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Jamie 26 July 2010 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9511834)
Ive been gutting one of the rooms in the house, the plaster doesn`t look the best. Apparently when these house were originally plastered it was approx 40-50 years ago where they used a mix that was 5 parts sand so the original plaster is like powder in places. Its been skimmed over in the past which was a fair while ago but their are plenty of cracks and loose plaster in places.

The room size is approx 4m x 4m with a chimney breast thats central, i`m going to get a few quotes so what i`m after is a ball part figure to do a full re-plaster of a room this size, i`ll knock the old stuff of myself. Its just so i have a figure to use against the quotes as i wouldn`t have a clue of the cost myself.

£300

Rob_Impreza99 26 July 2010 09:45 PM

Just one quick question

Originally the plasterer quoted £500 which was for dot and dab, after thinking about it i prefered the other option of rendering the brickwork with cement then a skim after.

Should he still be charging £500, is it cheaper to render the brickwork in cement then a skim after than dot and dab with plasterboard then a skim. Its just i have no idea of material costs, ive done all the knocking off of the plaster and tomorow i`ll be mixing the cement for him in a mixer.

cookstar 26 July 2010 09:49 PM

I can't imagine there being a lot in it with the materials either way. So the biggest cost factor is how long he will take and how much he wants a day.

I pay my plasterer £150 a day and I'd say he would charge me a day and a half for that job.

cookstar 26 July 2010 09:52 PM

Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)

Rob_Impreza99 26 July 2010 10:03 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 9515991)
Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)

It includes skimming the ceiling.

stevebt 26 July 2010 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 9515644)
Do you think the reason for this is a lasting quality build, or cost?


For speed and it makes for a warmer home. I can't see anyone coming in and rendering all the walls for the same price as dot and dab, although the material costs will be cheaper labour hours will be longer It would be impossible to do it in one day plus they may have to leave the room a little longer for drying out time on the render as I presume skiming a rendered wall the next day will have an extremely slow set time

stevebt 26 July 2010 11:02 PM


Originally Posted by cookstar (Post 9515991)
Or just tell him £500 but you want the ceiling done as well. :)


You do realise dictating to tradesmen may mean he has a room stripped of plaster but no one to do it as I'm very petty that way work wise and so are virtually all the other trades I know!

Dingdongler 26 July 2010 11:03 PM

What the frick is 'dot and dab'??

zip106 26 July 2010 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 9516160)
What the frick is 'dot and dab'??

Here ya go..
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/PL...IREcT_BOND.htm

Tut, bloody amateur builders.....know nothing....:rolleyes:
:)

stevebt 26 July 2010 11:09 PM

Sticking a plasterboard on the brickwork using drywall adhesive

Will 26 July 2010 11:12 PM

thi is dot













http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_branning.jpg



dont know who dab is sorry :D

zip106 26 July 2010 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by mr_impreza (Post 9516180)
thi is dot













http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...n_branning.jpg



dont know who dab is worry :D

This is dab.

http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wPl...fGIIgeYdZH8Hye

alanbell 27 July 2010 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9515975)
Just one quick question

Originally the plasterer quoted £500 which was for dot and dab, after thinking about it i prefered the other option of rendering the brickwork with cement then a skim after.

Should he still be charging £500, is it cheaper to render the brickwork in cement then a skim after than dot and dab with plasterboard then a skim. Its just i have no idea of material costs, ive done all the knocking off of the plaster and tomorow i`ll be mixing the cement for him in a mixer.

£500 should be fine, first do the ceiling so he ties it in (skrim) then render walls, pva all old plaster, skim full room tomorrow.:thumb:

Dingdongler 27 July 2010 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by zip106 (Post 9516173)
Here ya go..
http://www.ultimatehandyman.co.uk/PL...IREcT_BOND.htm

Tut, bloody amateur builders.....know nothing....:rolleyes:
:)


Thanks. That looks like a cheap way to do it, and the fact that somebody mentioned its how all new builds are made speaks volumes about new builds.

Surely sand and cement then skimmed is the proper way to do it? That's what they did when i had my extension built.

ps please note I know nothing about building:lol1:

Rob_Impreza99 28 July 2010 01:30 PM

A quick question.

From the pics on the other page the plaster has now rendered the bare walls in cement upto the bottom area of plaster that was ok, he`s keyed the cement etc.

