One driver is as guilty as the other in a circumstance like that TBH, all it takes is two people to have a race, unfortunately this one ended "badly " for one and "very badly" for the other, like I said trackdays are the place to enjoy cars like ours at least if we get it wrong and hit something hard there are medics at hand to deal with it

If it's late at night and quite on a nice duel carriage way then mission to seek and destroy

I recall another one a year or few ago in which a pair of oiks were giving it some on an urban dual carriageway when one lost it, mounted a kerb and offed the driver of another car. Ah, here we are:

BBC News - Two guilty over taxi driver death in Swansea

See above. Only one of those idiots was driving the car that killed the taxi driver but both have been found guilty of causing death by dangerous driving. The implication is that the behaviour of the pair of them caused the accident, or, looking at it the other way round, if one tw*t hadn't been there, the other one probably wouldn't have been driving dangerously.

No, because if your distraction was sufficient to cause you to crash your car then you were clearly driving without due care and attention, or worse.

If, to continue the motorbike analogy, your driving would be considered dangerous on its own, then you'd get charged with dangerous driving which can itself carry a custodial sentence. If your driving influenced the motorcyclist's, then you'd potentially be volunteering for "Causing death by...", depending on the specific circumstances.

So wot would u do if u pulled up to some lights and a evo pulled up besides u say perhaps? wot would u do???

Exactly the same as I'd have planned on doing before the Evo pulled up alongside me one would imagine. Hardly difficult. If the other driver floors it and p*sses off into the distance that's entirely his lookout.

Racing on the public highway is the preserve of the idiot. Note that both of the pair above will be going down, and with good reason.

i 100% agree with u all the way, not worth the risk but sumtimes my right foot gets a lil itchy, lol...

As has already been said, if you want to scratch that sort of itch the place to do it is where there's space for you to get it wrong without taking out a member of the public, and no speed limits.

That accident shows how much damage a pimply oik in a 106 can do. How many seconds do you think it'll take for you and the notional Evo driver to be in licence-losing territory, let alone anything else? If you're concentrating on trying to stay in front of him, are you going to be paying as much attention as you should be to the road, what else is on it (and about to enter it) and what you need to be doing to stay safely on it, let alone whether there's a copper or speed enforcement van keeping an eye?

I get more enjoyment, watching people rag it off at the lights expecting me to do the same. All I do is just sit there laughing! ;)

Splitpin I do understand what your saying and I agree but can't help the fact that trackdays are so expensive. So every time I fancy a little burst I should pay 200quid to go on a track.

For the record I always stay within the limits during busy hours and on normal residential roads, the beast is only leashed on duel carrige ways and empty motorways late at night.

Mus

My favoured tactic is too short-shift into second and then floor it up to the limit.....

dunx

P.S. Trackdays are so much more fun.

i dont care who you are or what age you are everyone has at some point has had a play on a public road and exceeded the speed limit and anyone who says they havent is a liar so calling people out for doing it now as if you havent is just hypocritical. im not saying it is right or that there isnt a bit of common sense needed when choosing when to put your foot down a bit on a road but we were all young once and why do we own scoobys if the only time you put your foot down is on a track? i know my drive to work would be a lot less fun and a lot longer in a corsa or something **** like that. but thats just my opinion im sure someone claiming to be prim and proper will disagree with me

Well said zippy.

I honestly believe that scooby drivers are some of the most careful drivers around, during normal driving hours.
We all spend lots of money on our cars and a lot in maintaining them and keeping them running. The last thing we would want is to bump into the back of someone else during rush hour.

However as zippy said, why would you own a performance car if you never put your foot down?

I'm not even saying you have exceed 70mph on a motorway. But all of us have pulled off from somewhere a lot quicker than we should have.

Afterall, are some of you saying you have hardly ever used your turbo? Please.

Of course not. As has already been said, what you do on an out of town road you can see to be clear of other road users and things you can damage is one thing. At least then whatever happens to you is your own responsibility.

The primary issue here is the word "racing" in your thread title. Implicit in that is the involvement of at least two cars as well as the concept of "winning".

Getting involved with someone else takes some of your attention away from driving the car and also makes judgement of speed a relative one involving the other car rather than simply a matter of your own judgement. You won't want to slow down if the other guy doesn't - even if he's taking too much speed into a corner and, on your own, you'd have braked.

