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I'll never understand why Ribbery went to Bayern but he is never the player Ronaldo is and not a fit replacement. I thought Kaka was the only replacement Utd would settle for?!
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The Ribery thing is bull****. Denied by United today as well. Silly season starting up.
Men v's boys tonight. Win it for Fletch! ;) Oh and well done Park :o |
Park:luxhello::luxhello::luxhello::luxhello:
I thought Ronnie was great tonight and the last few games looked happier. Maybe he's staying after all????? |
I hope so. He's pretty much the complete attacking player.
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quality game tonight :luxhello::luxhello::luxhello:
i am gonna have a nice week in rome this time instead of a rainy night in moscow :luxhello: i cant believe i am gonna see my 2nd european cup final in a year :eek: |
Fooking hell.......over in 11 minutes lol
i thought we started so so well but i feel so sorry for gibbs and almunia, our best 2 players last week. almunia kept us in it again(like we ever were) You deserved it on last weeks performance. unfortunate first 2 goals but the 3rd i had to applaud. well done lads the better team won. I really enjoyed seeing park and fletcher on the pitch, thinking we could get something from them but they were superb. unlucky fletcher, it looked a foul but we had the luck of 20 replys im routing for Barca tomoz as i think they would be a better finalist congrats again :thumb: |
Dave, good job your not a scouser, they would have been kicking off lol
Anyway, you have to look at it this way, your in the top 4 teams in europe to make it this far in the competition :D so not bad going for Arsenal I dare say :D Tony:) |
Originally Posted by **************
(Post 8685536)
I'll never understand why Ribbery went to Bayern but he is never the player Ronaldo is and not a fit replacement. I thought Kaka was the only replacement Utd would settle for?!
And as much as I dislike Ronaldo, I know he's good for the team and his understanding with Rooney has always been good. Berbatov will not start the Final, yes the deft touches and layoffs are nice, but he needs to show more aggression and tempo. By all mean sell Berbatov Keep Tevez and Buy Kaka. I thought Anderson had another impressive game, funny SAF saying he'll be the new Scholes, yes great midfielder just lacks the goals Scholes brought the team. |
Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 8685564)
The Ribery thing is bull****. Denied by United today as well. Silly season starting up.
Men v's boys tonight. Win it for Fletch! ;) Oh and well done Park :o |
Did they show Beckham on UK TV in the stands (sorry poncey box ;)) grinning and rubbing his hands with glee when the 3rd went in.
Good old Becks a red through and through :thumb: |
Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
(Post 8685904)
Can you contest Red cards as you can in the EPL ??
BBC SPORT | Football | Europe | Ferguson seeking Fletcher U-turn |
Good grief, I was settling down for a beer fest and a cliff hanger. I was almost kinda disappionted we scored twice so early. :lol1:
How did Arsenal get this far with so little to offer in the match. Thats a genuine question, not arrogance :wonder: Thing is, will Cesc put up with it for much longer? Big clubs surely gonna be sniffing in the summer. |
Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
(Post 8686083)
How did Arsenal get this far with so little to offer in the match. Thats a genuine question, not arrogance :wonder:
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Originally Posted by Funkii Munkii
(Post 8685914)
Did they show Beckham on UK TV in the stands (sorry poncey box ;)) grinning and rubbing his hands with glee when the 3rd went in.
Good old Becks a red through and through :thumb: http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...ksstillred.jpg and the bit you mention... http://i40.tinypic.com/29uxe6g.gif |
Great to see Becks like that. I bet he'd give all his money back to still be playing for us:notworthy
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 8686146)
Simon |
Originally Posted by scoobygav555
(Post 8686169)
Great to see Becks like that. I bet he'd give all his money back to still be playing for us:notworthy
You know he would :) Great picture of Giggsy Gary Nev and Becks I'd still have Becks now, squad player mind ;) |
Viva Ronaldo indeed!
