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markb_s1 10 August 2011 03:52 PM


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 10179062)
I was surprised to hear that the first looter has already been sentenced. I was shocked at how quickly the wheels of justice were turning. I was actually kinda hopeful that the looters who had already entered guilty pleas would receive reasonably severe sentences, to serve as an example to others.

Then, I learned that the looter sentenced (apparently a 19 year old student) had received a jail sentence of…1 day. And had already been released as he had been in custody over night.

So, no examples to other looters then.

Sometimes wonder why my lot bother


Well I, for one, and I'm sure many others appreciate your efforts :) :thumb:

JTaylor 10 August 2011 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by markb_s1 (Post 10179237)
Well I, for one, and I'm sure many others appreciate your efforts :) :thumb:

Well said.

Thanks to you and your colleagues, Bonehead. :notworthy

Will 10 August 2011 04:25 PM

I'd love to walk up to some of the looters and do this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38HmSSAGSo



:D

The Dogs B******s 10 August 2011 04:34 PM

:lol1:

JTaylor 10 August 2011 04:37 PM

:D














:Suspiciou

Chip 10 August 2011 05:15 PM

:lol1:

The Dogs B******s 10 August 2011 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by davyboy (Post 10179181)
Interesting.....a few months ago we would be saying how heavy handed the po po were, and demanding action from the officer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b74...layer_embedded

Good on em:thumb:

f1_fan 10 August 2011 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by davyboy (Post 10179181)
Interesting.....a few months ago we would be saying how heavy handed the po po were, and demanding action from the officer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b74...layer_embedded

The police now getting a trial by media over this on the BBC FFS :mad:

No wonder they don't bloody do anything.

The media are poison these days.

The Dogs B******s 10 August 2011 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10179367)
The police now getting a trial by media over this on the BBC FFS :mad:

No wonder they don't bloody do anything.

The media are poison these days.

Agree

f1_fan 10 August 2011 05:30 PM


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 10179062)
I was surprised to hear that the first looter has already been sentenced. I was shocked at how quickly the wheels of justice were turning. I was actually kinda hopeful that the looters who had already entered guilty pleas would receive reasonably severe sentences, to serve as an example to others.

Then, I learned that the looter sentenced (apparently a 19 year old student) had received a jail sentence of…1 day. And had already been released as he had been in custody over night.

So, no examples to other looters then.

Sometimes wonder why my lot bother

Christ what the f**k is wrong with this country? These stupid sentences were supposed to be goping to be done away with under our wonderful new leaders... yet nothing has changed.

A p1ss weak government, a police force with its hands tied behind its back and a judiciary that seem to enjoy finding ways to hand out more and more lenient sentencing.

No wonder the lawless sh1thole we call the UK is descending into utter anarchy!

ditchmyster 10 August 2011 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by Will (Post 10179286)
I'd love to walk up to some of the looters and do this so that when they catch me they can gang rape my bum and give me some of that big black kok i love so much :D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38HmSSAGSo



:D

EFA:thumb:

jono300 10 August 2011 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Bonehead (Post 10179062)
I was surprised to hear that the first looter has already been sentenced. I was shocked at how quickly the wheels of justice were turning. I was actually kinda hopeful that the looters who had already entered guilty pleas would receive reasonably severe sentences, to serve as an example to others.

Then, I learned that the looter sentenced (apparently a 19 year old student) had received a jail sentence of…1 day. And had already been released as he had been in custody over night.

So, no examples to other looters then.

Sometimes wonder why my lot bother

Strange according to some top ex police guy on the tv this morning ( Eamonn Holmes / wife show ) the first convicted looter did not get a custodial jail sentence, also pointed out that off the over 600 arrested only over a hundred have actually been charged and said the vast majority off cases would be dropped. Eamonn Holmes was spot on laughing at what was said regards the anyone caught looting would feel the full force off the law !!!

Seems everyone / everything is getting into the looting thing now !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqy9hxhUxK0

wrbhawk 10 August 2011 05:58 PM

Two men in Manchester sentenced just now for their part in the riots. Given 10 and 16 weeks.

f1_fan 10 August 2011 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by wrbhawk (Post 10179427)
Two men in Manchester sentenced just now for their part in the riots. Given 10 and 16 weeks.

Replace weeks with years and that would have been spot on... or just put them to death!

JTaylor 10 August 2011 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by jono300 (Post 10179421)

Seems everyone / everything is getting into the looting thing now !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kqy9hxhUxK0

He's now been arrested by the flying-squad and will be doing bird.

J4CKO 10 August 2011 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10179367)
The police now getting a trial by media over this on the BBC FFS :mad:

No wonder they don't bloody do anything.

The media are poison these days.

Cant the do gooders get it straight that the reason this is happening is that they arent scared of the Police, the judicial system or any authority, the Police have been made toothless and this is what happens, these scum dont understand anythign else, they dont know what they are doing, they dont have the brains to articulate it and if they could its still a load of half baked horse **** to try and cover their actions but they do understand a side handled baton and how it can cause some pain.

What is an appropriate response to stealing, destruction, intimidation and sportswear ? well in a lot of countries you get shot on site or tried, convicted and sentenced to death, funnily enough they have little in the way of this kind of behaviour, not advocating that here but there needs to be some tough justice, there needs to be some downside to destroying someones life and burning stuff, ok violence has no place in civilised society but this aint civilised society in case anyone hasnt noticed.

**** them until they scream for their mummies, dont drag it out through the courts, sort it out here and then, send them on their way with a few impressive bruises which will dissapear but the memory will not and it may make then think next time, perhaps a dab of CS gas behind the ears to finish the job, am assuming that though they are not clever that if a 3 month old Dog can get the idea not to chew the chair legs via a little Tabasco applied and a tap with the Newspaper then a 14 year old human, even of low IQ can get it,

distressing experience = dont do it again

wheras lots of attention and no real punishment = current situation

I am not sure we need more Police, just the ones we have need to be able to operate without their hands tied, they also need to be sure that if they abuse that power then they are subject to the same laws and will be prosecuted.

jameswrx 10 August 2011 06:22 PM

Looks a bit tense in birmingham. Just watching the father of one of the murdered asian lads speak live on sky news pleading for people to stay off the streets tonight... Almost kicked off live on air by the sounds of the shouting after. Saw that reporter guy (now world famous) from sangat tv and switched over to that (847 if you don't know) bloke is quite amusing, worth a watch.. Think he's after an oscar.. Almost in tears with his immotive speaches, then he's smiling 2 secs later.

Anyone See the 2 guys there moving on some of the annoying kids that kept wandering in front of the camera to be pratts?

I was actually hoping things might calm down tonight but got a nasty feeling now.

JTaylor 10 August 2011 06:32 PM

http://m.guardian.co.uk/ms/p/gnm/op/...at=top-stories

Thought this was quite touching from the father:

"I don't blame the government, I don't blame the police, I don't blame nobody. It was his destiny and his fate, and now he's gone."

Reminded of Kipling's If

http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_if.htm

Wooffy 10 August 2011 06:36 PM

None of this can be assosiated with any single ethnic or class group as it was perpetrated by a wide spectrum of society. One was a 31 year old primary school teacher! The liberal attitude to discipline and punishment has bred a society of no moral standards. Too many are informed of their rights but not their responsibilities!

Nice to see the councils have already declared that any council tenant convicted will be evicted. Manchester council have gone one better and stated that any child of a council tenant then that family will be evicted. It's high time parental responsibility was taken seriously.

What was good to witness was the decent youngsters and adults volunteering to get stuck in cleaning up after the damage.

jameswrx 10 August 2011 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by Wooffy (Post 10179489)
Nice to see the councils have already declared that any council tenant convicted will be evicted. Manchester council have gone one better and stated that any child of a council tenant then that family will be evicted. It's high time parental responsibility was taken seriously.

That would be nice, but really I can't believe it'd ever happen (as lovely as it sounds)

need4speeduk 10 August 2011 06:47 PM

Lets be honest. Most of us see crime happening far too often. If we see it, so do the police.