From making conversation i just said to him that i take it all you have left to do is to PVA all the walls and then skim them, he said that you don`t need to PVA the cement render just the old plaster at the bottom. Is that true ?

alanbell 28 July 2010 02:31 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9518582)
A quick question.

From the pics on the other page the plaster has now rendered the bare walls in cement upto the bottom area of plaster that was ok, he`s keyed the cement etc.

From making conversation i just said to him that i take it all you have left to do is to PVA all the walls and then skim them, he said that you don`t need to PVA the cement render just the old plaster at the bottom. Is that true ?

True :D if its skimed soon ish ;)

Jamie 28 July 2010 07:27 PM

£200

Dingdongler 28 July 2010 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 9519137)
£200

You'd get sh1te work for that sort of money. Unless you intend to gobble the builder:Suspiciou:Suspiciou

Rob_Impreza99 29 July 2010 08:28 PM

He finished plastering earlier today, their aint much to look at as its just plaster lol but here are a few pics, may as well show before and after. He seems to have done a good job especially on the chimney breast which was really bumpy and uneven before i knocked the plaster off, its one of them where time will tell as to how good the job is.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster3.jpg

Jamie 29 July 2010 08:36 PM


Originally Posted by Dingdongler (Post 9519592)
You'd get sh1te work for that sort of money. Unless you intend to gobble the builder:Suspiciou:Suspiciou

I would charge £200 per wall you numptie :brickwall

Looks good btw rob :)

alanbell 29 July 2010 09:18 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9521056)
He finished plastering earlier today, their aint much to look at as its just plaster lol but here are a few pics, may as well show before and after. He seems to have done a good job especially on the chimney breast which was really bumpy and uneven before i knocked the plaster off, its one of them where time will tell as to how good the job is.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster1.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster2.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a2...a/Plaster3.jpg

Looks very good, :) for a left handed plasterer :D :thumb:

Jamie 29 July 2010 09:35 PM

Left handed how do you work that out ? looks right handed to me :)

Rob_Impreza99 31 July 2010 11:47 AM

Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ? Also what do you need to do to prep it before painting, i read on google that your first coat of paint should be watered down.. Is that true ?

alanbell 31 July 2010 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9523686)
Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ? Also what do you need to do to prep it before painting, i read on google that your first coat of paint should be watered down.. Is that true ?

if you have raised bits get the plasterer back :nono:

use cheap watered down paint for first coat or a latex paint.

stevebt 31 July 2010 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Rob_Impreza99 (Post 9523686)
Whats the best type of sandpaper to use on fresh plaster for lightly rubbing out any tiny raised bits ??


Pmsl, there should not be any raised bits or the need for sandpaper on newly plastered walls. If you need to use sandpaper the plastering is definately a poor job and I would give him a call ;)

Rob_Impreza99 31 July 2010 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 9524172)
Pmsl, there should not be any raised bits or the need for sandpaper on newly plastered walls. If you need to use sandpaper the plastering is definately a poor job and I would give him a call ;)

They are not raised bits as in bumps and an uneven wall, their are a couple of very tiny bits like a spill or splash mark that i want to sand out as they would show up in the paint finish.

stevebt 31 July 2010 09:08 PM

The bumps will be smll blebs in the plaster where it had no suction due to the render and splash marks should of been hard troweled out. Seriously you should not have to do anything to new plaster apart from add paint! If you need to sand something its a poor job.

alanbell 31 July 2010 10:09 PM


Originally Posted by stevebt (Post 9524455)
The bumps will be smll blebs in the plaster where it had no suction due to the render and splash marks should of been hard troweled out. Seriously you should not have to do anything to new plaster apart from add paint! If you need to sand something its a poor job.

agree :

wrx9181 31 July 2010 10:21 PM

that is not 4m x 4m no way its 2.7 square max...
most desent plasterers take at least 2 days if doing ceiling too for a 4x4m room.
and 500 quid is nothing for a 4x4m area really mate good luck.
Do what i did and teach yourself if you dot and dab its easy.

stevebt 31 July 2010 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by wrx9181 (Post 9524555)
most desent plasterers take at least 2 days if doing ceiling too for a 4x4m room.
.


I can do half a 3 bedroomed house in that time and thats from bare brickwork. Dragging a room out for 2 days doesn't mean they are any good ;)


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