbo :confused: but stock it make 211hp 258lbs and a stage 1 would see it around 250-270hp and that's probably maxed turbo.

Don't know why all the different specs on the tfsi engines in other marques, I bet the mk6 don't have all these 'extra' talk in the pub parts fitted due to eu emissions etc, or do they?
Well that's another story we'll leave to the vw forums shall we :D

bustaMOVEs 29 July 2014 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by cuprajake (Post 11478782)
I know the standard engine will do 500bhp without worry.

The ed30 I'm buying also has the s3 intercooler fitted ;)

I've got an intake for it and the cars already stage one. Which is enough for what it is.

I'd of loved a Sprint blue s3 but my budget wouldn't stretch to it. Sadly lol.

What's 500 hp in torque?

In fwd, that's just madness with all these stages 1,2,3 lol.
Are they drivable as these levels of power that's their capable of :eek:


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