Take a walk down most poor areas. You'll be offered every drug under the sun within 10 minutes. Ever been a victim of online fraud? Courts wont do anything, police wont do anything, no one does anything. Car gets nicked, you report it but feck all happens unless its stumbled upon by chance.

And these little morons ripping up the streets at the moment. Do we really think anything substantial is gonna happen to them? Doubtful to say the least.

Yet the honest hard working average Joe Bloggs works 9-5 for 50 years, bearly earns enough to buy a house and have a week or two in the sun once a year. Then after 50 years service you get a wrist watch or clock and a thank you. You retire and cant afford to heat your home and then when your I'll or get to an age where you need some support they take your house off you to pay for it.

This country makes a mug out of honest decent people and cares more about a criminals human rights than any victims.

These people doing this nonsense are scum, no doubt, but in a country where things are so fecked up for the honest and decent and minimal if any comebacks for committing crime, is it really such a surprise.

Sadly not to me. No wonder so many people emigrate these days. The UK is becoming one major S**T hole.

Just my opinion of course

Dirk Diggler 75 10 August 2011 06:53 PM


Originally Posted by need4speeduk (Post 10179507)
Lets be honest. Most of us see crime happening far too often. If we see it, so do the police.

Take a walk down most poor areas. You'll be offered every drug under the sun within 10 minutes. Ever been a victim of online fraud? Courts wont do anything, police wont do anything, no one does anything. Car gets nicked, you report it but feck all happens unless its stumbled upon by chance.

And these little morons ripping up the streets at the moment. Do we really think anything substantial is gonna happen to them? Doubtful to say the least.

Yet the honest hard working average Joe Bloggs works 9-5 for 50 years, bearly earns enough to buy a house and have a week or two in the sun once a year. Then after 50 years service you get a wrist watch or clock and a thank you. You retire and cant afford to heat your home and then when your I'll or get to an age where you need some support they take your house off you to pay for it.

This country makes a mug out of honest decent people and cares more about a criminals human rights than any victims.

These people doing this nonsense are scum, no doubt, but in a country where things are so fecked up for the honest and decent and minimal if any comebacks for committing crime, is it really such a surprise.

Sadly not to me. No wonder so many people emigrate these days. The UK is becoming one major S**T hole.

Just my opinion of course

Spot On.....

jameswrx 10 August 2011 07:01 PM


Originally Posted by need4speeduk (Post 10179507)
Lets be honest. Most of us see crime happening far too often. If we see it, so do the police.

Take a walk down most poor areas. You'll be offered every drug under the sun within 10 minutes. Ever been a victim of online fraud? Courts wont do anything, police wont do anything, no one does anything. Car gets nicked, you report it but feck all happens unless its stumbled upon by chance.

And these little morons ripping up the streets at the moment. Do we really think anything substantial is gonna happen to them? Doubtful to say the least.

Yet the honest hard working average Joe Bloggs works 9-5 for 50 years, bearly earns enough to buy a house and have a week or two in the sun once a year. Then after 50 years service you get a wrist watch or clock and a thank you. You retire and cant afford to heat your home and then when your I'll or get to an age where you need some support they take your house off you to pay for it.

This country makes a mug out of honest decent people and cares more about a criminals human rights than any victims.

These people doing this nonsense are scum, no doubt, but in a country where things are so fecked up for the honest and decent and minimal if any comebacks for committing crime, is it really such a surprise.

Sadly not to me. No wonder so many people emigrate these days. The UK is becoming one major S**T hole.

Just my opinion of course

You're right, the justice system is a joke to these idiots.

Did you hear some of these clowns being interviewed on the punishment subject? Interviewer said something along the lines of "why are you doing this?" **** replies "coz I can, d'ya get me innit" and interviewer said "what about when the police catch up with you?" to which he replied "don't care, they won't do anything. Maybe I'll ge an asbo, big deal I can take that"

They know they'll get fek all in the way of meaningful punishment. They've already jailed some of the clowns, few weeks in prison. Great!

Bit like the cnuts that drive around without insurance and get pulled and given a driving ban on a licence they don't even have! Doesn't effect them at all, they buy another ****ter and carry on regardless.

The only real people who get shafted in is country are people like you and I.

Maybe the good, honest, tax paying, hard working folk should be the ones demonstrating on the streets.

f1_fan 10 August 2011 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by J4CKO (Post 10179449)
Cant the do gooders get it straight that the reason this is happening is that they arent scared of the Police, the judicial system or any authority, the Police have been made toothless and this is what happens, these scum dont understand anythign else, they dont know what they are doing, they dont have the brains to articulate it and if they could its still a load of half baked horse **** to try and cover their actions but they do understand a side handled baton and how it can cause some pain.

What is an appropriate response to stealing, destruction, intimidation and sportswear ? well in a lot of countries you get shot on site or tried, convicted and sentenced to death, funnily enough they have little in the way of this kind of behaviour, not advocating that here but there needs to be some tough justice, there needs to be some downside to destroying someones life and burning stuff, ok violence has no place in civilised society but this aint civilised society in case anyone hasnt noticed.

**** them until they scream for their mummies, dont drag it out through the courts, sort it out here and then, send them on their way with a few impressive bruises which will dissapear but the memory will not and it may make then think next time, perhaps a dab of CS gas behind the ears to finish the job, am assuming that though they are not clever that if a 3 month old Dog can get the idea not to chew the chair legs via a little Tabasco applied and a tap with the Newspaper then a 14 year old human, even of low IQ can get it,

distressing experience = dont do it again

wheras lots of attention and no real punishment = current situation

I am not sure we need more Police, just the ones we have need to be able to operate without their hands tied, they also need to be sure that if they abuse that power then they are subject to the same laws and will be prosecuted.

:thumb: Absolutely spot on post!!!

Anders_WR1 10 August 2011 07:26 PM

These looters and thieves need a digit cut off every time they steal...they'll soon get the picture and one thing it for sure, they won't steel more than 10 times.

Anders

The Zohan 10 August 2011 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by ditchmyster (Post 10179396)
EFA:thumb:

+1 Will loves rioters cock!

madscoob 10 August 2011 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by jameswrx (Post 10179525)
You're right, the justice system is a joke to these idiots.

Did you hear some of these clowns being interviewed on the punishment subject? Interviewer said something along the lines of "why are you doing this?" **** replies "coz I can, d'ya get me innit" and interviewer said "what about when the police catch up with you?" to which he replied "don't care, they won't do anything. Maybe I'll ge an asbo, big deal I can take that"

They know they'll get fek all in the way of meaningful punishment. They've already jailed some of the clowns, few weeks in prison. Great!

Bit like the cnuts that drive around without insurance and get pulled and given a driving ban on a licence they don't even have! Doesn't effect them at all, they buy another ****ter and carry on regardless.

The only real people who get shafted in is country are people like you and I.

Maybe the good, honest, tax paying, hard working folk should be the ones demonstrating on the streets.

these things rioting are the have nots of society , how long will it be before the have somethings start , i work all month to be £72quid better off than sat at home on my arse , commercial greed has firked the counry

morpheus1870 10 August 2011 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10179376)
Christ what the f**k is wrong with this country? These stupid sentences were supposed to be goping to be done away with under our wonderful new leaders... yet nothing has changed.

A p1ss weak government, a police force with its hands tied behind its back and a judiciary that seem to enjoy finding ways to hand out more and more lenient sentencing.

No wonder the lawless sh1thole we call the UK is descending into utter anarchy!

SPOT ON :thumb:

morpheus1870 10 August 2011 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by Will (Post 10179286)
I'd love to walk up to some of the looters and do this:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U38HmSSAGSo



:D

:cry::lol::lol::lol::lol::cry::cry::cry::cry::lol: :lol::lol:

matty01 10 August 2011 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by davyboy (Post 10179181)
Interesting.....a few months ago we would be saying how heavy handed the po po were, and demanding action from the officer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1b74...layer_embedded

This sort of behavior by the police is unacceptable wtf are they doing , don't frikin stop hitting them carry on !! :D


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