Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9511834)
Ive been gutting one of the rooms in the house, the plaster doesn`t look the best. Apparently when these house were originally plastered it was approx 40-50 years ago where they used a mix that was 5 parts sand so the original plaster is like powder in places. Its been skimmed over in the past which was a fair while ago but their are plenty of cracks and loose plaster in places.
The room size is approx 4m x 4m with a chimney breast thats central, i`m going to get a few quotes so what i`m after is a ball part figure to do a full re-plaster of a room this size, i`ll knock the old stuff of myself. Its just so i have a figure to use against the quotes as i wouldn`t have a clue of the cost myself. |
Just one quick question
Originally the plasterer quoted £500 which was for dot and dab, after thinking about it i prefered the other option of rendering the brickwork with cement then a skim after. Should he still be charging £500, is it cheaper to render the brickwork in cement then a skim after than dot and dab with plasterboard then a skim. Its just i have no idea of material costs, ive done all the knocking off of the plaster and tomorow i`ll be mixing the cement for him in a mixer. |
I can't imagine there being a lot in it with the materials either way. So the biggest cost factor is how long he will take and how much he wants a day.
I pay my plasterer £150 a day and I'd say he would charge me a day and a half for that job. |
Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)
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Originally Posted by cookstar
(Post 9515991)
Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)
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Originally Posted by cookstar
(Post 9515644)
Do you think the reason for this is a lasting quality build, or cost?
For speed and it makes for a warmer home. I can't see anyone coming in and rendering all the walls for the same price as dot and dab, although the material costs will be cheaper labour hours will be longer It would be impossible to do it in one day plus they may have to leave the room a little longer for drying out time on the render as I presume skiming a rendered wall the next day will have an extremely slow set time |
Originally Posted by cookstar
(Post 9515991)
Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)
You do realise dictating to tradesmen may mean he has a room stripped of plaster but no one to do it as I'm very petty that way work wise and so are virtually all the other trades I know! |
What the frick is 'dot and dab'??
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
(Post 9516160)
What the frick is 'dot and dab'??
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/PL...IREcT_BOND.htm Tut, bloody amateur builders.....know nothing....:rolleyes: :) |
Sticking a plasterboard on the brickwork using drywall adhesive
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Originally Posted by mr_impreza
(Post 9516180)
http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wPl...fGIIgeYdZH8Hye |
Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9515975)
Just one quick question
Originally the plasterer quoted £500 which was for dot and dab, after thinking about it i prefered the other option of rendering the brickwork with cement then a skim after. Should he still be charging £500, is it cheaper to render the brickwork in cement then a skim after than dot and dab with plasterboard then a skim. Its just i have no idea of material costs, ive done all the knocking off of the plaster and tomorow i`ll be mixing the cement for him in a mixer. |
Originally Posted by zip106
(Post 9516173)
Here ya go..
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/PL...IREcT_BOND.htm Tut, bloody amateur builders.....know nothing....:rolleyes: :) Thanks. That looks like a cheap way to do it, and the fact that somebody mentioned its how all new builds are made speaks volumes about new builds. Surely sand and cement then skimmed is the proper way to do it? That's what they did when i had my extension built. ps please note I know nothing about building:lol1: |
A quick question.
From the pics on the other page the plaster has now rendered the bare walls in cement upto the bottom area of plaster that was ok, he`s keyed the cement etc. From making conversation i just said to him that i take it all you have left to do is to PVA all the walls and then skim them, he said that you don`t need to PVA the cement render just the old plaster at the bottom. Is that true ? |
Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9518582)
A quick question.
From the pics on the other page the plaster has now rendered the bare walls in cement upto the bottom area of plaster that was ok, he`s keyed the cement etc. From making conversation i just said to him that i take it all you have left to do is to PVA all the walls and then skim them, he said that you don`t need to PVA the cement render just the old plaster at the bottom. Is that true ? |
£200
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Originally Posted by Jamie
(Post 9519137)
£200
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He finished plastering earlier today, their aint much to look at as its just plaster lol but here are a few pics, may as well show before and after. He seems to have done a good job especially on the chimney breast which was really bumpy and uneven before i knocked the plaster off, its one of them where time will tell as to how good the job is.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster1.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster2.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster3.jpg |
Originally Posted by Dingdongler
(Post 9519592)
You'd get sh1te work for that sort of money. Unless you intend to gobble the builder:Suspiciou:Suspiciou
Looks good btw rob :) |
Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9521056)
He finished plastering earlier today, their aint much to look at as its just plaster lol but here are a few pics, may as well show before and after. He seems to have done a good job especially on the chimney breast which was really bumpy and uneven before i knocked the plaster off, its one of them where time will tell as to how good the job is.
http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster1.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster2.jpg http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster3.jpg |
Left handed how do you work that out ? looks right handed to me :)
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Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ? Also what do you need to do to prep it before painting, i read on google that your first coat of paint should be watered down.. Is that true ?
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Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9523686)
Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ? Also what do you need to do to prep it before painting, i read on google that your first coat of paint should be watered down.. Is that true ?
use cheap watered down paint for first coat or a latex paint. |
Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99
(Post 9523686)
Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ??
Pmsl, there should not be any raised bits or the need for sandpaper on newly plastered walls. If you need to use sandpaper the plastering is definately a poor job and I would give him a call ;) |
Originally Posted by stevebt
(Post 9524172)
Pmsl, there should not be any raised bits or the need for sandpaper on newly plastered walls. If you need to use sandpaper the plastering is definately a poor job and I would give him a call ;)
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The bumps will be smll blebs in the plaster where it had no suction due to the render and splash marks should of been hard troweled out. Seriously you should not have to do anything to new plaster apart from add paint! If you need to sand something its a poor job.
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Originally Posted by stevebt
(Post 9524455)
The bumps will be smll blebs in the plaster where it had no suction due to the render and splash marks should of been hard troweled out. Seriously you should not have to do anything to new plaster apart from add paint! If you need to sand something its a poor job.
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that is not 4m x 4m no way its 2.7 square max...
most desent plasterers take at least 2 days if doing ceiling too for a 4x4m room. and 500 quid is nothing for a 4x4m area really mate good luck. Do what i did and teach yourself if you dot and dab its easy. |
Originally Posted by wrx9181
(Post 9524555)
most desent plasterers take at least 2 days if doing ceiling too for a 4x4m room.
. I can do half a 3 bedroomed house in that time and thats from bare brickwork. Dragging a room out for 2 days doesn't mean they are any good ;) |
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