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The Trooper 1815 12 December 2012 01:40 PM

Why worship something that hates or denies you?

urban 12 December 2012 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 10903155)
Why worship something that hates or denies you?

Never understood that.
I guess they want it simply because they can't have it?

Martin2005 12 December 2012 02:08 PM


Originally Posted by The Trooper 1815 (Post 10903155)
Why worship something that hates or denies you?

Who said 'it' does?

The Trooper 1815 12 December 2012 02:32 PM

Obviously all the religions who don't want gay people as part of the church, culture or denomination.

addi monster 12 December 2012 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by urban (Post 10903171)
Never understood that.
I guess they want it simply because they can't have it?

:lol1:

pslewis 12 December 2012 05:36 PM

The rules of the Club state that Gays cannot Marry in its buildings.

That's the end of that then.

If God said that man shall not lie with man then he cannot sanction it within his churches, end of.

Why don't they get married in their own church? A Gay Church set up for Gays exclusively.

Martin2005 12 December 2012 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis (Post 10903417)
The rules of the Club state that Gays cannot Marry in its buildings.

That's the end of that then.

If God said that man shall not lie with man then he cannot sanction it within his churches, end of.

Why don't they get married in their own church? A Gay Church set up for Gays exclusively.

It is implicit from your post that you believe that people should have to choose between being gay and being Christian?

If the Church wanted to sacrifice Children, I guess we'd have to stand back and accept that it's their club with their rules?

pslewis 12 December 2012 06:03 PM

Sacrificing children is illegal ...... not marrying Gays is Legal - small, but VERY important hole in your argument.

If you are a gay Christian then you must remain celibate - like, for example, Cliff Richard (allegedly) .... or, you are going against the teachings of your faith.

Martin2005 12 December 2012 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis (Post 10903473)
Sacrificing children is illegal ...... not marrying Gays is Legal - small, but VERY important hole in your argument.

If you are a gay Christian then you must remain celibate - like, for example, Cliff Richard (allegedly) .... or, you are going against the teachings of your faith.

I think you'll find discrimination on the basis of sexuality is illegal, so hole filled in my argument and blown in yours

btw what Jesus have to say on the subject of sexuality?

pslewis 12 December 2012 06:32 PM

So, the churches are acting ilegally? Poppycock! Bigger hole in your argument then.

Jesus is not recorded as having said anything related to intimate sexual relationships between people of the same gender.

AndyBaker 12 December 2012 06:35 PM

I read somewhere that someone married a Lama (where the fcuk is this all going)

Martin2005 12 December 2012 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis (Post 10903511)
So, the churches are acting ilegally? Poppycock! Bigger hole in your argument then.

Jesus is not recorded as having said anything related to intimate sexual relationships between people of the same gender.

Not yet as there is no legal gay 'marriage', but when there is I'd expect the church to be challenged in the courts

btw - So what teaching's were you referring to then?

AndyBaker 12 December 2012 06:38 PM

If men married men and women married women then I would think in about 50 years we are all buggered (pardon the pun)

Martin2005 12 December 2012 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by AndyBaker (Post 10903517)
If men married men and women married women then I would think in about 50 years we are all buggered (pardon the pun)

Only if you added the word 'all' a couple of times to the sentence

cster 12 December 2012 07:08 PM

I'm looking forward to the day when the number of gay married couples is greater than the number of heterosexual married couples in this Royal Kingdom of ours.

addi monster 12 December 2012 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by cster (Post 10903552)
I'm looking forward to the day when the number of gay married couples is greater than the number of heterosexual married couples in this Royal Kingdom of ours.

Why :Suspiciou

nyscooby 12 December 2012 07:14 PM

GO GAY PEOPLE!! YEEEEHAAAAA!

Personal opinion is, everyone should be entitled to be as unhappy as my parents are!

Not sure why the approval of God is needed.... not sure why the church (who has pummelled millions of young boys bottoms) would disaprove.





Is thats how you spell pummalled?

pslewis 12 December 2012 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by Martin2005 (Post 10903516)
btw - So what teaching's were you referring to then?


Lev. 18:22
•‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
•"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13
•"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."
•"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

The above are difefrent takes on the same subject, in differing versions of the Bible.

God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. This signifies that God ordained order of male and female, not male and male or female and female. This is important because it was before the Mosaic Law was given.

Martin2005 12 December 2012 07:56 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis (Post 10903594)
Lev. 18:22
•‘You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."
•"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13
•"If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them."
•"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them."

The above are difefrent takes on the same subject, in differing versions of the Bible.

God created Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. This signifies that God ordained order of male and female, not male and male or female and female. This is important because it was before the Mosaic Law was given.

Did Jesus say any of this?

Also we are talking about a man who never married and spent most of his time with 12 other men, some of which he proclaimed to love!!!!

addi monster 12 December 2012 07:59 PM

Surley SN has some uphill gardeners, I would like to see there take on this :wonder:

Camsedin 12 December 2012 08:08 PM

god did not create jack sh!t tho as hes a figment of someones imagination ;)

Aaron1978 12 December 2012 08:11 PM


Originally Posted by Camsedin (Post 10903656)
god did not create jack sh!t tho as hes a figment of someones imagination ;)

You may be Scottish, but I like your way of thinking:D

pslewis 12 December 2012 08:32 PM


Originally Posted by Camsedin (Post 10903656)
god did not create jack sh!t tho as hes a figment of someones imagination ;)

If you're wrong ...... you're in BIG trouble!!

Camsedin 12 December 2012 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by pslewis (Post 10903697)
If you're wrong ...... you're in BIG trouble!!

haha :)
i think am safe lol

AndyBaker 12 December 2012 08:46 PM

Struggling a bit with this one. Man + Woman = Baby. I know we have test tubes and all that but goodness me where will it all end. I remember reading recently some bloke had married a Lama. Natural selection can only go so far.

f1_fan 12 December 2012 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by addi monster (Post 10903639)
Surley SN has some uphill gardeners, I would like to see there take on this :wonder:

I would be surprised if SN had even one regular poster who was gay being as the overall attitude to them on this site is like going back to the school playground 50 years ago. A lot of growing up needed around here not to mention an injection of intelligence into some posters!

addi monster 12 December 2012 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10903754)
I would be surprised if SN had even one regular poster who was gay being as the overall attitude to them on this site is like going back to the school playground 50 years ago. A lot of growing up needed around here not to mention an injection of intelligence into some posters!

Is that a confession chris :Suspiciou

f1_fan 12 December 2012 09:16 PM


Originally Posted by addi monster (Post 10903763)
Is that a confession chris :Suspiciou

A confession? You make it sound like it is something bad! So what if I was gay?

addi monster 12 December 2012 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by f1_fan (Post 10903767)
A confession? You make it sound like it is something bad! So what if I was gay?

Are you comming out on SN ?

f1_fan 12 December 2012 09:34 PM

Whatever makes you happy dearie ;)


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