And who says Fairies ar'nt real

No he said 'afraid'.

They are real .. I've seen one.

http://cutenakedangels.com/wp-conten...fionaluv-2.jpg

I'm sorry, but :lol1::lol1::lol1:

thats what ive always thought, but each to his own (Well the thick bit might be a tad harsh :D)

problem being that religion ends up causing wars, well that and oil :D

Conflict causes wars, political conflict.

I am Jesus

theres quite a history of religious wars mind :)
its used as front in alot of cases i guess..

quite a good little read on wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_war

Fair play to him for saying it, but it can't be proved either way.

Francis Collins says otherwise.

one can only conclude he is thick too

Yeah what has this so called science done for us anyway! They keep changing their minds on what they believe! At least all religious people KNOW the truth, so are clearly in a better position than these scientists! They make me laugh with all their "theories" that the gullible lap up.

Those of the faith have the word of god to tell them the right way, what more proof do you need? Its written in the Bible, how can you possibly dispute that? gods word is truth!

err "the way and the light" too

And how can one reach only that conclusion? Do you know what his God-concept is? In fact do you know who he is?

trying to match the belief in god with science?

urgh.

Yes, to an extent. But what is his understanding of God? And who is he, again? ;)

damn! I missed that bit out! You get the general idea though

thankyou acstua


it is the ultimate conspiracy theory, pick one thing you can't explain in the majesty of nature and then wrap a load of numbo jumbo boll0cks around it

Anyway - God bless those fairies!

yes -- i'm just going to say goodnight to the gnomes at the bottom of my garden

goodnight everyone

Why is it mumbo jumbo bollocks? He believes in the teachings of Christ, as I do (with conditions) and has been able to square that philosophy with sprituality and science. What's bollocks about it? And who is he, again?

i might write a book and see how many people take it as gospel in a few hundred years, or theres always the great spaghetti monster :D

anyhow each to his own, but when ever i get around to having kids i will not force any belief, be it for or against and let them make up their own mind when they are old enough
i reckon there is an element of people brought up with the beliefs brainwashed into them at a young age, certainly theres some very scary groups in america who are trying to get into gov'

Well hes made a few quid out of this one , come in handy :thumb:

Don't forget it only takes 15 years to create a religion that people have total and utter faith in.

If it's with conditions, then it's not belief. You cannot apply conditions to someone else's teachings, otherwise you are questioning those teachings. If Jesus is the son of God, then his teaching/actions are without question.

How can you square those things with science when some of them directly contradict proven science?

Geezer

You remind me of Tony Blair – who in a had a debate with Christopher Hitchens about religion

When discussing the troubles in NI, and promoting the positive role of religion Tony Blair asserted that it was the “faith” groups that had helped resolve the divisions in the country

The ironic crassness and stupidity of his statement went completely over his head – like you he sees the world through the prism of religion

Maybe your cavalier attitude to life is explain by your belief in Christ and the afterlife – maybe like the suicide bombers, you believe in the Christian equivalent of 50 virgins

Different sides same coin

Lol!! Belief in the afterlife? Belief in Christ? What are going on about, now! :lol1: And, who's Francis Collins? (You may be impressed with the work he's doing with poor old Hitch's cancer).

And here's another one. Why can I not believe in the notion of universal, inclusive, brotherly love and reject, for example, turn the other cheek? Why can I not apply conditions to somebody elses teachings? I am questioning some of Christ's teachings? And? And WTF has the Son of God to do with it? Son of man, was he? Maybe.

"How can you square those things with science when some of them directly contradict proven science?" What are you talking about? :freak3:

So, like Hodgy, you've conjured up these wild conclusions. Well done, you. :lol1:

OK, of course you can agree with some aspects of and reject others, but that is not what you said, you said you "believe in the teachings of Christ".

That puts quite a different slant on it. Your post inferred (deliberately or accidentally, only you can know that) that you accept that teachings, which leads to a conclusion that you also believe he is the son of God. That is simply not the same, as you now claim, that you think some of the things he said are ok.


Anyone can claim that, being good to others is not a bad thing to say, but then again, he wasn't the first.

As for science, this is not applicable to you per se, but it still stands, how can someone believe in Jesus/God and science? As we say in the IT world, they are mutually exclusive keywords ;)

You may have known what you are talking about, but your post didn't infer that, and no matter what you think you meant, two people have inferred essentially the same thing from it, so far from jumping to wild conclusions, perhaps you should consider how you word your posts ;) (unless your intention is deliberately to mislead, in which case you are TDW.......)

Geezer