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R6HNN 25 February 2013 11:45 PM

That's pretty light! I'll see you there

mantazini 27 February 2013 09:17 PM

Couple more things in.....

Viper Perfomance induction silicone hose....quality looking thing...

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...psecab5631.jpg

Hardrace extended ball joints / bump steer kit...

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps00787dc2.jpg

Project Mu wheel nuts and Race X Proffesional tyre gauge, it did very well in the Autoexpress review, check it out it's very good kit for the money...

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps1eb56985.jpg

Will be fitting the bump steer kit tomorrow , will see the effect...

JonMc 27 February 2013 09:25 PM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11005017)
They did Rey, i loved the way they looked, but everything else was wrong for what i wanted... The new 17" SSR's that are now are perfect fit just need to powdercoat them in hyper black :wonder: and the best part is the weight 5.5kg without a tyre , that makes a big impact on stopping etc.... Come over on sunday to the meet and show what you've got yourself recently :norty:

:thumb:

Mantas

I missed out on those wheels twice, got beaten to them by Maggs when they first came on the market and then discovered he'd sold them on - I was truly gutted as they are just what I was after for daily/track use on my bug:cry:

rickya 27 February 2013 10:06 PM

Where did you get the tyre pressure gauge from mate?
PS get an extra jubilee clip for the centre of the silicon hose, to put around losely, stops it sucking in by keeping circular shape.

jura11 01 March 2013 12:46 AM

Great upgrades Mantas and good project:thumb:,those nuts looking good,hopefully they will last blue

Jura

mantazini 01 March 2013 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 11008875)
Great upgrades Mantas and good project:thumb:,those nuts looking good,hopefully they will last blue

Jura

Thanks Jura, the wheel nuts are not blue , its just the cap which is blue, the nuts themselves are in hyper black sort of colour, i think thir not even painted its just the metal colour....

mantazini 01 March 2013 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by rickya (Post 11007489)
Where did you get the tyre pressure gauge from mate?
PS get an extra jubilee clip for the centre of the silicon hose, to put around losely, stops it sucking in by keeping circular shape.

It's 5 layer pipe and is quite hard ....I dont think the turbo will suck the air so hard that it will suck it in actualy...

;)

The tyre pressure gauge is from amazon ...BTW

rickya 01 March 2013 04:17 PM

Your quite right mate, I was getting confused with my turbo inlet hose sucking in!! old age :(

mantazini 02 March 2013 04:32 PM

WR Lip fitted and grill colour matched to the rest of front end....a sneak preview of amazing things Sergej (Idea Photography) can do ;)

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps833cdcb8.jpg

JonMc 02 March 2013 04:52 PM

Looks great Mantas, I do like those splitters - great find:thumb:

mantazini 02 March 2013 05:24 PM


Originally Posted by JonMc (Post 11010341)
Looks great Mantas, I do like those splitters - great find:thumb:

I was searching for ages to get the genuine one , eventualy it came up for the right money ...
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps899bee72.jpg

:thumb:

a5h 03 March 2013 12:21 AM

Top pic of your motor there Mantaz

M444GY 03 March 2013 10:42 AM

wicked pic mate :thumb: serj is a great picture monkey :D

mantazini 05 March 2013 10:45 PM

Got all the bits together now.... FB booked on thursday ....And so will be ready for Cadwell.... Jus need to study the track a bit more and off we go....

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9c026966.jpg

JonMc 05 March 2013 10:47 PM

Rich is gonna be busy getting the MSOC fleet ready for Cadwell:thumb:

martin850 06 March 2013 07:13 AM

And busy sorting out those if us who aren't going as well. My remap is booked in with him next Thursday :D

martin850 06 March 2013 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11014528)
Got all the bits together now.... FB booked on thursday ....And so will be ready for Cadwell.... Jus need to study the track a bit more and off we go....

http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9c026966.jpg

Awesome pic Mantas, it's looking really nice now. The spoiler sets it off nicely :thumb:

mantazini 07 March 2013 09:56 PM

Long day @ FB today.... life's not perfect so had a couple bugs on the day that poped out and had to be sorted before Cadwell.... The task we had was:


RCM induction kit + Viper Perfomance silicone hose
Change oil and filter
Tweek the map to the changes
Hardrace bump steer kit
Camber bolts
Geometry

Not everything went smooth as i had one thing occured last week..Had a bit of oil smell comming into the cabin, and the oil level was comming down not as usual as it was before... I know it goes a bit through the breethers if you don't have the oil catch can when driving it properly, but that wasn't the case. So we jacked it up and found the turbo oil return pipe gasket was leaking and oil was badly p***in down the turbo, downpie. The was no chance we could sort it out without taing the turbo out, so we had to do this... Lots of cofe with egg and bacon sandwiches and everything was off , resealed, cleaned , put back on... Unfortunately it took us most of the day and we had no time left to do the geometry. But we've done the important bit , so i'm happy.

