I think this probably sums up an Audi driver's perception of a car perfectly.

:D

Now how can i make my journey to work more exciting :rolleyes:

Pushing you along?
For how long?

Sounds like you were sitting in the outside lane hogging it and holding him up TBF, he probably just wanted to get somewhere faster then you.

No need to "show him whos boss" :wonder:

In my business there is a saying. When you are in a hole, put the spade down!! ;)

Funny folk should mention audi's driving like they do and agreed it is usually the smaller models the rs4 etc boys leave me alone, though i did have a 3.0tdi nail it past when he went to overtake, paranoid that i was going to put my foot down maybe?

Meh i just leave them get on with it even if it means my driving slower, i have no time for such shenanigans.

The 1 series is a LOT lower rent than the 5/6/7 series inside. I had a top line M Sported 120d (courtesy car) and the interior was a mix of fake looking leather, flock wallpaper and nasty plastics. Still better than many but don't judge BMWs by a 1er.

I don't kiss BMWs ar5e - they make some cr4p cars, they charge silly money for "options" such as a steering wheel (and indicators), most of the drivers are muppets and they BS about mpg but I like the one I have.

Not in the trade, just driven many cars - guess that's what happens when you are an enthusiast?

Audis are basically made (apart from top end models) for those that want to look a bit flash but don't really push their cars. Up to 80% they are fine. Push them harder and they run out of ideas. They have become style over substance using cars like the RS4 and R8 to make lesser Audi owners think they are in something special. If you want quality over dynamics, get a Passat or an Octavia/Superb. If you want to pretend you are in an RS4 when you actually have a 140bhp engine in a 1.6 tonne car, get an S-Line A4 2.0TDI with all the trimmings. And get burnt off by base spec Focuses and Golfs in your near £30k car...

unless you are in the business of digging holes for a living

Which many are - gravediggers, ground workers, etc, etc!

Must.....


Resist....


;) :D

I've been a VAG man for 8 years for my work car and whenever the time comes to buy the next new car, I always look into the options of VW (Passat) and the garage next door's Audi (A4).

However, I can never justify the extra expense of buying a pretty basic A4. For less money I can always get a high-spec Passat estate, which offers far more room for my growing family as well as for shifting stuff. OK it's no thrill-a-minute motoring (I always have something else tucked away in the garage for that ;)), but then again nor is a lowly A4. The Passat just does its job and isn't trying to be anything that it's not. Why pay more and get less?

The real performance Audis are presumably a breed-apart, but the other 90-odd % on our roads are nowt special IMO.

Turbo - agree x 10000

I always smile when I see an R36 estate (not often) too - stealth power!

Yes but they are a nice place to be. We have an A6 Avant that does the school run, shopping and family holidays, does everything it needs to. I did explain to my wife that we could have got a slightly younger or lower miles passat but we drove both and she really preferred the interior and the Bose stereo etc. She is in it 90% of the time and isn't the type to demand more feedback throught the steering at 9/10ths, as are I assume a vast majoity of the non RS market.

And for balance I'm sure Trout would have passed us trundling along the motorway at an indicated 85 :)

Why would anyone pretend they are in an RS4?
For some one into cars you have failed to notice the vast difference between an Sline car and a full blown rs.
Also not everyone is looking for races with Focuses and Golfs which is obviously what floats your boat.

Which is fine but the marketing and owners seem to think even a bog standard A3 is some kind of uber refined rocket that rules the road.

If more owners realised that they were simply driving an expensive Golf/Octavia with a bodykit and possibly a loud stereo then maybe there wouldn't be so many agreeing that at the moment, the typical Audi driver is a total ar5e. If you want a mile munching cruiser with a FWD few toys then get a Focus/Mondeo Astra/Insignia. If you MUST have a badge then get a Volvo. Apart from the top end fast models, they just don't do anything other much cheapers cars can't do (and some do better) except swallow their own hype.

And lets face it exactly the same can be said for BMW !

