On the point of games.

To be fair, some of the Nokia N-Gage games were pretty good :)
But it was the way that Nokia delivered the service that killed it off IMO

The best game i have used on my android phone has been Angry Birds, and that is a port of the I-phone one anyway.

The 2 statements surely contradict themselves.
Apples marketting REVOLVES around apps.

Partially yes, but the majority of people who buy iPhones don't necessarily buy it for the apps, but because it is nice and shiney, and their mate has one.

I bought it because I knew it would irritate the hell out of Snazy and make me more attractive to girls :Suspiciou

A strange cult like attitude amongst the acolytes who work in the apple stores?

People buy it because it is awesome :thumb:

But instead it irritates girls and made you more attractive to me! :norty:

Im still sticking with apps. Although one of the guys in the office who just bought an HTC Wildfire says he has no interest in apps. Which leaves me wondering "why a smartphone then". But I guess because you have a phone that CAN do something, does not mean you WANT to do that with it.

I worry at your first statement :eek:

Regarding the mate and his HTC. Beggars the question ..why ??

A smartphone is just that. Filled with stuff that can do things like browse the web, handle your email, let you communicate other than by telephone and allow you access via apps to useful stuff.

Most people who dont want a smartphone give the above reasons as exactly why they dont. They just want a phone and maybe SMS.

It doesnt worry you really does it lol :p

He doesnt use email on it, use the net, infact nothing but occasional texts, and receives a few calls. Nothing wrong with having the latest I guess, but I would rather have a more practical phone for that.

Mmm, c'mon Jack, we know you're an Apple fanboy, but please stick to reality! Symbian is still the biggest seller in the world, and Android phones are outselling iPhone now, so who exactly are these people who cannot compete? ;)

Geezer

The only reason that is because android
Is on so many phones ;)

If iOS was that good, it would outsell all the others anyway ;)

Geezer

this irritates me.... not you Geezer, this statement comes from loads of people/tech forums, etc

1) there a numerous devices that use android, so it's entirely unsurprising they're overtaking iOS numbers.

2) Android is free for hardware manufacturers and a low and finite development cost to integrate this OS - of course they're going to use it! See point 1.

Is anyone stopping Apple from doing the same?

Only Apple themselves ;)

Geezer

No because it'll end up on crap phones like moto dext and people will brand the phone along with apple as crap.

Quite right antc

a good example is that Google stated Android is not for tablets. Well, guess what OS they're shoe horning into the new tablets?

the new android software will be suitable for tablets and is only a few months away (3.0) I would be interested in what will be different from 2.2, I doubt it will be much.

Yes android is free but I don't think that really makes any difference, operating systems for phones used to be licensed from people like Symbian for only a few pounds per phone (less than £5 if I remember right) on a £400 to £600 phone is nothing, companies are using Android because its the best phone operating system for phones and is being developed the fastest.

also the fact it's the only decent os for smart phones that's available so they don't really have a choice, if they had the option for iOS they'd take that over android

Who makes the iPhone SO successful?
 

The sheep in reality buying in to the hype.

For me it's Jay Freeman and co! :thumb:

And there goes the sensible question off into cyberspace, consumed by yet another Appletastic arguement lol.

Personally, to get involved in this new arguement, I dont see much of a difference between Android and iOS. For day to day use, they are both functional, and thats all I need.
It is nice however to see how far Android has come in such a short time, especially for a free OS. And personally, im glad its available on a variety of handsets, as what suits one, does not suit all.

I've had my iPhone 3g for about 2 years now and the main reasons I like it are:

1. It just works nicely

2. It does email / web / sms really well

Bad points:

Battery is terrible, it has to be charged every day or it will die. Not good for a modern phone. I also have a £10 Nokia from Tesco and that holds its charge for about 2 weeks with constant use.

I've had my iPhone 3g for about 2 years now and the main reasons I like it are:

1. It just works nicely

2. It does email / web / sms really well

Bad points:

Battery is terrible, it has to be charged every day or it will die. Not good for a modern phone. I also have a £10 Nokia from Tesco and that holds its charge for about 2 weeks with constant use.

Cool :thumb:
Main reasons for liking a phone there, not often you see that in a thread these days lol.

Are you much of an app person at all?

PS your reasons are pretty much the reason I like my choice of phone too. Its great to agree about something with people using a different phone on a phone thread :D

Edited for accuracy ;)

Geezer

heres your answer snazy, there is something about apple products, maybe a mysterious hypnotic screensaver app that runs the first time you turn it on that will brainwash you to fight tooth and nail that iOS is the best and better than everything else.

I recently purchased an ipad because i wanted a new gadget but I can pretty much guarantee that as soon as HTC or similar being out a good android version (which will probably be 6 months away) then I will dump the ipad.

iOS is far too restrictive, i can't even change my email received tone on my ipad and push email does not work unless i open and refresh the email app!


but the ipad/iphone is very pretty and sparkly and thats why everyone buys them ;)

think you'll find it's a fact :D why you ask ? because jack said so :lol1:

IMO iOS is better then then android well comparing to my missus galaxy s :thumb:

:lol: :lol: :lol:
I find it hard not to do the norm and agree totally with the opening statement. But I shall refrain.

I have to agree with the comments on the tones and stuff, and am looking forwards to the Tab, and am hoping we get the same deal as the Spanish with the free keyboard dock :D

Im a pretty light user of my iPad I have to say, and only have a few apps that I use regularly, but it still throws up some irritations.

- I own an iPod, therefore I am connected to iTunes for ease/simplicity

- My wife migrated to the iPhone from a BB and I had to set it all up, migrate calendars, contacts and the rest, the iPhone was a breeze to use (compared to what I know).

- My boy has an iPod Touch and regularly wants to spend a fiver to get some more apps (games), on my Apple account. (Which you can download again to any iPhone / Touch registered to that account, so I only have to pay once).

- My previous phone was a (work paid) standard Nokia and I was bored of it.

Because of the above I got the new iPhone. I love how it integrates all I want/wanted in one device. All it needs is to be waterproof :p

I am an ex Apple iPhone hater but recently tried the iPhone 4 for a while and found I really liked it and found it so damn intuitive I just had to have one. I already have iPods so iTunes felt natural and easy to use and there really is a useful App for almost anything! I kept the iPhone 4 alongside my Desire for a while until I was sure I wanted to keep the iPhone for good, then moved the desire on for a tidy profit using good old eBay.

Only problems I find are:
1) No way to easily archive old text messages.
2) Battery life is quite poor. (But acceptable for such a thin device.)
3) "Probably" very poor waterproofing.

That said, I use the web and various office and PDF docs a LOT on my phones and most phones fall massively short here when compared to the iPhone 4. Also, its screen resolution really is amazing! The camera is about as good as they really get at the moment and its video editing capability is an added bonus.

Here is one I made on the iPhone 4 only yesterday as a test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Fgf8ij1Xt0