Oil leake sorted
OIl+Filter changed
RCM kit fitted
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps9efeb26e.jpg


Time to put the Hardrace stuff..........:freak3: , as the bug is 12 years old , and so were wishbones and ball joints/bolts etc... Rich took one off , but there was a metal bit that had to go on the new ball joints and it wasn't going anywhere untill we did this to it :D
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...psc642308f.jpg

Eventualy it came off and fitted to the Hardrace kit...
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...psae90aebe.jpg

Mapping gear on ...and off we went...The weather wasn't perfect but Rich still could manage to make it run smooth and we'll finish it off as the weather gets better a bit with the geometry at the same time...
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps81a9e557.jpg

Nearly forgot of the unexpected mod we put on today.... Bought it yesterday,collected and fitted today....:lol1:

Cusco rear under brace
Genuine Subaru rear diffuser

Should stiffen up rear end a bit ....
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps70a38d79.jpg

And a dodgy hand of someones :Suspiciou:D
http://i629.photobucket.com/albums/u...ps55099ade.jpg

:thumb:

martin850 07 March 2013 10:06 PM

Nice update and progress mantas, there can't be that much left to add to the suspension set up?

JonMc 07 March 2013 10:18 PM

I remember trying to get those cones off my old ball joints - killer job without heat but I managed. Really coming together now, but why an induction kit without a FMIC? Surely a good panel filter would have avoided heat-soak:wonder:

mantazini 07 March 2013 10:31 PM

:lol1:

There's always going to add something Martin , but the question is is it necessary? In the real world i would say no. But studying my car and experience i had with my other 2s i have an idea what gains i want from every mod i do to it. It has to be a balance, not all mods will work alone so you have to do the whole lot to make it worth doing it.... Also as a fast road/ ocasional track car it must not be to stiff and track orientated as it will lose it's purpouse as a road car and will be a pain to drive it on the public roads...
We had a good conversation with Ash today about the brakes ;) , sometimes less is more .... Alot of people start modding from the wrong side....

:thumb:

JonMc 07 March 2013 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11016856)
:lol1:

There's always going to add something Martin , but the question is is it necessary? In the real world i would say no. But studying my car and experience i had with my other 2s i have an idea what gains i want from every mod i do to it. It has to be a balance, not all mods will work alone so you have to do the whole lot to make it worth doing it.... Also as a fast road/ ocasional track car it must not be to stiff and track orientated as it will lose it's purpouse as a road car and will be a pain to drive it on the public roads...
We had a good conversation with Ash today about the brakes ;) , sometimes less is more .... Alot of people start modding from the wrong side....

:thumb:

Having gone out with Alan on Sunday they are wise words - his classic was very skitish on the road because it is now so stiiff, but that is his track car so it will no doubt work great in that environment. Brakes are also an issue as he has some 6-pots up front but single pot sliders at the rear and the brake balance meant it was not right. The stiffness also meant that the ABS would kick in when the car became unsettled and weight was lost on one of the wheels - it's an art and hence why I have no ABS and currently still run springs and shock:wonder:

mantazini 07 March 2013 11:06 PM


Originally Posted by JonMc (Post 11016869)
Having gone out with Alan on Sunday they are wise words - his classic was very skitish on the road because it is now so stiiff, but that is his track car so it will no doubt work great in that environment. Brakes are also an issue as he has some 6-pots up front but single pot sliders at the rear and the brake balance meant it was not right. The stiffness also meant that the ABS would kick in when the car became unsettled and weight was lost on one of the wheels - it's an art and hence why I have no ABS and currently still run springs and shock:wonder:

We were discusing the brake balance today... The front bite i have on mine is so hard that the transition of the weight to the front makes the rear abit unsetled... I did a dig and theres a valve udjusting mod, but thats very serious as if you'll get it wrong then youre foked basicaly... So what alot of people do is they get the better compound rear pads , that will make a car body to duck equaly down balancing the transition of the weight ...It's difficult to explain me this guys , sorry i hope you understand the point... No ABS is not a good thing necessary Jon, specialy when its more of a fast road car ... If you'll have to brake in a unexpected situation you'll have an issue , but track work is different storry.:thumb: AP's on Woodies car are great but thats another exercise to learn how to not step to hard on them , but as mentioned at least 2 pots are needed on the rear... Although i have my own opinion about them..... but i'll be able to comment on this after Cadwell..

