Originally Posted by Leslie
(Post 9101163)
With the handling of modern racing cars, if they are fairly close in that department most F1 drivers will be able to get similar cornering performance from them. Its is only if you have a major advantage such as the double diffuser that you can leave the others for dead.
When you put a driver of Hamilton's ability into a car of similar cornering performance to the others, if he pulls out an advantage, that is down to the man himself. He is good enough to do that. If your car is below the others in performance in F1, it is virtually impossible to make it up as they used to be able to do years ago with superior driving ability. Les |
Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 9101207)
In other words it's boring...
I have never and will never watch a game a football. Bores me to tears. I'd rather watch a game of rugby than football and even then I don't have much choice - down the pub, live in wales etc. |
Mark Cavendish should have won,
He won 6 stages of the tour de france, won the Milan-San Remo at his 1st attempt. Then again cycling is not a main stream sport so he was never going to win. |
Originally Posted by wrx-ian
(Post 9101228)
Mark Cavendish should have won,
He won 6 stages of the tour de france, won the Milan-San Remo at his 1st attempt. Then again cycling is not a main stream sport so he was never going to win. |
As a petrolhead I'd liked to have seen Brawn or Button pick up something. All the same its been a fairy tale year so I'm not complaining.
I can't abide football either, so forgive my ignorance if I'm missing something, but shouldn't the winner really have had some international success? ;) |
Originally Posted by EddScott
(Post 9101221)
Its boring to someone that doesn't like motorsport - its boring to those that do like motorsport but they still watch it because its considered the pinacle of motorsport for good or bad.
I have never and will never watch a game a football. Bores me to tears. I'd rather watch a game of rugby than football and even then I don't have much choice - down the pub, live in wales etc. |
Originally Posted by wrx-ian
(Post 9101228)
Mark Cavendish should have won,
He won 6 stages of the tour de france, won the Milan-San Remo at his 1st attempt. Then again cycling is not a main stream sport so he was never going to win. Hardly Mr Personality is he? Come to think of it nor is Giggs. I just checked his current world ranking as a player. He stands at #171. Last time I looked, Button was at #1. Sure Giggs had a reasonable season (and used to own a 22B), but if that wasn't an extra "life-time achievement" award, then I'm Tiger Woods. :D |
Originally Posted by wrx-ian
(Post 9101228)
Mark Cavendish should have won,
He won 6 stages of the tour de france, won the Milan-San Remo at his 1st attempt. Then again cycling is not a main stream sport so he was never going to win. Bit like saying give the SPOTY to Hamilton. He won a couple races....... |
I have to say I was just as staggered as Giggs was himself when the winner was announced.
I've heard of the achievements of most of the others in the running, albeit in passing, whereas I had no idea Giggs had a good/interesting/record breaking/whatever season. Whilst it is remarkable what he's achieved (which I only know from this thread), I'm still non-plussed as to why he's won. Anyone who doesn't follow football probably hasn't heard of him this year (let alone other years). I doubt many people in the country haven't heard what Button achieved this year. I knew there were a ridiculous number of Man Utd fans outside of Manchester, but this win for Giggs seems to confirm half the country support Man Utd. So, Mr Football Mad Southerner, what first attracted you to the richest and most successful football club in history... :D |
Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 9101242)
Another sport which nobody takes seriously due to the participants drug use.
Never been drug use, match fixing, fighting on and off the park, driving bans for drunk driving/killing people, and generally being overpaid illiterate wankers then?? LOL |
Originally Posted by Devildog
(Post 9101361)
And football is squeaky clean, of course.
Never been drug use, match fixing, fighting on and off the park, driving bans for drunk driving/killing people, and generally being overpaid illiterate wankers then?? LOL |
Originally Posted by stilover
(Post 9101283)
Maybe if he'd won the Tour de France, and not just 6 stages.
Bit like saying give the SPOTY to Hamilton. He won a couple races....... To win 6 stages in 1 race is a great feat, ranks among the best performances ever. |
Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 9101207)
In other words it's boring...
I will always watch it since the whole race is of interest in every respect including team strategies etc. The only thing that worries me next year is the ban on refuelling. I think that could remove a lot of interest from the racing. Les |
Originally Posted by Simon C
(Post 9101101)
Up to a point I'd say with the first 3, Schumaker and Senna were very good drivers, not sure about Hamilton.
I'd still liked to have have seen what they could do with a good but slightly slower car. |
Originally Posted by stilover
(Post 9100052)
Vrawn had to design a car, make the car, design new parts all year, manufacture those parts, test those parts, run and maintain a car that was far more reliable that a lot of others (barring the odd loose spring here or there) But.............
Your taking the mick now. They didn't design the car - Honda did that They didn't make the car - Honda did that too funny enough So they designed and made some new parts - wow indeed |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 9103156)
Your taking the mick now.
They didn't design the car - Honda did that They didn't make the car - Honda did that too funny enough So they designed and made some new parts - wow indeed And yes, Wow. They beat the main contenders out of nowhere. It was meant to be BMW's year. Last year they were the best of the rest. Spent Millions on Fluid Dynamic software that was meant to design the fastest car on the grid. But they got it wrong. And for their mistakes, the BMW board pulled the plug. |
Originally Posted by stilover
(Post 9103174)
All but in a name. The same people whether call Honda or Brawn designed, manufactured, tested, and raced that car.
And yes, Wow. They beat the main contenders out of nowhere. It was meant to be BMW's year. Last year they were the best of the rest. Spent Millions on Fluid Dynamic software that was meant to design the fastest car on the grid. But they got it wrong. And for their mistakes, the BMW board pulled the plug. Yes - the same people did all the work, I'll accept that. However all this was done over a period of years FFS with millions spent in the process Then honda sell up to Brawn Infact thinking about it wasn't Honda formed from BAR? If so then Honda didn't design the car either :lol1: I'll look that up later on. So Brawn managed to make a few bits and pieces and get a remarkable jump on the rest of the field initially |
Originally Posted by urban
(Post 9103274)
Yes - the same people did all the work, I'll accept that.
However all this was done over a period of years FFS with millions spent in the process Then honda sell up to Brawn Infact thinking about it wasn't Honda formed from BAR? If so then Honda didn't design the car either :lol1: I'll look that up later on. So Brawn managed to make a few bits and pieces and get a remarkable jump on the rest of the field initially Guess not. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by stilover
(Post 9103810)
My god, you really are stupid.
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Originally Posted by Turbo2
(Post 9101275)
:cuckoo: Does anyone remember who won it last year then? Chris Hoy.
Hardly Mr Personality is he? Come to think of it nor is Giggs. I just checked his current world ranking as a player. He stands at #171. Last time I looked, Button was at #1. Sure Giggs had a reasonable season (and used to own a 22B), but if that wasn't an extra "life-time achievement" award, then I'm Tiger Woods. :D |
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