Messi will be hard pressed to top this Ronaldo supershow By Martin Samuel Beat that, Leo. It is going to take some display if Lionel Messi is to revise opinions at Stamford Bridge tonight. It is going to take some performance to convince those attending Manchester United’s annihilation of Arsenal that they were not already witness to the greatest player in the world. Memories of Cristiano Ronaldo’s display at the Emirates Stadium will be hard to erase. He was masterful, compelling, unstoppable, a tour de force as a striker, operating with the wit of a winger. To think there were once doubts about his ability to influence the biggest games. He scored twice here, an outrageous free-kick from 41 yards (to improve on his goal in open play from 39 yards in Porto), and a second which involved a precise back-heel, a lung-bursting dash from end to end, and a perfect finish. It may have been the goal of the season; indeed he could yet have that competition to himself. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...33_468x320.jpg Crowning glory: Ronaldo brilliantly clips home United's third goal at the end of a scintillating move There is a stellar cast supposedly lined up to replace Ronaldo in the event of his summer departure to Real Madrid, but the contenders all have one problem: they are not him. They cannot lead the line like a centre forward, they cannot score 42 goals in one season, they are unlikely to finish top of the Premier League goalscoring table, where Ronaldo presently resides. Nor will they bury stunning free-kicks from distance like he does, either: because few players can; not even David Beckham, who was among the awed United followers looking on in wonderment as Ronaldo ripped Arsenal apart. Franck Ribery, the France winger tipped to leave Bayern Munich for a figure in the region of ?50million, is among those linked to United, as is Kaka of AC Milan, and agents will be working like stink to facilitate this summer money-go-round. Ribery and Kaka are certainly great players. They are not, however, the greatest player and neither is Messi, yet, because until he turns in a defining performance to propel his team to the greatest occasion in club football, the title will reside with the man in the No 7 shirt for United, who returns a for a consecutive Champions League final in Rome. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...10_224x350.jpg http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...85_224x350.jpg Pretenders to the crown: Messi and Ribery There are pretenders and challengers to Ronaldo, but none hit the heights with such consistency. Messi was shut out of Barcelona’s game with Chelsea in a manner that would not happen to Ronaldo. Not now. Those days, those disappointments, are long past. Ribery’s name is advanced as Ronaldo’s replacement this summer and this is harmless fun, all part of football’s delicious cycle of speculation, dream teams played out in the head and over pints in the pub; but back in the real world, why would United even consider such a transaction, why him and why now? One look at sorry Real Madrid will reveal why they fantasise over signing Ronaldo, but one look at Ronaldo will reveal why, unless Sir Alex Ferguson indulges in football’s greatest act of munificence, they have not a snowflake in hell’s chance of acquiring him. This has not been Ronaldo’s best season, but only by comparison to the incredible standards he set a year ago. Any other player who had pulled his team through in the title race — Federico Macheda drew the headlines, but without Ronaldo’s goals against Aston Villa, his efforts would have been redundant — and scored vital goals in the important rounds of the Champions League against Inter Milan, Porto and now Arsenal would be feted. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...98_468x286.jpg Strike a pose: Ronaldo was in imperious at the Emirates Ronaldo’s reward all season has been to have his commitment questioned and his attitude criticised. Some of this he has brought on himself, some stems from the very English sport of finding fault. Ronaldo does not like being kicked. (Who does?) Ronaldo is temperamental. (Name a truly great player who was not). The gravest calumny, the biggest deceit, is that we would not miss him if he was gone. To be replaced by what, exactly? Another Joey Barton? Another grotesque, another thug, another honest toiler. The problem with football is that there are not enough players like Ronaldo.There are not enough players who can be scintillating out wide one moment, terrifying through the middle the next, who can stand over a free-kick or a loose ball 40 yards for goal and have observers consider it a goalscoring opportunity, who can do what Ronaldo did to Arsenal last night and ruin them with a strike as audacious as the free-kick scored by Paul Gascoigne for Tottenham Hotspur in the 1991 FA Cup semi-final. So extravagant is his long range shooting these days that anything from the 30-yard mark might be considered a tap-in. Compared to the velocity of Ronaldo’s shot, Manuel Almunia’s dive appeared to take place in slow motion, like a stunt in a trailer for a James Bond film. By the time he stretched his arms out to grasp at empty air, the ball was already rebounding off the back of the net towards him. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/...36_468x311.jpg Slow motion: Almunia was helpless to prevent the opener One fact is inescapable. United are returning for a second consecutive Champions League final and not since Valencia in 2000 and 2001 has this happened (although the club lost both times). If United are victorious, they will be the first team to win consecutive finals in the Champions League era. And this will have been achieved with Ronaldo, not Ribery or Kaka, or even Messi. So take a good look, missus, and Viva Ronaldo, because there may never be another. |
What a fantastic report, and so true:)
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Do you think the writer was masturbating as he wrote that? :D
"So extravagant is his long range shooting these days that anything from the 30-yard mark might be considered a tap-in." Yeah right. :cuckoo: "If United are victorious, they will be the first team to win consecutive finals in the Champions League era. And this will have been achieved with Ronaldo, not Ribery or Kaka, or even Messi." Really? You mean they don't play for Utd? What insightful journalism. I'm shocked. :o Great performance by Ronaldo last night, and by Utd as a team. They looked the complete outfit last night. Tough luck on Fletcher as well. Poor decision by the ref IMHO. |
That was a bit a cringe-worthy read even for a utd fan. We will see whether he goes in the summer but I still confident he wont and I will be happy if he stays (unlike some utd supporters on here). Just needs to stay on his feet more and sort his attitude out to ref decisions that dont go his way (he could take a note out of Rooneys book there in terms of improvement).