:thumb:

JonMc 07 March 2013 11:12 PM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11016905)
We were discusing the brake balance today... The front bite i have on mine is so hard that the transition of the weight to the front makes the rear abit unsetled... I did a dig and theres a valve udjusting mod, but thats very serious as if you'll get it wrong then youre foked basicaly... So what alot of people do is they get the better compound rear pads , that will make a car body to duck equaly down balancing the transition of the weight ...It's difficult to explain me this guys , sorry i hope you understand the point... No ABS is not a good thing necessary Jon, specialy when its more of a fast road car ... If you'll have to brake in a unexpected situation you'll have an issue , but track work is different storry.:thumb: AP's on Woodies car are great but thats another exercise to learn how to not step to hard on them , but as mentioned at least 2 pots are needed on the rear... Although i have my own opinion about them..... but i'll be able to comment on this after Cadwell..

:thumb:

ABS vs no-ABS is a preference mate - I learnt to drive without ABS and am more than happy to drive a road car without it as I was taught to pump the brake almost as a manual ABS. The balance is key and sticking with the factory brembo set-up will achieve a neutral balance assuming all is working well and front and rear brake/disc combos are matched but try and get rear brembo PF discs:eek:

That is why I ultimately went for a bias valve and I will play with it but currently I have slightlt more bias towards to rear so the back will step out under braking:norty:

mantazini 07 March 2013 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by JonMc (Post 11016908)
ABS vs no-ABS is a preference mate - I learnt to drive without ABS and am more than happy to drive a road car without it as I was taught to pump the brake almost as a manual ABS. The balance is key and sticking with the factory brembo set-up will achieve a neutral balance assuming all is working well and front and rear brake/disc combos are matched but try and get rear brembo PF discs:eek:

That is why I ultimately went for a bias valve and I will play with it but currently I have slightlt more bias towards to rear so the back will step out under braking:norty:

I see, fair point bud. If youre used to it then fair enough, i'm not and had some side way situation in my mates TA car at brands :cuckoo:, Bias valve its called then, nice, i ment that in my previous post, just dont make it to rear biased as it will spin you without even realising it... it need just a bit more bite... i would be interested in exploring this as well , keep us updated please...

:thumb:

JonMc 08 March 2013 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by mantazini (Post 11016921)
I see, fair point bud. If youre used to it then fair enough, i'm not and had some side way situation in my mates TA car at brands :cuckoo:, Bias valve its called then, nice, i ment that in my previous post, just dont make it to rear biased as it will spin you without even realising it... it need just a bit more bite... i would be interested in exploring this as well , keep us updated please...

:thumb:

I'm not sure whether an adjustable bias valve would work with ABS still in - I can't see why not but if you wanted to relocate it from where the fixed bias valve is under the bonnet to allow in-seat adjustment the routing would be quite complex. You'd also be taking a split feed, splicing into a single line to the valve and then splitting it again to go into the ABS pump:wonder:

I'm happy that I now get a nice flat braking with it set as it is for road use, but equally can adjust the bias front to rear depending upon how straight or complex any tracks I run on are:norty:

95turbowagon 08 March 2013 10:10 AM

Noticed any difference with the hardrace roll centre ball joints on?

M444GY 08 March 2013 08:00 PM

glad we didnt start doin the balljoints the other day lol

mantazini 08 March 2013 10:52 PM


Originally Posted by 95turbowagon (Post 11017087)
Noticed any difference with the hardrace roll centre ball joints on?


Straight away. reduced tramlining , which was the main reason i was keen to do the mod. Driving much more relaxed now. Still cant comment on the faster driving as havent done geometry yet. But will probably will describe the changes after next weekends outing.

;)

mantazini 08 March 2013 10:56 PM


Originally Posted by M444GY (Post 11017773)
glad we didnt start doin the balljoints the other day lol


Haha...that would have been a big mess... ;)


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