Richard

To be fair, the A6 Avant is a larger car than even the Passat Estate, so the new car price premium (about 5.5k for a similar-engined standard 140bhp diesel model) over and above the Passat Estate for what is a premium executive car is to be expected. It's the A4 that gets my goat: in Avant form and with the above engine, it's about 4-5k more expensive than the larger Passat Estate. As stated in my previous post: you pay more and get less, so why not just save up another grand or so and get the A6?

Ermmm - do you know anything about cars?

Same except:

They are all RWD (except some AWD) not FWD
They don't use their chassis/engine platforms for 3 other brands.
They are all well balanced.
They have steering feedback.
The brakes aren't snatchy.

So yes, exactly the same... :rolleyes::nono::lol1::lol1:

Mmmmm R36 estate :)
not seen one of them:D

Arrg wont let me answer to Matteboy ! Ah will now

Well its obvious to me (but clearly not to you) I was talking about markting - maybe you missed that ?
Deliberate or on purpose ?

And yes I think I do know a bit about cars thanks - 15 years of buying and selling has given me the idea of which are fwd, rwd, awd etc, their mechanics and what sells !
I also have the ability to look objectively at manufactors - I cant think of one manufactor that makes all good cars - can you ?

Richard

Richard - nor can I.

I can think of lots of models that are good within a brand but not one that makes nothing but great cars (well maybe some supercar brands...).

The X3 is cack, the X5 is so so, the X6 is silly, the four pot 3 and 5 series are a bit iffy, etc.

I read your post again and I do actually agree (thought you were just talking about the actual cars themselves) to some extent - BMWs "joy" thing makes me cringe and they BS about mpg all the time and make it sound like every BMW driver is some sort of demi god. Oh dear...

And just a small wee point - it's spelt "manufacturer" ;)

Alan - I've seen four. Very cool indeed.

lol forgot about the supercar brands ! Agree with you on some of the comments, especially on the BMW "joy" of driving, think the joy went out of (the majority of) driving years ago - but then I'm getting older and grumpier every year !

re spelling see my Location

Richard

Richard - I missed that bit!

Try Cornwall off season - some superb driving roads all over the place; and not a single motorway!

Then try Cornwall in the middle of the season - hateful!

I'm sure a driver of a £50k Audi or BMW is not shamed when you scream past in your bugeye. :lol1:

I would have to agree that the majority of times when i'm cut up i tend to see those little rings in a line pretty regularly, nothing to do with the performance of the car as such, just the arseh0le driving it and insisting that i know it was them.

I can agree with the practicality of a car and that is fine. However I do think that a car can be a joy to drive and involving at 3/10ths as much as 9/10ths. These are of course the very best cars to own and a rare thing indeed.

Maybe the classic Scoob, or an Elise. Cars like this are a class apart.

IMHO all Audis I have driven have been numb at either 3, 9 or 10/10ths so they just wouldn't feature on my desireable list.

As for 85. Typical Audi driver you would have passed me as I was doing 80 ;) :p

If you go over 80 does it invalid the OPC, lol

Yes, the A6 is pretty numb to drive at any tenth you care to choose, but still a nice place to be all the same. And TBH as soon as my wife liked it I made sure we bought it ASAP, it had taken me months to find any kind of family car she liked!!

Nope !

I was no.4 in the "queue" and once they all meandered out the way I followed....

I'm quite a calm old fella, but having "moby dick" climbing into my boot made me all uncomfortable...

dunx

Well I like my Audi, I think it goes well, handles well enough and is a nice place to sit so :p

yep plus one from me, and mine is Silver, and it's got Black leather interior and sports trim and diesel to boot -- so there :hjtwofing

now all of you fvck off back to your car mags and leave us alone

hmm -
I wouldn't say basically made - i don't have any rattles/ creaks/ bits falling off

style over substance - would you buy an ugly looking car just because it was relable?

why would anyone pretend they were in a RS4 if they were driving a TDi?

i'd prefer to drive a rattle/ creak free comfy S-Line which looks sporty/ classy to a base spec Focus or Golf (had higher spec versions those previously and didn't like them) and it wouldn't bother me getting "burnt off?" , if i felt so inadequate i'd get it remapped :)