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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
(Post 11227672)
If you plan to mod and not go over 350bhp then the WRX makes perfect sense with your budget.
From a modders perspective the only aspect that makes the STI better is the 6 speed's ability to take more power, but you really want an 04 onwards for guaranteed gearbox reliability, because you'll change pretty much everything else (see tubbs car as a perfect example). But this is also dependant on how far you want to go. A nice clean low miles WRX is better and a lot cheaper than a knackered STI. But it is a waiting game and the odd decent cheap STI does come up, there was one for £5k a week or so ago, and they definitely come up inside your budget, just buy the best example of either you can find. |
Yeah that's not cheap,finding a good Scooby is not easy,I waited months on end for my wrx to come up.depends how patient you are really!
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To be honest a guy from my club just sold his 04 wide track,mint with 88k for 6k to a fellow club member of ours who snapped it up.was worth 7k+ all day long,god knows why he let it go so cheap.
So they so come along |
Originally Posted by ditchmyster
(Post 11227672)
If you plan to mod and not go over 350bhp then the WRX makes perfect sense with your budget.
From a modders perspective the only aspect that makes the STI better is the 6 speed's ability to take more power, but you really want an 04 onwards for guaranteed gearbox reliability, because you'll change pretty much everything else (see tubbs car as a perfect example). But this is also dependant on how far you want to go. A nice clean low miles WRX is better and a lot cheaper than a knackered STI. But it is a waiting game and the odd decent cheap STI does come up, there was one for £5k a week or so ago, and they definitely come up inside your budget, just buy the best example of either you can find. Give me a 350bhp Newage WRX and I bet I can break it in less than a mornings track work! Oh, and for the record....my 2002 6speed box was still going fine the day I sent it abroad to the new owner, 100000 miles with the last 5000 over 400bhp. |
Originally Posted by jayallen
(Post 11227698)
You just don't give up do you!
Give me a 350bhp Newage WRX and I bet I can break it in less than a mornings track work! Oh, and for the record....my 2002 6speed box was still going fine the day I sent it abroad to the new owner, 100000 miles with the last 5000 over 400bhp. |
Not at all Tidgy...I've seen a few WRX's owned by friends running that kind of power and less give up on trackdays.....engines and gearbox's
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Save a bit more and get the sti. I was in your position, drive both and realised the sti is worth the premium. Silky smooth box, good brakes and a little bit more focused.
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Before I put my Sti8 lump in,I was running 351bhp on standard wrx engine/box/clutch etc,I drove it hard yes,but still had respect for it and all was fine for 8months.of course if you hammer any car round a track for half a day with no respect for it,it will take its toll on it!!
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car wouldn't be getting pushed much anyway, it will be a daily car and one of the reasons I aint really after performance so much is the fact I rarely ever put my foot down in my evo when I had that, other than the odd blip out of roundabouts etc
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Originally Posted by jake1989
(Post 11227681)
To be honest a guy from my club just sold his 04 wide track,mint with 88k for 6k to a fellow club member of ours who snapped it up.was worth 7k+ all day long,god knows why he let it go so cheap.
So they so come along widetrack wasnt out until 05 earliest are on a 54 plate |
tidgy the thing is with your wrx it has been rebuilt and forged due to the crap 2.5 dying and now has 400 bhp and standard wrx suspension and wrx brakes.
its a nice car but just fast in a straight line, in my opinion the brakes and suspension arent really up to the job. |
Originally Posted by ditchmyster
(Post 11227672)
If you plan to mod and not go over 350bhp then the WRX makes perfect sense with your budget.
From a modders perspective the only aspect that makes the STI better is the 6 speed's ability to take more power, but you really want an 04 onwards for guaranteed gearbox reliability, because you'll change pretty much everything else (see tubbs car as a perfect example). But this is also dependant on how far you want to go. A nice clean low miles WRX is better and a lot cheaper than a knackered STI. But it is a waiting game and the odd decent cheap STI does come up, there was one for £5k a week or so ago, and they definitely come up inside your budget, just buy the best example of either you can find. my car has mostly standard sti,engine gearbox and running gear. it has coilovers due to wanting the car lower and a big brake conversion. your wrx (allegedly) has a brake conversion also:thumb: its not just the gearbox and brakes that are better on the sti, the engine is far stronger and has avcs heads too, its good for 450 bhp in standard form about 100bhp more than the wrx. 350 bhp is the limit for a wrx so you are running it at the most power it can take and its a ticking time bomb on how long it lasts at that power and the fact it wont bloody stop. 350 bhp is easily achievable in an sti and nowhere near its maximum for engine gearbox and brakes. |
Originally Posted by tubbytommy
(Post 11228026)
widetrack wasnt out until 05 earliest are on a 54 plate
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
(Post 11228027)
tidgy the thing is with your wrx it has been rebuilt and forged due to the crap 2.5 dying and now has 400 bhp and standard wrx suspension and wrx brakes.
its a nice car but just fast in a straight line, in my opinion the brakes and suspension arent really up to the job. hahaha shhhh ;) i'd replace the suspension and brakes anyway if i was gonna track it, even on an sti. Dont get me wrong though. i'm driving mine like a pussy because of it ;) |
Originally Posted by jayallen
(Post 11227732)
Not at all Tidgy...I've seen a few WRX's owned by friends running that kind of power and less give up on trackdays.....engines and gearbox's
i know a few sti's that have as well, but i also know some that have been pushed seiously hard by pro drives yet havn't broken. A decent driver is also a mechanicly sympathetic driver. |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11229312)
hahaha shhhh ;)
i'd replace the suspension and brakes anyway if i was gonna track it, even on an sti. Dont get me wrong though. i'm driving mine like a pussy because of it ;) this is the reason the sti is better as the running gear is up to the job:thumb: |
Originally Posted by tubbytommy
(Post 11229343)
so whats the point of having 400 bhp if you cant use it because of the running gear???
this is the reason the sti is better as the running gear is up to the job:thumb: gearbox etc is fine, just need to do brake and suspension, besides its not like sti comes full setup either, still have to do rarb, anti lift etc etc |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11229355)
gearbox etc is fine, just need to do brake and suspension, besides its not like sti comes full setup either, still have to do rarb, anti lift etc etc
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
(Post 11229360)
it needs tweaking but the major components are there and safe to use at that power, which i cant say is correct for the wrx standard set up.
depends how far you want to mod mate, as i;ve said beore, if the standard sti parts are gonna be repalced anyway, why pay extra for them? |
Originally Posted by Tidgy
(Post 11229389)
depends how far you want to mod mate, as i;ve said beore, if the standard sti parts are gonna be repalced anyway, why pay extra for them?
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
(Post 11229392)
i agree to a point but the sti parts can be sold on and the major downside to the wrx is it 5 speed box.
although by personal choice i would like 5th gear to be longer |
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Where are you based oli?
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located in stafford
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Ok, was going to say if you were closer to come and have a look at mine
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I really haven't got £7k to spend on a car though. im still partially leaning towards a wrx though as the money I do have to spend ill be able to get the car to how I want.
Will probably look for other cars though if nothing comes up probably this time next month |
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