Feel bad for Fletcher but cant be too harsh on the ref in the heat of the moment. But he should have the balls to fess up and admit he got it wrong. Not sure who I want to win tonight. Chelsea will be harder to break down even though weve beat them 3-0 already this season (albeit it at home) and Barca youve always got chance to score against. But I guess if we cant win it Id prefer an english team to win. Simon |
I want Barca in the final against Utd purely for the reason that would be the 2 best teams in Europe against each other which is how it should be. I think it would be a cracking match as the 2 squads on show would be amazing. Rooney Ronaldo Tevez and Berbatov against Eto Henry Messi Krkic :cool:
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Originally Posted by **************
(Post 8686136)
Erm, because we were better than all the other teams we played perhaps? :rolleyes: I'd say that comment was complete arrogance. We got to the last 4 in Europe and came up against a team considered 1 of the the 2 top teams in Europe, the other being Barcelona. We weren't good enough to beat Utd just like we weren't good enough to beat Barcelona in the final we lost.
Just seems to get to the semi's isn't a stroll in the park, so could you have played that same way all throught the group/knock-out stages? No is your answer. That was the question I was asking. Would it be fair to say Arsenal had a torrid game and Utd a good one? Or is that arrogant too :Whatever_ |
Head says would have a better chance against Chelsea as more the devil you know but heart says it would be fantastic to win it by beating Barca if they could. The two best players on the planet going head to head.
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Originally Posted by STi wanna Subaru
(Post 8686690)
Head says would have a better chance against Chelsea as more the devil you know but heart says it would be fantastic to win it by beating Barca if they could. The two best players on the planet going head to head.
Barca moaned about Chelsea being physical, Barca weren't far behind them. Barca are good and if they're the 2nd best team in Europe they should wwin tonight but I'm not too sure they will, maybe 1-1. |
Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
(Post 8686630)
Well my apologies if it came across as such.
Just seems to get to the semi's isn't a stroll in the park, so could you have played that same way all throught the group/knock-out stages? No is your answer. That was the question I was asking. Would it be fair to say Arsenal had a torrid game and Utd a good one? Or is that arrogant too :Whatever_ No. I would say that all the teams Arsenal played to get to the semis were not a patch on Utd which is why we beat those teams and didn't beat Utd. We didn't have a torrid game in either of the legs, we were completely out played in both legs against Utd and that is why I am so frustrated with Wenger. We used to have a squad that could go toe to toe with Utd with two teams on the pitch equally matched. Now Arsenals squad is just not on the same level as Utd's and not competitive over a whole season and to me it is Wenger's fault for not replacing the likes of Vieira, Henry and Gilberto with equally experienced and gifted players. |
Originally Posted by **************
(Post 8686793)
No. I would say that all the teams Arsenal played to get to the semis were not a patch on Utd which is why we beat those teams and didn't beat Utd. We didn't have a torrid game in either of the legs, we were completely out played in both legs against Utd and that is why I am so frustrated with Wenger. We used to have a squad that could go toe to toe with Utd with two teams on the pitch equally matched. Now Arsenals squad is just not on the same level as Utd's and not competitive over a whole season and to me it is Wenger's fault for not replacing the likes of Vieira, Henry and Gilberto with equally experienced and gifted players.
I fail to see how Man Utd totally outplayed you in comparison to the other teams you have played. It's almost as if you're saying Utd are head and shoulders above any of your other opposition this season :wonder: |
cob it's quite easy to follow what he's saying. Not sure where the confusion lies.
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
(Post 8686844)
It's almost as if you're saying Utd are head and shoulders above any of your other opposition this season :wonder:
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
(Post 8686844)
I fail to see how Man Utd totally outplayed you in comparison to the other teams you have played. It's almost as if you're saying Utd are head and shoulders above any of your other opposition this season :wonder:
If you didnt get it this time from B2Z, YES YOU WERE HEAD AND SHOULDERS ABOVE THE REST :p You know that already. i think you secretly needed to here it from a gooner to make yourself feel better. We had 7 minutes against you in 2 legs where we threatened(first 7 mins of ydays match) then a mistake from a young player who imo has done an awesome job recently, then every ones heads dropped. then it was the Ronaldo show. We beat Roma and Villereal. Not in same class as united, end of really :thumb: |
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