That's no doubt part of the reason why the driver of the car in the motorbike incident went down, and why both of the drivers in the taxi driver death will be spending some time in choky, despite only one of them actually hitting the victim's car. The driving of one was clearly influencing the other.

The idea that you can "win" a "race" on the road might have some cachet in Fast and Furious films, but in reality you'll never know whether the other driver simply stopped trying. And, of course, if you get involved with someone who either has more bottle/less intelligence/cares less about their licence/a faster car than you, you'll get "beat", which might be annoying.

every1sgottablue1 makes a very good point.

I save it for track days.

Of course i have gone faster than i should have done.... but the OP was talking about street racing.... and i don't do that.

he wasnt talking about full blown street racing in the o,p at all he was just saying about a little play away from some traffic lights.

He wasnt even asking that. He asked if there was an unwritten rule thats Scoobs dont race eachother? Typically escalating into a thread like this, still interesting to read though.

A little play away from the lights is as good as street racing TBH, what happens when both cars hit the speed limit which does not take very long in cars like ours do they both slow down to stay within the limit? do they feck they keep going till one backs off or runs out of road, if you want to drag against other cars try a drag strip

^ As above.

I've had a little blast off the lights,i suppose we all have at some time. BUT! as soon as the speed limit is reached it's time to back off. We are lucky around here,most of the traffic lights around town are in 50 or 60mph zones. As for street racing i would rather spend £100 or so on a trackday and know my liscence will be safe.

ie racing.

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A little play away from the lights is as good as street racing TBH, what happens when both cars hit the speed limit which does not take very long in cars like ours do they both slow down to stay within the limit? do they feck they keep going till one backs off or runs out of road, if you want to drag against other cars try a drag strip
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I used to think the sooner all of the classics were off the road the better, but then realised the knobs and chavs will just sticker up the bug/blob eyes and move into them next, unfortunately Subaru are a long way off from shaking off the chav tag!

so what your saying then is that first off all classic owners are chavs and second that classics are the only scoobys that race or play around on the roads and at traffic lights? dont think so mate do you!:wonder::cuckoo:

Alot of them do tend to be driven by morons, yes that is what I'm saying

Wow just read this thread with my eyes wide open... judging by some of the comments made here, it seems like as soon as someone pulls away sharpish next to some one in a quick car (i.e. having a bit of fun) then it automatically descends into a full blown drag strip race, with rev limiters bouncing and neither person reluctant to give in... sounds like some of you have been watching too much fast and the furious. Don't get me wrong there will be some people that drive like complete w@nkers - and some of those will own scoobies too, but reading this, you'd think this was a bulletin board for saga holidays.. Everyone has some fun on the roads from time to time (and not just at 2am on a carriageway) - some more than others - You don't have to be speeding or driving like a lunatic to enjoy yourself even with other cars.

FFS talkabout nanny state !

so if thats the case then how come jap performance parts have so many smashed up stickered up chavvy new ages in there yard?:Suspiciou

Maybe cause they raced away from sets of traffic lights, how the fcuk do I know, do you think I'm Mystic Meg or someone? :idea:

BTW you won't be winning the lottery on Saturday so don't waste your money putting on a ticket :lol1:

Under ground street racing has been happening for years weather it's well organised events with walkie talkies or some chavs with there corsas in a tesco car park it will never stop unless things like trackdays or days out on the strip become cheaper. On the other side of the coin some just love the thrill

but you just said new age drivers dont do that sort of thing its reserved purely for chavvy classic drivers which is what my point against you was in the first place:brickwall

If people what to have a play on the roads then it's up to them.

Imagine this though..... you're at the traffic lights and someone pulls up to you in a snotty Corsa, and floor it once the lights turn green.

Most of us would think ''what a knob''.

Now imagine how you look when you floor it away from the lights in your Impreza. Guess what others think of you?

Comparing cars at traffic lights up to the speed limit is in my opinion a long way from street racing, its interesting to see performance of other cars in a real world environment, i would never do a full bore start at the lights as i don’t really care about winning if that’s the correct word to use.

i agree with baldfox ou don't have to be speeding or driving like a lunatic to enjoy yourself even with other cars.

Racing on A roads will get ya killed:eek2::nopity: